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[Estelindis]

I had decided to play my City Elf rogue as cautious towards humans but not actively hostile. I reckoned she would judge each person on their individual merits, and that she would be relatively well-adjusted and not bitter re. the situation in the alienage. As far as she was concerned, I thought, good and bad people exist everywhere, no matter what race you are.

The wedding really changed all that and made her a lot more cynical, but not because of what Vaughan did - more because of Duncan not doing more to help. She knows that men like Vaughan are scum, but Duncan seemed like a good person, and the fact that even he wouldn't put himself on the line made quite an impression on her.  She realises he didn't do nothing, but she felt he should have done so much more that she ended up strongly disliking him, and I have the idea that their journey south to Ostagar was extremely awkward.  When encountering Alistair's obvious hero-worship of Duncan, she refrained from being obnoxiously disagreeable, simply not commenting.

In particular, her dislike of Duncan impacted on what being a Warden meant to her, because apparently all other duties to protect those who needed help had to be sacrificed for the sake of stopping the Blight. My City Elf thought that was a criminal attitude. She didn't accept Warden neutrality at all, and when she and Alistair turned out to be Ferelden's last Wardens she decided that she was going to do things her way even if that was a million miles away from Duncan's way. She wasn't ever going to turn her back on those who needed help, even if it put Ferelden's last Wardens in danger.

Of course, part of what enabled her to have this attitude was not knowing why Grey Wardens are needed to halt a Blight. Had she known, she might have taken a little more care with their lives.

Another perhaps unconventional attitude she had was that she felt sorry for Goldanna. She thought Alistair's expectations of his sister were naive and that he came across poorly. That said, as soon as Goldanna scorned fifteen sovereigns as not enough money, my city elf did a 180. She had never seen a gold sovereign in her life in the alienage, I reckoned, and was disgusted with the casual rejection of fifteen of them as a trifling sum. Though she did appreciate on a mercenary level that Goldanna might have been bluffing to get better money, it did reharden her attitude towards the woman.

Modifié par Estelindis, 02 septembre 2010 - 02:55 .

[Sarah1281]

Another perhaps unconventional attitude she had was that she felt sorry for Goldanna. She thought Alistair's expectations of his sister were naive and that he came across poorly. That said, as soon as Goldanna scorned fifteen sovereigns as not enough money, my city elf did a 180. She had never seen a gold sovereign in her life in the alienage, I reckoned, and was disgusted with the casual rejection of fifteen of them as a trifling sum. Though she did appreciate on a mercenary level that Goldanna might have been bluffing to get better money, it did reharden her attitude towards the woman.

Oh, I hear you. I always felt sorry for Goldanna as well but for the CE especially, the 'what, only 15 sovereign? Cheapskate' was kind of a WTF moment. Consider in the CE orign your mother's friends manage to scrimp and save 10 silver for your new life. Everyone acts so amazed and have never seen that much money before. Ten silver will enable what's-her-name to buy a house and stay in Denerim. Goldanna looks down on 150X that amount? I guess maybe she expected that to be the only time she saw Alistair and figured that a royal brother should probably be able to afford more even if it was more money than she'd ever had before?

[Estelindis]

Sarah1281 wrote...
Oh, I hear you. I always felt sorry for Goldanna as well but for the CE especially, the 'what, only 15 sovereign? Cheapskate' was kind of a WTF moment. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one.  And yes, it was the amazing-in-the-origin-story amount of ten silvers that really motivated my attitude.  But it also must be said that, on my first playthrough, we happened to have 15 sovereigns plus a handful of silver at the time when we visited Goldanna - so it was nearly all of our money that she regarded as so pitiful!  And those funds had been accumulated finding treasures in ancient ruins and such - who knew when such things might be found again?  (Okay: so, out of character, we know we'll always find better loot.  But my city elf doesn't know that!)

Modifié par Estelindis, 02 septembre 2010 - 03:08 .

[CalJones]

15 sovs is rather a lot, early in the game, so she's always s*** out of luck.



I suppose my current character is a little different than most women's female Couslands. As the OP mentioned, a lot of women players enjoy playing a Cousland girl who ends up falling for Alistair and becoming his queen. Not so me. Whilst my Cousland had some sympathy for his loss of Duncan, she was disgusted that he was so wrapped up in the death of a man he'd known six months that he managed to forget her whole family had been massacred not once but twice in the same conversation. She thought of him as self-centred and weak, because although she'd lost everyone and didn't even want to be in the wardens (she was conscripted), she managed to pull it together enough to lead whereas he crumbled.

She had a bit more sympathy for him after finally meeting Eamon and realising what a bastard he was, so she was determined not to let Eamon put a puppet on the throne and backed Anora instead. She had enough of a heart to ask for mercy for Alistair, however, and he was exiled.

Her dream is to set Anora up with Fergus instead, though such a thing is unlikely to happen outside of fanfics and imagination. In the meantime, she is chancellor and Commander of the Grey. What happens to her will depend on the Morrigan DLC. She did not romance anyone.

[Heimdall]

My male elven mage did like being a "good" Mage, but he was entirely disinterested in authority and rarely took things too seriously. Also a bit gullible, he put Bhelen on the throne without knowing he was so dishonest. He was annoyed by Alistair putting him in control of their merry band but rolled with it until the end where he put Alistair and Anora on the throne and promptly skipped the country with his favorite Orlesian bard and mabari hound... Not promptly enough apparently as the Wardens still managed to track him down and guilt him into going to Amaranthine

I'm starting a play through with a mage who is a little bit of a sociopath who gets along with no one.  That is, until he finds Morrigan who is the only person anything like himself he's ever met.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 02 septembre 2010 - 11:32 .

[Aeowyn]

I kind of created a slightly different origin for my female elf mage, only because I have never ever managed to actually find sympathy or care for Jowan to feel "oh noes he lied to me/I betrayed my friend".

Due to this different story she not only hates the Chantry and their minions for imprisoning her because she was born with a certain gift, but she has no real respect for Irving either and sees him as a weakling for not standing up to the mages more.

She rarely goes "mohahahaha Im a mage fear my power" unless the person in question pisses her off and looks down on her not because she's a mage but because she's an elf. She defiled the Ashes, because in her eyes even if Andraste freed the elves, she made life for mages ****.



Was suspicious towards Alistair at first but once she got to know him more she realised that his life had not been all that different from hers and when Eamon wanted to put Alistiar on the throne she subsequently told him to f off and put Anora there; because in her mind Anora is a far more fitting queen and Eamon's traditionalism is bs.

[Myusha]

I had a Human Noble who tried to make all the wrong choices intentionally, because he thought if he ruined the country, Howe would lose power. However Karma bit my Warden in the ass later. Heh.

[Estelindis]

CalJones wrote...
I suppose my current character is a little different than most women's female Couslands.

Your Cousland sounds *awesome* - what a strong and independent woman!

[Dean_the_Young]

I'm starting to love my new 'Mog the Gnome' dwarf commoner character. Granted, I'm likely going to dabble in some exploits to jack up his cunning to however much is needed for every dialogue option (what is that, by the way?), but I love the idea.



People have an idea about what casteless should be like: rough, tough, jaded, resentful even. And they have an idea about what rogues should be like: suave, smooth, debonairs with genius hands. Also, a tendency towards bows and arrows or dual weilding.



Not a claymore-wielding geek-alchemist so lyrium-addled that he has to be reminded to put his pants on in the morning by his sister. True story, that.



It's rather funny: I originally envisioned him as 'what sort of Dwarf Commoner would be able to survive his origin without Duncan?', and the answer that occurred to me was 'one who could break out of the Carta with a cup of gruel, a length of string, and a paperclip.' It just snowballed from there.



The boy is a genius... after a fashion. He may well have become a Paragon in his own right, the way he was mastering herbalism and poisons and trap making with the best of them, and all with just the resources he could get from Dust Town and what help his loving sister could give to him.



Fighting directly is an afterthought for him, and a straight up fight without liberal usage of stealth and some sort of trap/poison/grenade is a bad one. About his only consistent aspiration is to advance his knowledge and ability to make new things.



But on the other hand, his cap is a bit to soft, if you know what I mean. He's completely oblivious about seeing through deceit and manipulations (though a factual error is something he would recognize right away). He has no malice, but no natural skills at working with other people as well. He has no grand motivational leadership abilities (character goal: not a single point into persuasion: any persuades have to be justified by cunning), and so many of the 'big' decisions are determined by such relatively minor/inconsequential biased things. For the Dwarven King, he just listens to his sister. For the Werewolf Delimma, he'll kill Witherfang because the Dalish are his best source of elf/deathroots. Genocide for crafting materials, really. And he'll save the mages for two reasons: he's fascinated by the fade and magical lyrium usage... and because he's a little sweet on Dagna, who he's seen from a distance studying books he had intended to steal and read himself.



But it's all like that. He's probably one of the least-suited characters for saving Ferelden, given his emotional involvement in the Blight is 'isn't that the thing which makes it harder for me to do my crafting experiments?'



Far from a power-gamer character, but very, very fun.

[CalJones]

He sounds like a dwarf MacGyver. Excellent.

[KnightofPhoenix]

That's a really interesting character Dean.

I don't know whether my characters fit a certain archetype or not. Maybe they partially do at least. I think it's safe to say that they are not too "unorthodox".

My canon PC, Arcturus Cousland, is based mostly on myself and I don't know how I would qualify myself. Dain Aeducan basically represents the cutthroat politics of his home, so I guess that's not unconventional (though I did enjoy his rise as chancellor of Ferelden). Alim Surana is a naive idealistic mage, who ends up wanting to end his own life because it proved too much for him. Salazar Amell is an unpredicatble, almost bipolar hedonist blood mage libertarian, capable of acts of kindness and sadism, his only goal being his own freedom and pleasure. Aurora Cousland ends up abandonned by Alistair, and the once slightly naive and sweet Aurora becomes more ruthless and enclosed on herself. A mage I have in mind is Baras Amell, another blood mage and shapeshifter, who has an insatiable lust for knowledge and magical prowess, while also being welll versed in economics, history and politics. He has designes to liberate all mages and create another Tevinter Imperium and to that end, he makes himself chancellor to Anora and hopes to use his blood magic to control her (he could not afford having a templar as king).

Of course sumarised like this, I guess all characters fit a certain archetype. It's really in the little details of their personalities and interactions that set them apart and make them, imo, unique.

[Giggles_Manically]

My wierdest charachter is Bob a DC. (It was an unimaginative day)



Pretty much he centers around "OH WHAT DOES THIS DO!".

He is a totally naive person who cant see past lies, and doesent really like to fight. He just carries around a really big two handed weapon (for a Dwarf) and tries to be scary. Strangely enough for him it worked a lot. The second he got made a Paragon he made a stumbling speech in the Assembly (which Bhelen wrote) and then that night he ran off to Orlais with Leliana, Zevran and Dog.

[Estelindis]

Agreed re. Dean's dwarven MacGyver. That is, hands down, the most unconventional DA character I've ever heard of. Magnificent!

[Dean_the_Young]

Not even my culturally assimilated!Dalish, who believes humans are the way of the future and that the Dalish clinging to inferior old gods is really, really stupid? I've seen many Dalish who hate humans/are suspicious/cautious, but I've never seen one who looks to history and sees the Dalish as trying to dive back into the rubbige bin of history. ('The humans have the stronger gods,' says he. 'They develop technology and cities that surpass our small clans.' 'The very nature of our intercourse proves them to be the race of the future.'

[Giggles_Manically]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Not even my culturally assimilated!Dalish, who believes humans are the way of the future and that the Dalish clinging to inferior old gods is really, really stupid? I've seen many Dalish who hate humans/are suspicious/cautious, but I've never seen one who looks to history and sees the Dalish as trying to dive back into the rubbige bin of history. ('The humans have the stronger gods,' says he. 'They develop technology and cities that surpass our small clans.' 'The very nature of our intercourse proves them to be the race of the future.'

He dosent wander around saying "Resistance is futile" by any chance?

[Dean_the_Young]

Not really. He just thinks that Alienages are, overall, a step up in civilization from what the Dalish have.

He (she, actually) really doesn't see what people think the alure of being a dalish is. If someone were to ask him what being a Dalish was like, it would be akin to 'it's freezing in the winter, blazing in the summer, no roofs in the rain, covered in insects and bugs, and a whole bunch of walking contstantly to get to your next campsite, the next day at which you'll do it all over again.'

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 02 septembre 2010 - 02:20 .

[maxernst]

Estelindis wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Oh, I hear you. I always felt sorry for Goldanna as well but for the CE especially, the 'what, only 15 sovereign? Cheapskate' was kind of a WTF moment. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one.  And yes, it was the amazing-in-the-origin-story amount of ten silvers that really motivated my attitude.  But it also must be said that, on my first playthrough, we happened to have 15 sovereigns plus a handful of silver at the time when we visited Goldanna - so it was nearly all of our money that she regarded as so pitiful!  And those funds had been accumulated finding treasures in ancient ruins and such - who knew when such things might be found again?  (Okay: so, out of character, we know we'll always find better loot.  But my city elf doesn't know that!)

Yeah, I felt that way too.  One of things I liked about DA:O was that it got away from D&D economics where people were flinging around thousands of gold pieces--15 gold coins is a huge amount of money in the DA:O economy, far more than most people will see in their lives.  Sure, fancy magical weapons and armor cost more but in the real world, plate mail was incredibly expensive.