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I feel Mass Effect 2 SUCKS, here is why


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The confliction between Content rating and difficulty of the game.
-obviously this game is rated for those 18+, you're reading this cuz you played it, you know what I'm talking about. But since you played the game you know how simple it is, simple enough for 12 years olds. Clearly they made the game with a wide range of age group in mind to maximize profits, which is why I hate it.
-12 year olds shouldn't be playing a game with the material this game contains, but they can surely play through it because its way too [sammich] simple.

Also, its called RPG for a reason. If you are like me:ph34r:, you like RPGs because of the skill required to play, engaging storyline, and depth of gameplay that all RPGs contain.
Mass Effect 2 should be called Really Boring Arcade Shooter, because that what it is.
-What the [lunch] is with this new level system? It just sums up that last bit of gameply and awards you money, really takes away from any the RPG part of the game.
-Don't get me wrong, the story was engaging, but I stumbled through it pissed off at all the things I liked about the first game that they replaced. namely, the ammo system.
-instead of worrying about my guns overheating in combat because they never run out of ammo, I got to run around these pre-determined combat zones looking for these universal heat cartridges that magically work with any weapon no matter what size, make, or model. Because for some stupid reason I can't just [gravy] buy enough to last me a level. No, they're just conveinently placed around the narrow levels that are predetermined for you. (very arcade like). Unlike the free world combat from the first game that made it an decent RPG title.

Even worse is the false advertising of a galaxy you can openly explore.
-they trick those simple minds into this by letting you control a little starship around the galaxy map instead of a cursor, its they same damn thing. They even make you worry about fuel as you travel in this little arcade galaxy and how far you are from refueling stations, its lame and unneeded.
-just like the first game each solar system has a random assortment of planets and moons, but you are always only allowed to land on one, maybe two of these. The rest are uninhabitalbe, completely understable- but whats not understandable is the one [bacon] planet you can explore out of every system is just couple of walkways, shops, maybe a saloon or whatever, and then the combat level you're only allowed to visit once. these are inhabited by a couple of NPCs to talk to about meaningless side-quests that are just retracing your steps and talking to other NPCs and making decisions so they can justify the good and evil meter. It is very LINEAR i.e.(narrow, straight line, does not allow for creative or inventive game play)

The Worst part is weapon upgrading, no more of that needless weapon customization that allowed for inventive play from the first game, (that last bit was sarcasm, It means I meant the opposite of what I just said) I find I need to label and even define my sarcasm for those simpler minded kids on here.
-to customize my weapons I must now scan all those uninhabitable planets in a very tedious and boring manner for 4 different resources that are scattered about the planets surface. How you ask do I do this? with a magical cursor ofcorse. Once I agonizing collect these resources I can then just upgrade all the weapons of a cetain sort. -No reason or explanation though, it just costs 150000 Tridium or whatever to make my sniper rifles do extra damage. Not like I had to vist shops to buy bigger barrels or assign them better scopes because I sold those resources for a profit. (more sarcasm)
-you can probably correct me on this one, but I was told that I can't even buy all the upgrades for my weapons because the game does not allow me to make that much money or something like that. if this is true its an even bigger flaw than its given credit.

So in conclusion, I fought with myself through the campaign in a very bad mood and kept my save in hopes the 3rd game dosn't [breakfast] up as badly as this one.

Go ahead and trash my creditbility for spelling and gramatical errors but I dont care enough to spell check. and that stuff really dosn't matter anyway, you read it and understood it just fine enough to correct it.

:ph34r:[No swearing, please.]:ph34r:

Modifié par Dissappointed Fan 117, 12 août 2010 - 08:40 .


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he made the account just to post this and get banned

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Dissappointed Fan 117 wrote...

Clearly they made the game with a wide range of age group in mind to maximize profits, which is why I hate it.


Oh I know. How dare they try to make money! What were they thinking?!

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everyone has a right to his/her own opinion but i disagree with you

anyway dont feed the troll

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Maybe you didn't notice, but it's an RPG shooter. Maybe that's why you're so baffled about, you know, the shooting things, and the linearity. If you want a full fledged rpg, play a different game.

If you didn't like it, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. It was too toned down in my opinion and has flaws, but I don't have any sympathy for you. You have not suggested anything constructive, only throw a childish tantrum and preemptively insult everyone who dissagrees with you. Just because it didn't fufill your clearly high standards, well, too damn bad.

Modifié par The Interloper, 12 août 2010 - 08:25 .


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[quote]Dissappointed Fan 117 wrote...

The confliction between Content rating and difficulty of the game.
-obviously this game is rated for those 18+, you're reading this cuz you played it, you know what I'm talking about. But since you played the game you know how simple it is, simple enough for 12 years olds. Clearly they made the game with a wide range of age group in mind to maximize profits, which is why I hate it.
-12 year olds shouldn't be playing a game with the material this game contains, but they can surely play through it because its way too f**king simple.[/quote]
Erm, I don't think Bioware made the game catering to twelve year olds. ("Hey guyz lez make teh gam for teh twelve years olds!!") They wanted to appeal to all skill levels. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer, some people just want to enjoy a good story. Thats why there is something called Insanity. Plus, how was ME any more complicated? A stupid inventory system? 

[quote]Also, its called RPG for a reason. If you are like me:ph34r:, you like RPGs because of the skill required to play, engaging storyline, and depth of gameplay that all RPGs contain.
Mass Effect 2 should be called Really Boring Arcade Shooter, because that what it is.[/quote] 

Well, since when was tough gameplay a sign of a good RPG? JRPG's are extremely easy to get into. Once you've mastered one, you have basically mastered a majority of them. As for Wester RPG's, please, they aren't any more difficult. Fallout? Borderlands? Fable? Even Mass Effect! They all have lower difficulty settings focused on allowing players of all skill levels to jump in. Try another argument. Mass Effect is not a rails shooter. Go try Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, Dead Space on rails, or House of the Dead. Those are arcade shooters. 

[quote]-What the F**k is with this new level system? It just sums up that last bit of gameply and awards you money, really takes away from any the RPG part of the game. [/quote]

I agree on the leveling aspect, isn't the best. However, it is in no way really DETRACTING from the overall experience. 


[quote]-Don't get me wrong, the story was engaging, but I stumbled through it pissed off at all the things I liked about the first game that they replaced. namely, the ammo system.
-instead of worrying about my guns overheating in combat because they never run out of ammo, I got to run around these pre-determined combat zones looking for these universal heat cartridges that magically work with any weapon no matter what size, make, or model. Because for some stupid reason I can't just F**king buy enough to last me a level. No, they're just conveinently placed around the narrow levels that are predetermined for you. (very arcade like). Unlike the free world combat from the first game that made it an decent RPG title.[/quote]

Narrow levels that are predetermined for you? Hmm.... sounds like Mass Effect 1! Except instead of a straight-ish path, they gave you a square to run around in. As for the ammo system, please. Overheating wasn't any revolutionary game changing mechanic, I'm glad its gone. 

[quote]Even worse is the false advertising of a galaxy you can openly explore.
-they trick those simple minds into this by letting you control a little starship around the galaxy map instead of a cursor, its they same damn thing. They even make you worry about fuel as you travel in this little arcade galaxy and how far you are from refueling stations, its lame and unneeded.
-just like the first game each solar system has a random assortment of planets and moons, but you are always only allowed to land on one, maybe two of these. The rest are uninhabitalbe, completely understable- but whats not understandable is the one f**king planet you can explore out of every system is just couple of walkways, shops, maybe a saloon or whatever, and then the combat level you're only allowed to visit once. these are inhabited by a couple of NPCs to talk to about meaningless side-quests that are just retracing your steps and talking to other NPCs and making decisions so they can justify the good and evil meter. It is very LINEAR i.e.(narrow, straight line, does not allow for creative or inventive game play) [/quote]
Am I missing something here? I think you meant to title the thread "Mass Effect SUCKS, here is why".

[quote]The Worst part is weapon upgrading, no more of that needless weapon customization that allowed for inventive play from the first game, (that last bit was sarcasm, It means I meant the opposite of what I just said) I find I need to label and even define my sarcasm for those simpler minded kids on here.
-to customize my weapons I must now scan all those uninhabitable planets in a very tedious and boring manner for 4 different resources that are scattered about the planets surface. How you ask do I do this? with a magical cursor ofcorse. Once I agonizing collect these resources I can then just upgrade all the weapons of a cetain sort. -No reason or explanation though, it just costs 150000 Tridium or whatever to make my sniper rifles do extra damage. Not like I had to vist shops to buy bigger barrels or assign them better scopes because I sold those resources for a profit. (more sarcasm)
-you can probably correct me on this one, but I was told that I can't even buy all the upgrades for my weapons because the game does not allow me to make that much money or something like that. if this is true its an even bigger flaw than its given credit.[/quote]

Resource system was flawed and a waste of time, I agree. Attachment system in Mass Effect was infinitely better? No, it wasn't. And I am going to correct you on that one, you can most certainly attain all upgrades for your weapons. In fact, its encouraged, with an achievement gained once you fully upgrade your first weapon. You really should of tested that claim for yourself. 

[quote]So in conclusion, I fought with myself through the campaign in a very bad mood and kept my save in hopes the 3rd game dosn't F**k up as badly as this one.

Go ahead and trash my creditbility for spelling and gramatical errors but I dont care enough to spell check. and that stuff really dosn't matter anyway, you read it and understood it just fine enough to correct it.[/quote]

It doesn't matter? Damn, I guess I'm just wasting my time then! Thanks for the information! :happy:


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First, everyone knows that ME is a shooter WITH RPG elements. Second, I consider ME2 (until ME3 comes out of course) my favorite game ever, and third, we're going to trash your reputation, but because your an a-hole who if you hate a game, just don't play it, but I know you will conyinue to play ME2, and that makes you a hipocrite.

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Spam and personal attacks removed. Let's keep the swearing, insults, and spam out of the discussion, please. Thank you.

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Dissappointed Fan 117 wrote...

The confliction between Content rating and difficulty of the game.
-obviously this game is rated for those 18+, you're reading this cuz you played it, you know what I'm talking about. But since you played the game you know how simple it is, simple enough for 12 years olds. Clearly they made the game with a wide range of age group in mind to maximize profits, which is why I hate it.
-12 year olds shouldn't be playing a game with the material this game contains, but they can surely play through it because its way too f**king simple.


I stopped right there.

First off, you have to achieve a good balance of fun (What makes you want to play again) and depth of gameplay. You can have a very in depth gameplay, but most people would be lost in the complexity and they will look over it simply because it is not fun. And it is true that making things overly simple is lazy, but it is fun! I still play some of my Super Nintendo games because I still have a lot of fun with it. As for Mass Effect, play it on a higher difficulty setting. It's a whole 'nother game.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Spam and personal attacks removed. Let's keep the swearing, insults, and spam out of the discussion, please. Thank you.

The problem is he isn't even voicing an opinion -- more like trolling. I swear if he was politely presenting his impressions I wouldn't have felt the urge to add facepalm images.

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PWENEFIED wrote...

First, everyone knows that ME is a RPG WITH Shooter elements. .


Fixed.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Spam and personal attacks removed. Let's keep the swearing, insults, and spam out of the discussion, please. Thank you.

The problem is he isn't even voicing an opinion -- more like trolling. I swear if he was politely presenting his impressions I wouldn't have felt the urge to add facepalm images.



I agree.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Spam and personal attacks removed. Let's keep the swearing, insults, and spam out of the discussion, please. Thank you.


Apologies, some times its hard to pass up:innocent:

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MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

PWENEFIED wrote...

First, everyone knows that ME is a RPG WITH Shooter elements. .


Fixed.


If you say so...

(not really).

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Ritly13 wrote...

Dissappointed Fan 117 wrote...

The confliction between Content rating and difficulty of the game.
-obviously this game is rated for those 18+, you're reading this cuz you played it, you know what I'm talking about. But since you played the game you know how simple it is, simple enough for 12 years olds. Clearly they made the game with a wide range of age group in mind to maximize profits, which is why I hate it.
-12 year olds shouldn't be playing a game with the material this game contains, but they can surely play through it because its way too f**king simple.


I stopped right there.

Precisely what I wanted to type. At first I felt like having a good discussion, but this kind of logic does not justify the rest of that arguably large text being read. If he simply cannot comprehend that age ratings have nothing to do with the difficulty of a game, then there's no way a discussion would have any purpose at all.

Also, the 117 in your name does give away a lot...

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Proclaiming that the game around which a forum is centered "sucks" in the title of a thread (in all caps no less) has no justification on any forum. If you expected negative responses and had to write several sentences just to justify your lack of spellcheck, just what was the point of the message? To inform the world that you're rebellious and cool?

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PWENEFIED wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

PWENEFIED wrote...

First, everyone knows that ME is a RPG WITH Shooter elements. .


Fixed.


If you say so.


Thanks for agreeing.

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I love Mass Effect 2, was slightly dissapointed with some of the gameplay directions it went in, but still loved it for the awesome game it was. So agree with some of the OP, but not all.

If a company ever brings out a game that isn't classed by some people as 'dumbed down', 'mainstream', made 'for kids' and is universally applauded, I will eat my large oversized straw hat with maple syrup and chilli sauce. No one game can ever appease everyone, but BioWare is certainly trying to bridge those genres, doing a pretty good job so far, so if I was a betting man, I think everything they learned from ME1 and ME2 and use in ME3 will very probably nail it. If it doesn't, it will still be an awesome cinematic choose your own adventure story.

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Pithily, yes, ME2 does indeed suck.

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I love mass effect 2...but i understand the op.

0. Weapon and Armor customization (I REALLY MISS THIS!)
1. The ammo system just sucks, mass effect 1 whas easier + it feels now (me2) like your back in the 20th century because you have ammo system.
2. The galaxy map ?, why on earth got it change with a ship and fuel depo ? its crap as well
3. The scanning system is crap too, i prefer the me1 system or you can buy/trade those resources at a shop.
4. The cover system sucks, when i try to run it suddenly takes cover near a object when i dont want that. I want my crouch back BIOWARE!
5. The Major glitch in the game (shepard gets spaced) and cant get out of it. It really sucks if it happens in combat (many times for me in the map to investigate the crashed ship with all those droids).
6. Importing a character....if you have more shepard saves from mass effect 1 and try to import them...YOU DONT EVEN SEE WHAT SHEPARD YOUR IMPORTING!!! THERE IS NO INFO!!!

Modifié par Michel1986, 12 août 2010 - 11:26 .


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It's up to the parents to enforce the rating and I'm not a noob to ME and I play it for the storyline and it was a difficult game on all the difficulties the game has. But I do agree in some part that it stunk I liked the first ME better with the cover system the galaxy map and reload system was alot  better in the first game.

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I can see where the OP is coming from but he/she should of placed this in the disappointment thread.

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You should play an mmorpg, its way more in you range. (yes its different than an rpg)

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If the post would not been players 1st and without registering bioware games. Maybe I would have been counting this one for real disapointed player. How ever, player who seem to liked ME1, has not registed this forum before to say anyting or even register the bioware games, so how we know this isn't some angry induvidual who is allready posting this forum.