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#101
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*thump!*

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Daur wrote...

Thicos wrote...

Daur wrote...

MysteriXOX wrote...

I didn't like Oghren when I first met him, but after a while he grew on me. Now I have to say he is one of my favourites with his drunken comments and his dry wit. I would definitely like to see him again.

Exactly, if only people wpuld give him a chance they would be able to see the design of greatness and awesomeness that he possesses


Then all  characters deserve another chance, because all characters have a fan base.

Yes but they could all possibly be dead, except Oghren Posted Image

Just look at the squad continuation from ME1 to ME2, only the characters that had 0 chance of dying showed up as companions. (Liara was kept out as she is being saved for ME3, implying that since everyone can die in ME2 they will not be returning)


this I did not know!Posted Image  so what happens *SPOILER!!!  to Oghren when left at a un-upgraded Vigil's Keep when Warden Commander helps Amaranthine?

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this I did not know!Posted Image  so what happens *SPOILER!!!  to Oghren when left at a un-upgraded Vigil's Keep when Warden Commander helps Amaranthine?


He dies and Felsi cries to your Warden, the baby in her arms.

He gets knocked unconcious while leading an attack and wakes up to find himself praised as a hero.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...
this I did not know!Posted Image  so what happens *SPOILER!!!  to Oghren when left at a un-upgraded Vigil's Keep when Warden Commander helps Amaranthine?


He dies and Felsi cries to your Warden, the baby in her arms.

He gets knocked unconcious while leading an attack and wakes up to find himself praised as a hero.


ah so he can die.  I knew about the knocked unconcious ending.  but being able to die changes things a bit methinks...

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ah so he can die.  I knew about the knocked unconcious ending.  but being able to die changes things a bit methinks...


Here's all the Awakening epilogues.

dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Epilogue_(Awakening)

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 août 2010 - 05:29 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

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ah so he can die.  I knew about the knocked unconcious ending.  but being able to die changes things a bit methinks...


Here's all the Awakening epilogues.

dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Epilogue_(Awakening)


interesting...thanks!

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I wonder if Oghren would get to grease the bronto with femHawke?

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Mr.Cousland wrote...

I wonder if Oghren would get to grease the bronto with femHawke?


Hawke: Damn Oghren.. you sure are rough..

Oghren: Heh heh heh, yeah. You love it, don't you?

Hawke: No, the poor thing is probably in a lot of pain.

Oghren: Hey, don't start calling my bronto poor!

Hawke: Why are we greasing it again?

Oghren: ... it's too big to fit between those cliffs.

Hawke: Oh yeah.

*Oghren and Hawke continue applying grease to a bronto*

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 août 2010 - 05:42 .


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ah so he can die.  I knew about the knocked unconcious ending.  but being able to die changes things a bit methinks...


I did mention this twice in this thread already.

*sigh*

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Mr.Cousland wrote...

I wonder if Oghren would get to grease the bronto with femHawke?


Hawke: Damn Oghren.. you sure are rough..

Oghren: Heh heh heh, yeah. You love it, don't you?

Hawke: No, the poor thing is probably in a lot of pain.

Oghren: Hey, don't start calling my bronto poor!

Hawke: Why are we greasing it again?

Oghren: ... it's too big to fit between those cliffs.

Hawke: Oh yeah.

*Oghren and Hawke continue applying grease to a bronto*

Dammit Dave! Posted Image

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Well I mean considering the pike-twirling and weapon-polishing convos it'd end up being something like that.

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No.

I don't want Oghren anywhere near my gaming experience. Not in DA2, not in Awakening, not even in Origins. Just.. No. That's all.

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Cynical Being wrote...

No.
I don't want Oghren anywhere near my gaming experience. Not in DA2, not in Awakening, not even in Origins. Just.. No. That's all.

But I do


That's all.

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Cynical Being wrote...

No.
I don't want Oghren anywhere near my gaming experience. Not in DA2, not in Awakening, not even in Origins. Just.. No. That's all.




Thunder-humper.

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I find it odd I seem to be the only one hoping for a companion character from a previous DA title to show up again as a companion in DA2 :/



I thought there would be more people wanting certain characters to make appearances.



Nathaniel is being thought over by the community, but I think it's largely in part to the heavy hinting that he pretty much is already in.

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Daur wrote...

I find it odd I seem to be the only one hoping for a companion character from a previous DA title to show up again as a companion in DA2 :/

I thought there would be more people wanting certain characters to make appearances.

Nathaniel is being thought over by the community, but I think it's largely in part to the heavy hinting that he pretty much is already in.


As much as I loved my companions in Origins and Awakening, I want my Hawke to make her/his own friends. I want to get to know and love new characters. When I do see old friends in 2 I'm going to be sad that I can't treat them like old friends. That's why I personally am not pushing for returning companions.

As far as Oghren goes, I think he's had his time in the spotlight.

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Daur wrote...

I find it odd I seem to be the only one hoping for a companion character from a previous DA title to show up again as a companion in DA2 :/

I thought there would be more people wanting certain characters to make appearances.

Nathaniel is being thought over by the community, but I think it's largely in part to the heavy hinting that he pretty much is already in.


I hate repeated characters because you've already gotten to know them, their loves and fears and such. When they return, while it's interesting seeing them in another person's view it just ends up being same old.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Daur wrote...

I find it odd I seem to be the only one hoping for a companion character from a previous DA title to show up again as a companion in DA2 :/

I thought there would be more people wanting certain characters to make appearances.

Nathaniel is being thought over by the community, but I think it's largely in part to the heavy hinting that he pretty much is already in.


I hate repeated characters because you've already gotten to know them, their loves and fears and such. When they return, while it's interesting seeing them in another person's view it just ends up being same old.

Perhaps we just share differing opinions concerning this but I think inclusion of at least one or two characters from one game to the next makes them feel more connected in my mind and allows for further development and growth of said characters.

Mainly I just want a token gimli dwarf Posted Image

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No more Oghren please! he's so one dimensional

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I liked Oghren, particularly in DAO, when you'd go into Orzammar with him and Wynne, and they'd discuss brewing together. Those were, by far, the most fascinating in-character conversations to listen to. Leliana and Sten's conversations were a bit "meh" by comparison, and as much as I like Alastair, I got really annoyed by his conversations with Morrigan, because they were just kinda the same thing, over and over and over again...

Oghren feels, at first, like a very one-dimensional fellow, but the more you talk to him, the closer of a buddy he becomes, and the more you realize he's probably the deepest character out there. Zevran was too interested getting in your pants, Sten was too humorless, and Alastair had bigger things, like being a King, to think about. Morrigan was a fairly typical "mysterious/sexy" character, Leliana was Joan of Arc as an ex-spy, and Wynne was just some old lady who was cool with everything. Oh, and the dog was a dog. Oghren was the only one with any significant level of complexity.

I felt like this was expounded on in Awakening, and even laughed a few times at his antics, though occasionally he felt a bit over-the-top. Branka, his alcoholism, as well as his reaction to Felsi and running away to join the Wardens is really indicative of just how broken of a person he is. He's someone who clearly has a lot of problems, and he hasn't really worked through them yet; the body humor is his way of compensating. Bringing him back in DA2 (the game spans, what, a decade? It's not inconceivable that he could show up) and helping him overcome his personal problems would be a great way to end his story.

As it is, it's just "he's a really screwed up guy who needs help." I'd like to see him get the help he deserves.

Modifié par Birdieboink, 13 août 2010 - 10:55 .


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I wouldn't mind Oghren turning up as even a cameo, he and Varric would make a good double act.

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What Dave of Canada and Anarya said. I mean damn, why does Hawke have to interact with the same people when he/she is a totally different character?

I know we love the characters from Origins but forcing them in places where they don't belong story wise seems like a disservice to Hawke's life. Seeing them maybe once or twice in the story is fine with me but that should be the end of it.

Modifié par Kerridan Kaiba, 13 août 2010 - 01:32 .


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Riona45 wrote...

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ah so he can die.  I knew about the knocked unconcious ending.  but being able to die changes things a bit methinks...


I did mention this twice in this thread already.

*sigh*


i kno but someone in another post said he couldnt.  but someone gave me some facts to back it up.  Posted Image

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oghren is a great character



all the children don't like him because hes a "short ugly dwarf" that ruins their A-team

and all the women find him useless because hes a "short ugly dwarf" and isnt cutzesdssd like Alistair or Zev



but man he kicks ass in battle, and hes very funny

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Birdieboink wrote...

I liked Oghren, particularly in DAO, when you'd go into Orzammar with him and Wynne, and they'd discuss brewing together. Those were, by far, the most fascinating in-character conversations to listen to. Leliana and Sten's conversations were a bit "meh" by comparison, and as much as I like Alastair, I got really annoyed by his conversations with Morrigan, because they were just kinda the same thing, over and over and over again...

Oghren feels, at first, like a very one-dimensional fellow, but the more you talk to him, the closer of a buddy he becomes, and the more you realize he's probably the deepest character out there. Zevran was too interested getting in your pants, Sten was too humorless, and Alastair had bigger things, like being a King, to think about. Morrigan was a fairly typical "mysterious/sexy" character, Leliana was Joan of Arc as an ex-spy, and Wynne was just some old lady who was cool with everything. Oh, and the dog was a dog. Oghren was the only one with any significant level of complexity.

I felt like this was expounded on in Awakening, and even laughed a few times at his antics, though occasionally he felt a bit over-the-top. Branka, his alcoholism, as well as his reaction to Felsi and running away to join the Wardens is really indicative of just how broken of a person he is. He's someone who clearly has a lot of problems, and he hasn't really worked through them yet; the body humor is his way of compensating. Bringing him back in DA2 (the game spans, what, a decade? It's not inconceivable that he could show up) and helping him overcome his personal problems would be a great way to end his story.

As it is, it's just "he's a really screwed up guy who needs help." I'd like to see him get the help he deserves.

QFT, most people just write him off and don't give him a chance which is a damn shame Posted Image