I am a huge old school rpg and D&D fan, but I think its just time to do away with exclusive lock picking for rogues. Anyone can bash the chest open, or if worried about the contents, take a chisel and a hammer to the hinges, whatever. There is nothing cool about finding a locked pantry, and no one in the group being smart enough to use a pry bar to open it.
If rogues need a niche, they can keep the find/remove traps ability, get some cool dialog abilities, and of course their combat abilities, debuffs, crowd control, damage, etc.
And yeh, no minigames please
Will lockpicking be a minigame?
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 01:30
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Kileyan wrote...
I am a huge old school rpg and D&D fan, but I think its just time to do away with exclusive lock picking for rogues. Anyone can bash the chest open, or if worried about the contents, take a chisel and a hammer to the hinges, whatever. There is nothing cool about finding a locked pantry, and no one in the group being smart enough to use a pry bar to open it.
If rogues need a niche, they can keep the find/remove traps ability, get some cool dialog abilities, and of course their combat abilities, debuffs, crowd control, damage, etc.
And yeh, no minigames please
Preach it brotha!
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:18
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Yeah I'd prefer not to be forced to play minigames. That's one thing I did not really enjoy about the ME games personally.
Ugh, the hacking, the hacking... Bypass isn't quite as awful, but hacking makes me want to slaughter things. Someone should have their toes held to a white-hot flame for that abomination of a minigame.
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:22
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id kinda liked it as it was, actually. gave me a reason to put a rogue in my party...
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:28
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I was kidding about the whole 'dungeon scanning' thing, really. I don't want to give the wrong person any ideas.
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:29
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If they're going to make it rogue-exclusive, give us more than two Rogue NPCs with accents that get grating after awhile. Also, don't make it so one starts with nothing in opening locks so even though you have to wait until partway through the game to get a new Rogue, but you have to wait until nearly halfway through until you can actually have him reliably open locks.
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:32
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Yeah, that really was a pain, most of the time I would just clear the dungeon then come back later with Lelianna in tow just to open everything.DaringMoosejaw wrote...
If they're going to make it rogue-exclusive, give us more than two Rogue NPCs with accents that get grating after awhile. Also, don't make it so one starts with nothing in opening locks so even though you have to wait until partway through the game to get a new Rogue, but you have to wait until nearly halfway through until you can actually have him reliably open locks.
But it was a pain, hopefully there will be interesting rogues that I will actually want in my group permenantly *cough* Nathaniel *cough*
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:34
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Maybe they'll include an exciting and obligatory 'dungeon scanning' mini game.
This will be how you will get your resources to buy things. You will use a dog and a shovel to gather them.
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:43
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First time through ME2 i hacked and bypassed everything....but every other playthroughs since i have not even bother hacking or bypassing anything part from a few plot progressing doors or where i know theres something cool behind it (like say the workers in recruit the assassin)
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:43
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if locked chests contain useless junk like in DAO instead of unique items that would make me care to use a rogue in my party, I don't care if there's a minigame or not, since I left many chests closed knowing nothing of value was left behind 99% of the time
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:50
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First time through ME2 i hacked and bypassed everything....but every other playthroughs since i have not even bother hacking or bypassing anything part from a few plot progressing doors or where i know theres something cool behind it (like say the workers in recruit the assassin)
This in no way validates the pointless and time consuming minigames in ME2. No offense intended.
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:51
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rexil wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Maybe they'll include an exciting and obligatory 'dungeon scanning' mini game.
This will be how you will get your resources to buy things. You will use a dog and a shovel to gather them.
and condoms?
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Posté 12 août 2010 - 11:56
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slimgrin wrote...
Alexia89 wrote...
First time through ME2 i hacked and bypassed everything....but every other playthroughs since i have not even bother hacking or bypassing anything part from a few plot progressing doors or where i know theres something cool behind it (like say the workers in recruit the assassin)
This in no way validates the pointless and time consuming minigames in ME2. No offense intended.
Better then simon says in ME
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 02:13
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Simon says was actually kinda cool.
Modifié par slimgrin, 13 août 2010 - 07:29 .
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 04:20
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slimgrin wrote...
Alexia89 wrote...
First time through ME2 i hacked and bypassed everything....but every other playthroughs since i have not even bother hacking or bypassing anything part from a few plot progressing doors or where i know theres something cool behind it (like say the workers in recruit the assassin)
This in no way validates the pointless and time consuming minigames in ME2. No offense intended.
You missed the point of the post, wasnt trying to validate it, pretty much saying i did it first tiem then never touched it...therefore would rarther it be gone. I play games a few times and doing them annoying minigames made me stop opening things <_<
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 05:05
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Alexia89 wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Alexia89 wrote...
First time through ME2 i hacked and bypassed everything....but every other playthroughs since i have not even bother hacking or bypassing anything part from a few plot progressing doors or where i know theres something cool behind it (like say the workers in recruit the assassin)
This in no way validates the pointless and time consuming minigames in ME2. No offense intended.
You missed the point of the post, wasnt trying to validate it, pretty much saying i did it first tiem then never touched it...therefore would rarther it be gone. I play games a few times and doing them annoying minigames made me stop opening things <_<
Ahh...my bad.
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 06:02
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No lock picking mini game. Have only Rogue Hawke and Rogue companions with the ability to lockpick. That being said the Rogue class is well balanced because of the skill point inflation. With poison/trap/survival maxed out your cc abilities can rival a weak mage. Requires some thinking on your part especially when utilizing trap making. Keep Rogues the same for DA2.
Speak for yourself. Console gamer =/= idiot. Sometimes.
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id kinda liked it as it was, actually. gave me a reason to put a rogue in my party...
Indeed.
However, the intended audience (console) do not appreciate that, and would prefer not to be forced to take a rogue just to open locks. This is why electronic/hacking skills were removed in Mass Effect 2 and replaced by a minigame anyone can do.
Speak for yourself. Console gamer =/= idiot. Sometimes.
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 06:04
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 06:09
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You really won't like the press release on the subtitle for DA 2 then...
Dragon Age 2: Lockpicking
The monster killing and roleplaying are the minigames, Hawke is an apprentice locksmith who fixes locks all day long, he even lives by a loch while brushing his/her long curly locks of hair. He works all day long at them and all that work brings a steady hunger for....locks and bagels.
Dragon Age 2: Lockpicking
The monster killing and roleplaying are the minigames, Hawke is an apprentice locksmith who fixes locks all day long, he even lives by a loch while brushing his/her long curly locks of hair. He works all day long at them and all that work brings a steady hunger for....locks and bagels.
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 06:44
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I don't mind a lockpicking mini-game. Preferably i'd like the Morrowind system of Lockpicking. With a side of Lock Bashing in case i'm not a rogue.
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If this image doesn't instill dread in everyone here...
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Posté 13 août 2010 - 07:07
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slimgrin wrote...
If this image doesn't instill dread in everyone here...
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#48
Posté 13 août 2010 - 07:07
Ryllen Laerth Kriel
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I actually like how Bethesda handled lockpicking in Fallout 3 though, it was pretty painless.
#49
Posté 13 août 2010 - 07:12
RogueGeth
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@Oblivion Lockpick pic.: EVIL! Get it away from me.
Anyways I want Rogues to get something for themselves that give them somthing to make up for the loss of lockpicking if we allow everyone to lockpick. Altough traps and stuff like that might work. But when I tried to do traps in the first one, all of them sucked.
Anyways I want Rogues to get something for themselves that give them somthing to make up for the loss of lockpicking if we allow everyone to lockpick. Altough traps and stuff like that might work. But when I tried to do traps in the first one, all of them sucked.
Modifié par RogueGeth, 13 août 2010 - 07:13 .
#50
Posté 13 août 2010 - 07:51
Delta_Pizza
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Aarrgh! No Oblivion style lockpicking, please don't do it BioWare.
