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[ifander]

MadCat221 wrote...

Matthew Fox in late stages of talks to be in a Mass Effect movie.  It's rumored on more than just IMDB. ...

I'm pretty sure that's an april fools joke, look at the date.

 

Modifié par ifander, 11 août 2010 - 11:18 .

[GothamLord]

I'm also still baffled that people are trying to cast for characters from Mass Effect 2. The movie rights were sold based on the first game, and the first game alone. Its not going to be the First Contact War, its not going to me The Rachni Wars, Its not going to be The Skyllian Blitz or the Akuza Incident. The rights sold are for Mass Effect (1).

[i love lamp x3]

great choices imo.. though you might've been going for martin sheen not charlie sheen.

that said... making an ME movie is a transparent cash-in that devalues the fans and devalues what makes games like mass effect and dragon age important and in a realm of art that lies beyond film. that is all

Modifié par i love lamp x3, 11 août 2010 - 11:24 .

[BlackyBlack]

MadCat221 wrote...

BlackyBlack wrote...

MadCat221 wrote...

Matthew Fox is already cast to be Shepard.

Wrong, there's no mentions if Shepard will even be in the movie, even the script isn't complete. IMDB can be edited by ANYONE, just like Wikipedia. It 's just a rumor 'cos they look alike

Matthew Fox in late stages of talks to be in a Mass Effect movie.  It's rumored on more than just IMDB.  Plus, tell me you don't get a bit of a Sheploo vibe from that picture there.  Furthermore, IMDB is not a Wiki, it's meant for professional use as well.  That's the purpose of IMDBPro.  Signs are strong but not definitive that he'll be Shepard.  He already was a Shepard...

lol, look at the date: April 1 2010, meaning:
1. April fools joke
2. The article is from before the ME film was announced

Modifié par BlackyBlack, 12 août 2010 - 12:09 .

[ashz22]

well the reason for charlie was I think his dad is a little old for the role and charlie looks alot like his father and I'm not saying I love the idea of a movie but if there is one this is the cast I would like to see except for Charlie Sheen thats was just a toss up it was just an idea good or bad.

Modifié par ashz22, 12 août 2010 - 12:30 .

[SirVincealot]

GothamLord wrote...
You do not cast a movie without a finalized script.

Hmm. I have to correct this assumption about the filmmaking process.

It is routine in Hollywood to hammer deals with stars, directors and producers attached on nothing but an outline, and - if the property is "hot" enough i.e. superheroes, popular books, hit toys - on even less than that.

It is one of the reasons you see so many sequels, prequels, remakes, reboots and tie-ins: it's easier to finance a projects with nothing but a title and a few "attached" stars than it is to raise capital for the greatest script ever written. (see "the black list")

In fact, any script that could possibly exist for MASS EFFECT at this point is strictly marketing "bait" for the media. It will be extensively rewritten - probably by a music video director with more ego than writing talent - or thrown out altogether with the usual nugget about how "good" it was but "director X has such a great, personal vision!"

[thetruefreemo]

Why can't people realize that Shepard CAN NOT be in the movie?!!!

[ashz22]

actually it was announced Bioware will have a tremendous say in the movie and the Bioware writers will be helping and they will be using Biowares outlines and concept art.

Shepard can be in a movie after all there is a generic version of the story.

Modifié par ashz22, 12 août 2010 - 02:48 .

[snfonseka]

ashz22 wrote...

actually it was announced Bioware will have a tremendous say in the movie and the Bioware writers will be helping and they will be using Biowares outlines and concept art.

Shepard can be in a movie after all there is a generic version of the story.

I think Shepard will be in the movie.

[thetruefreemo]

ashz22 wrote...

actually it was announced Bioware will have a tremendous say in the movie and the Bioware writers will be helping and they will be using Biowares outlines and concept art.

Shepard can be in a movie after all there is a generic version of the story.

The Generic version won't satisfy enough people. They go with that and more than 50% of the fan base will see the movie as a big middle finger to the face. If they cast Shepard as a man, then fem-shep people will hate it (Same if they cast Shep as a woman). If they write Shepard as a paragon, Renegade fans will get bored (and viceversa). The best they can do is maybe mention Shepard in dialogue. I think it's in the industries' best interest to not cast a  Main character that can't satisfy the Mass Effect fan base. 

[snfonseka]

thetruefreemo wrote...

ashz22 wrote...

actually it was announced Bioware will have a tremendous say in the movie and the Bioware writers will be helping and they will be using Biowares outlines and concept art.

Shepard can be in a movie after all there is a generic version of the story.

The Generic version won't satisfy enough people. They go with that and more than 50% of the fan base will see the movie as a big middle finger to the face. If they cast Shepard as a man, then fem-shep people will hate it (Same if they cast Shep as a woman). If they write Shepard as a paragon, Renegade fans will get bored (and viceversa). The best they can do is maybe mention Shepard in dialogue. I think it's in the industries' best interest to not cast a  Main character that can't satisfy the Mass Effect fan base. 

Eventhough your theory is somewhat logical, I don't belive that the most of the fans will validate the movie based on what decition based on the Paragon/ Renegade action of the Shepard. Instead what I belive that they will enjoy the movie as a entire package. Besides this is not the first time where a movie represent something different from the original script / story.

If we apply your logic for comic books then all the Iron Man, Batman fans should reject the latest movies because the movies represent a different version of the stories that are not in the comics. So what I think that we will have the same concept in here. Where the movie will be different from each others playthroughs but we will enjoy the movie (if it turns into a good one). The movies always have use the core story of a book, game (take Lara Croft for example) or comic and represent that in their own way (keep in mind the time limitation also).

[nightfall2063]

It will be interesting to see the direction they take.



Mass Effect felt like a movie to me, especially the ending. It had an epic feel.



If they do decide to go ahead with a film based off the game, I wonder if they will have the quads to just to a translation from the actual game.



Mathew Fox will need to bulk up a bit to play Shepard. Not that I am saying he is doing it.

[snfonseka]

GothamLord wrote...

I'm also still baffled that people are trying to cast for characters from Mass Effect 2. The movie rights were sold based on the first game, and the first game alone. Its not going to be the First Contact War, its not going to me The Rachni Wars, Its not going to be The Skyllian Blitz or the Akuza Incident. The rights sold are for Mass Effect (1).

Is this comment based on facts? or speculations?

[Minister of Sound]

Archon-god wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

RussellKP wrote...

Martin Sheen plays TIM in the game and he had made the request that the character look like him. So I don't see Charlie replacing dad any time soon.

The only problem is Martin is too old as TIM.

That's what makeup,and masks are for

<cough> Emilio Estevez <cough>

[PsyrenY]

MadCat221 wrote...

Little twig Olivia Wilde as a meaty space marine gal?

Not seeing it.

I dunno how she looks body-wise, but it really doesn't matter. Will Smith was a twig before Ali, Catherine Zeta-Jones was a twig before Monster - it's not hard for actors/actresses to gain mass if they need to, the face is most important.

[i love lamp x3]

Optimystic_X wrote...

MadCat221 wrote...

Little twig Olivia Wilde as a meaty space marine gal?

Not seeing it.

I dunno how she looks body-wise, but it really doesn't matter. Will Smith was a twig before Ali, Catherine Zeta-Jones was a twig before Monster - it's not hard for actors/actresses to gain mass if they need to, the face is most important.

ashley williams is voiced by a black lady. just sayin.but i remain in a strongly disapproving stance in regard to a movie based on the games. 

[Tazzmission]

thetruefreemo wrote...

Why can't people realize that Shepard CAN NOT be in the movie?!!!

he could be in a movie. start the opening scene of him loosing people on the planet ( sorry cant spell it out) than show him get picked up by udina and anderson... induct him into the alliance military,

[thetruefreemo]

snfonseka wrote...

thetruefreemo wrote...

ashz22 wrote...

actually it was announced Bioware will have a tremendous say in the movie and the Bioware writers will be helping and they will be using Biowares outlines and concept art.

Shepard can be in a movie after all there is a generic version of the story.

The Generic version won't satisfy enough people. They go with that and more than 50% of the fan base will see the movie as a big middle finger to the face. If they cast Shepard as a man, then fem-shep people will hate it (Same if they cast Shep as a woman). If they write Shepard as a paragon, Renegade fans will get bored (and viceversa). The best they can do is maybe mention Shepard in dialogue. I think it's in the industries' best interest to not cast a  Main character that can't satisfy the Mass Effect fan base. 

Eventhough your theory is somewhat logical, I don't belive that the most of the fans will validate the movie based on what decition based on the Paragon/ Renegade action of the Shepard. Instead what I belive that they will enjoy the movie as a entire package. Besides this is not the first time where a movie represent something different from the original script / story.

If we apply your logic for comic books then all the Iron Man, Batman fans should reject the latest movies because the movies represent a different version of the stories that are not in the comics. So what I think that we will have the same concept in here. Where the movie will be different from each others playthroughs but we will enjoy the movie (if it turns into a good one). The movies always have use the core story of a book, game (take Lara Croft for example) or comic and represent that in their own way (keep in mind the time limitation also).

I like that Comparison. The only problem i see with that is that when someone buys a comic book they don't get to chose the heroes Gender, Facial Appearance, Powers, and morality choices. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Mass Effect movie. I just think it would be impossible to write a story for such a variable character. The Mass Effect Novels do not feature Shepard at all but they still immerse fans in the story and bring new fans to the franchise. I think the only way a Mass Effect movie could work would be if they wrote the movie like the books. 

[ashz22]

a good example for a generic storyline would be KOTOR to KOTOR2 no matter what choices you made in the first one didn't transfer over to the second because the story had already been told in comics and such. So with Mass Effect they have a default story and character if you hadn't played the first ME they made your choice for you. one other way it could work if they had us the fans envolved and vote on what we want to see for ex. fem shep or male shep. now back on topic I think this was about my cast if they decide to make a ME movie.

[GothamLord]

snfonseka wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

I'm also still baffled that people are trying to cast for characters from Mass Effect 2. The movie rights were sold based on the first game, and the first game alone. Its not going to be the First Contact War, its not going to me The Rachni Wars, Its not going to be The Skyllian Blitz or the Akuza Incident. The rights sold are for Mass Effect (1).

Is this comment based on facts? or speculations?

Fact. Read the original press releases when they announced the movie.

Modifié par GothamLord, 12 août 2010 - 10:30 .

[snfonseka]

thetruefreemo wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

thetruefreemo wrote...

ashz22 wrote...

actually it was announced Bioware will have a tremendous say in the movie and the Bioware writers will be helping and they will be using Biowares outlines and concept art.

Shepard can be in a movie after all there is a generic version of the story.

The Generic version won't satisfy enough people. They go with that and more than 50% of the fan base will see the movie as a big middle finger to the face. If they cast Shepard as a man, then fem-shep people will hate it (Same if they cast Shep as a woman). If they write Shepard as a paragon, Renegade fans will get bored (and viceversa). The best they can do is maybe mention Shepard in dialogue. I think it's in the industries' best interest to not cast a  Main character that can't satisfy the Mass Effect fan base. 

Eventhough your theory is somewhat logical, I don't belive that the most of the fans will validate the movie based on what decition based on the Paragon/ Renegade action of the Shepard. Instead what I belive that they will enjoy the movie as a entire package. Besides this is not the first time where a movie represent something different from the original script / story.

If we apply your logic for comic books then all the Iron Man, Batman fans should reject the latest movies because the movies represent a different version of the stories that are not in the comics. So what I think that we will have the same concept in here. Where the movie will be different from each others playthroughs but we will enjoy the movie (if it turns into a good one). The movies always have use the core story of a book, game (take Lara Croft for example) or comic and represent that in their own way (keep in mind the time limitation also).

I like that Comparison. The only problem i see with that is that when someone buys a comic book they don't get to chose the heroes Gender, Facial Appearance, Powers, and morality choices. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Mass Effect movie. I just think it would be impossible to write a story for such a variable character. The Mass Effect Novels do not feature Shepard at all but they still immerse fans in the story and bring new fans to the franchise. I think the only way a Mass Effect movie could work would be if they wrote the movie like the books. 

They will consider a generelize character, according to my opinion. I also belive that they won't go for Pragon / Renegade extreams, instead they will (what I think) go for a gray moral choises. If they go for a movie without the Shepard, they need to establish a new hero for the movie. I am not saying that it is impossible, it can be done... but it will be an additional work for them. So rather than go for a new hero and a story, it will be easy to modify the exsisting one to suit into a movie. This is my opinion.

Lets think about that in this way, we all have our own Sheperd, choises and story. But we all know that we cannot say our character / story is the actual version of the story because we know there are totaly different paths that can be taken. Because of that gamers expectation of seen the identical thing in the movie is much less. But, on the other hand, comics have well established character and stories where their fans knows what is the story very well. Even those fans have not rejected the movies because they didn't follow the same story in the comic.

So if the fans with clear idea of what the story is, accepted the changes in movies (Batman, Ironman, X-men); I believe there is a less chance of rejection from the ME fans where the story is not established. Also in some cases, comic fans tend to treat the movie story as alternative universe story. We may be able to apply the same concept here. Actually for me I have a my own "cannon" Shepard and some Shepards in alternative universes (since I have multiple playthroughs).

Modifié par snfonseka, 13 août 2010 - 03:49 .

[snfonseka]

GothamLord wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

I'm also still baffled that people are trying to cast for characters from Mass Effect 2. The movie rights were sold based on the first game, and the first game alone. Its not going to be the First Contact War, its not going to me The Rachni Wars, Its not going to be The Skyllian Blitz or the Akuza Incident. The rights sold are for Mass Effect (1).

Is this comment based on facts? or speculations?

Fact. Read the original press releases when they announced the movie.

So by metioning "Mass Effect" they are refering to ME1.... What I think is that they are refering to the fanchize not ME1.

[GothamLord]

So the whole "planned adaption of the video game Mass Effect" statement is just random nonsensical gibberish?

I will stand partly corrected in my statement. The direct quote from Legendary Pictures on re-review compared to the one from BioWare themselves does say they picked up franchise rights to "adapt the videogame series". Again though its to adapt the series, not play around with other random non-game related events that are only briefly mentioned. The movies still have to follow the games storylines, they are not allowing free-reign in the ME Universe for movies. This of course taking the press release on a word for word basis for legality, without actually having the option to look at the contact itself that was written.

Modifié par GothamLord, 13 août 2010 - 11:38 .

[snfonseka]

GothamLord wrote...

So the whole "planned adaption of the video game Mass Effect" statement is just random nonsensical gibberish?

I will stand partly corrected in my statement. The direct quote from Legendary Pictures on re-review compared to the one from BioWare themselves does say they picked up franchise rights to "adapt the videogame series". Again though its to adapt the series, not play around with other random non-game related events that are only briefly mentioned. The movies still have to follow the games storylines, they are not allowing free-reign in the ME Universe for movies. This of course taking the press release on a word for word basis for legality, without actually having the option to look at the contact itself that was written.

Hmmm......... may be your logic is correct! but not 100% sure though...

Modifié par snfonseka, 13 août 2010 - 02:07 .

[GothamLord]

Obviously none of us can be 100% sure on it as none of us work for Legendary Pictures or BioWare's legal teams. Usually though press releases on things like this need to be pretty direct, otherwise the lawyers would have a field day. May we get a flashback scene from one of the historical events mentioned? Possible, hell probably very likely. Will the entire movie be based on it though? Eh... 99.9 % unlikely. We'll get a five minute flashback scene of Shepard on Akuza fighting off the Maw, or guns blazing with the Skyllian Blitz . Maybe Anderson can give us a hazy memory of the First Contact War. We're not gonna get a two hour movie dedicated to it though.

We'll get a movie that boils down to "Shepard and crew fight to save the galaxy from Geth lead by Saren. Who in turn is secretly controlled by a evil A.I. Space Lobster called Sovereign determine to wipe out all intelligent life in the universe for smoothies" How they fill in the blanks for 2 hours will determine if it crashes and burns.

Modifié par GothamLord, 13 août 2010 - 09:05 .