Making that content - the DLC that's freely available to BioWare customers - also available to resale customers for a fee (as Shale was with DAO - Shale came free with the game, but if you bought a resale DAO you had to pay $15 for Shale) was, I think, a terrific business idea.David Gaider wrote...
We were talking about content that promotes first-sale being a good idea or not. Not paid-for DLC.
Ashr4m wrote...
I wonder how you can damge the market, its not like you could implement DRM in paper ^^
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Making that content - the DLC that's freely available to BioWare customers - also available to resale customers for a fee (as Shale was with DAO - Shale came free with the game, but if you bought a resale DAO you had to pay $15 for Shale) was, I think, a terrific business idea.David Gaider wrote...
We were talking about content that promotes first-sale being a good idea or not. Not paid-for DLC.
I applaud BioWare and EA for that one. Extemely clever idea.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 12 août 2010 - 05:10 .
I didn't like it too much. It made it clear Shale wouldn't be pivotal to the plot in any way, and made him feel less vital of a character.Dave of Canada wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Making that content - the DLC that's freely available to BioWare customers - also available to resale customers for a fee (as Shale was with DAO - Shale came free with the game, but if you bought a resale DAO you had to pay $15 for Shale) was, I think, a terrific business idea.David Gaider wrote...
We were talking about content that promotes first-sale being a good idea or not. Not paid-for DLC.
I applaud BioWare and EA for that one. Extemely clever idea.
It'S EA's "Project Ten Dollar". Most EA games tend to be doing this now and it's leading to a lot of people saying it's the worst thing ever and that EA are stupid. I think they'd prefer restrictive DRM over it.
Edit: I actually like the idea.
NovenseiWarden wrote...
I didn't like it too much. It made it clear Shale wouldn't be pivotal to the plot in any way, and made him feel less vital of a character.
This problem would go away if you would stop metagaming.NovenseiWarden wrote...
I didn't like it too much. It made it clear Shale wouldn't be pivotal to the plot in any way, and made him feel less vital of a character.
To people who haven't bought the DLC it isn't obvious. To people who don't complete the quest line it isn't obvious.the_one_54321 wrote...
Are you suggesting that it isn't blatantly obvious? o.O I thought I was responding to a typo.
Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 12 août 2010 - 05:28 .
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
To people who haven't bought the DLC it isn't obvious. To people who don't complete the quest line it isn't obvious.the_one_54321 wrote...
Are you suggesting that it isn't blatantly obvious? o.O I thought I was responding to a typo.
David Gaider wrote...
Making money is clearly evil?Bryy_Miller wrote...
What's so bad about them wanting to combat re-sales?
Either that or Rubbish Hero has a daily bitterness quota to achieve. I can't decide.
If that actually spoiled something for anyone, I'm sorry. But I don't see how it would. In my mind it's the same as saying Wyne is a she or Leliana is a she.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
To people who haven't bought the DLC it isn't obvious. To people who don't complete the quest line it isn't obvious.the_one_54321 wrote...
Are you suggesting that it isn't blatantly obvious? o.O I thought I was responding to a typo.
It's a pretty big reveal. Even Shale thinks so. Why you would deny other players that discovery I don't understand.
Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 12 août 2010 - 05:33 .
Mecha Tengu wrote...
Ohohohoh, just because activision treats its customers like crap, is not an excuse for EA to do the same.
Bobby Kotick will always be Bobby Kotick, but EA is not Activision.
Fine your a company, make money, but Release Day DLC is d.ick move.
you mean to tell me, that while the game has been completed and is in the 2 month process of shipping, you THEN decide to work on new DLC? Why couldnt it have been in the original game? When I look back at all the Dragon Age DLCs, most are recycled environments plastered with some new voice acting, doesn't look very hard to make at all.
Or just got lazy with new content? and somehow it magically got delayed for the main release, but finished at the convenience of selling content electronically.
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the_one_54321 wrote...
If that actually spoiled something for anyone, I'm sorry. But I don't see how it would. In my mind it's the same as saying Wyne is a she or Leliana is a she.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
To people who haven't bought the DLC it isn't obvious. To people who don't complete the quest line it isn't obvious.the_one_54321 wrote...
Are you suggesting that it isn't blatantly obvious? o.O I thought I was responding to a typo.
It's a pretty big reveal. Even Shale thinks so. Why you would deny other players that discovery I don't understand.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Mecha Tengu wrote...
Ohohohoh, just because activision treats its customers like crap, is not an excuse for EA to do the same.
Bobby Kotick will always be Bobby Kotick, but EA is not Activision.
Fine your a company, make money, but Release Day DLC is d.ick move.
you mean to tell me, that while the game has been completed and is in the 2 month process of shipping, you THEN decide to work on new DLC? Why couldnt it have been in the original game? When I look back at all the Dragon Age DLCs, most are recycled environments plastered with some new voice acting, doesn't look very hard to make at all.
Or just got lazy with new content? and somehow it magically got delayed for the main release, but finished at the convenience of selling content electronically.
DLC is made from seperate funding of the original game, if they had time to create a DLC that was seperate from the main game with thousands of dollars they didn't have provided to them from EA .. you want them to charge it for free?
The moment she started talking more or less. It was her voice. I was at least suspicious of it. The first things she said after I gave her a new crystal sealed it. From that point on there was no question that she was female in some way.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
So something that was news to Shale is something you determined the very moment you met the giant person made of stone?
How could you tell? I certainly couldn't tell.
Mecha Tengu wrote...
as I said most of this DLC is quite crappy. Just recycled maps with new lines of dialogue. Do you honestly need that much funding for this?
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 12 août 2010 - 05:38 .
the_one_54321 wrote...
If that actually spoiled something for anyone, I'm sorry. But I don't see how it would. In my mind it's the same as saying Wyne is a she or Leliana is a she.
Neither of those was anything close to conclusive evidence for me.the_one_54321 wrote...
The moment she started talking more or less. It was her voice. I was at least suspicious of it. The first things she said after I gave her a new crystal sealed it. From that point on there was no question that she was female in some way.
Details in the post above. But yeah, as I said, it didn't feel much different that saying that about Leliana, Wyne or Morrigan. Maybe my head is strange, but that's not something I can help.AlanC9 wrote...
You can't be serious. Leliana and Wnyye look like females, and know they're females. Shale doesn't.the_one_54321 wrote...
If that actually spoiled something for anyone, I'm sorry. But I don't see how it would. In my mind it's the same as saying Wyne is a she or Leliana is a she.
Ok, so that's you. For me it was "oh, female. Noted."Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Neither of those was anything close to conclusive evidence for me.the_one_54321 wrote...
The moment she started talking more or less. It was her voice. I was at least suspicious of it. The first things she said after I gave her a new crystal sealed it. From that point on there was no question that she was female in some way.
The voice sounded genderless, to me. And the crystal comment is something anyone could say (I make jokes about retaining my "girlish figure" - that doesn't make me a girl).
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