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[mindspat]

Bigdoser wrote...

Ugh the only time i gained approval when i said with my chick character i am not here to impress you and then his approval went up by 6 and i was like O.o. Can someone help me out i want him in my party but man its the disproval lol

No kidding, I replied to him with what I thought would be an insult and he was impressed!!  

"You think you can do better?"
"yes."
+4 Aproval

It seems he's the kind of character that likes to be ridden and challenged.  i've not used him much but will try playing with him more in another playthrough.  so far I'm using Shale Alistar and a random melee; main is Mage/healer/AW.

[LenaMarie]

I found sten worthless as well, you really cant take him anywhere. His Sword is crap, he complains about anything good or evil, and he has the personality of a Rock.



Which is really stupid considering his crimes.

[EvanOfCaerleon]

I took him with me once and that was enough he is a miserable git, from now on I'm sticking with my faithful Bertie the war hound

[Cutter69]

Sten sucks as a character and a combatant. He's a paper tiger and an **** to boot. He actually tried taking over the party by attacking me at one point. I put him down hard though, but he still kept right on ****ing till I finally told him to hit the road. Next play through I'm going to have him put to death.

[Nekator]

FalloutBoy wrote...

CorwynNiTessine wrote...

FalloutBoy wrote...

Sten could have been the stoic badass character who is difficult to get through to at first, but becomes a fiercely loyal and true friend. In fact, I think that is maybe what the writers were going for. If so, they failed, because he just comes across as a a-hole.

Totally agree.

Thanks.

Furthermore I would add that, if I hadn't known in advance that he was a playable NPC, I never would have saved him from the cage. It felt weird that right after telling you he butchered a bunch of children, with no indication of remorse or reconciliation, that the conversation seemed to be steering you toward rescuing him. There is not even an indication beforehand that he would even be useful in a party other than his sheer size.

The only reason I did rescue him had nothing to do with the plot or the writing. I just like having a lot of people in my camp. But that's a poor reason.

quite true.. i had to fall out of my role too, normally my dwarf would have killed him at best.

Anyways, got his approval quick and easy with some talking, alas i find him a quite boring character. With Sten and Oghren there´s really no need for him.

[PurplePaladin]

Sten is a combination of Teoke (the Jeffah in Stargate) and Spock. HIs outlook is that if you just kill the scumbags of the earth, and let the Maker sort them out later. To him, it is just "logical" to use force rather than never ending time, resourses, money, and energy to play "Dr Phil" every time you meet a jerk or potential enemy. Also, if you get to know him REALLY well, and gain his trust, you may find out things about his "eleged" crime. . .

[Taritu]

Get him to warm (30) and ask him about his crime again. He's not as bad a guy as folks seem to think he is. Heck, that's clear in the conversation at the cage, since he seems to want redemption. I don't mind Sten, he may be a murderer, but he has a sense of honor, and he's not the psychopath Morrigan is. Still, probably best to leave him at home for the first part of Redcliffe.

[Rishavs]

he is easily the worst companion. I can't stand his sanctimonious bodings. bugger off, will ya.

[Lukertin]

stevej713 wrote...

I never bothered to let Sten out of his cage in Lothering. If he slaughters families, then he's not going to be anywhere near me.

Too bad you'll never know more about him that the superficial.

What's with all the Sten hate?  I took him along on the majority of my gameplay and I'm unaware as to this "Sten disapproves of everything" factor.    The guy is hilarious if you have a female character and he is like "Women are not fighters.  You are a woman.  This is a great source of confusion for me"

Modifié par Lukertin, 11 novembre 2009 - 07:17 .

[ackote]

You don't even need to get his approval up to learn why he slaughtered that family. Talk to him in the cage, then talk to the Revered Mother and the head templar guy. When you go talk to Sten again he'll tell you why he did it. I don't want to spoil it for everyone, but he had a real good reason to do it.

[Boeresmurf]

he respects strenght and power through any means.

he sees no right/wrong only respect and strenght.. its a noble person



i love him in my party.. he keeps me shapr , focussing to do better everytime.



and i dont got any problems with his moral personality.. since i do stuff that falls bad with most moral decisions of my partymembers. ( actually had to reload once because leliana turned against me/ and i wacked her)



sten makes a great tank or 2hnd dps aswell .

[soteria]

As others have said, the dialogue choices he approves of aren't what you'd expect. My character doesn't care for him much (ever since he told me that, being a woman, I couldn't possibly be a Grey Warden--funny dialogue), so when he argues with me I tell him where to put his opinion. And he likes it.

[tls5669]

His con is PATHETIC! A two handed warrior needs at least decent con to survive in DA:O, that's why i use Oghren as my 2 handed warrior. Sten is a heal sponge.

[exerci]

Sten is awesome. Also, I sort of see where he's coming from in regards to his disapproval. We've got a giant army of Darkspawn slowly and steadily encroaching on human/elven/dwarven territory. They both can, and will, extinguish all human life, unless someone stops them. And yet, you bugger around spending time on all sorts of completely irrelevant side-questing.



In short, he's one of the few characters who ever call the main character out on risking the lives of every single person in the world in order to...poison some random farmers traps or something equivalent to that.



Heck, once you've gotten proper approval with him, you find out exactly why he did the murder. It does not exactly redeem him, but still...



*Spoiler*

He and his company were attacked by darkspawn. Everyone but him died. Someone stole his sword, which in Qunari culture is very very important (In fact, the exact symbol of him being a warrior. He wouldn't be able to return without it), and then got saved while completely delirious from the injuries. When he wakes up and realises that his sword is gone, he panics and lashes out at those closest to him. When he calms down, he realises what he has done, hence why he lets the guards capture him. Also, he likes cookies.*



*Spoiler end*

[jefffaced126]

Sten always seems to take a beating in early battles. Or I just dont know how to use him.

[astrallite]

Sten is always the first guy that falls in my party. I stopped taking him because it was such a chore keeping him alive. It's not that hard to get him to 100 by gifting and talking trash to him before he finally opens up...to say he likes cookies. The thing is, he's still an incredible ass even after you max out his approval rating. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth trying to get that approval bar up.

Modifié par astrallite, 21 mars 2010 - 06:12 .

[thegreateski]

DIE ZOMBIE DIE!

[Myusha]

He's fun, and easy to build. Constitution and Dexterity, followed by Strength, and Rawr!

[Cyberfrog81]

I recruited him but never took him anywhere. Looks like I didn't miss out on a lot of fun stuff.



Though he seemed to respect and perhaps even enjoy being pushed around a bit, which was a nice change of pace. For about 30 seconds.

[harrykim306]

You can get Insane approval ratings with sten when just talking to him in camp or giving him gifts, on one conversation with him I got 23 approval.

[KariTR]

Myusha wrote...

He's fun, and easy to build. Constitution and Dexterity, followed by Strength, and Rawr!

I add nothing but strength, as I have a main tank, so Sten becomes the most powerful party member in terms of raw power. That he can lay flat a crowd of attackers with one swing never gets old. He can seem a bit fragile initially, but comes into his own circa level 10 (probably sooner for those that pay more attenton to build detail). 

As someone else commented, once you understand how Sten's mind works, he is easily the first companion to get to 100% approval. Many "Sten gifts" lie collecting dust in my backpack as I never needed to bribe him to gain his respect and/or trust. Just be firm, let him know you are in charge and whatever you do, if Sten doesnt want to talk then shut up and leave him alone.

Without adding more spoiler content (hopefully a mod will edit exerci's post), I will say that despite Sten being one of my favourite companions, I disagree with those downplaying his crime in this thread.

Modifié par KariTR, 21 mars 2010 - 07:50 .

[cella ragnarokk]

sten is one of my favourites:) It feels so good when i finnaly aprowes you. He is a tough one to get, but when you do, he is really cool....

[Mlai00]

I don't need a guy to agree with me every single time. Or even much of the time. Approval schmapproval. I don't see gifts as "gifts". In my role-playing mind, the reason I slowly build a friendship with someone despite constant disagreements, is because we're comrades in arms and we don't have to like the same TV shows or same taste in clothing or something equally shallow, in order to gain trust with each other. It's great that DAO gives you companions who argue with you.

As for his poor fighting prowess... I use Combat Tweaks and 2-spec Sten mods, so he's awesome.

I never bothered to let Sten out of his cage in Lothering. If he slaughters families, then he's not going to be anywhere near me.

I slaughter entire villages.

It felt weird that right after telling you he butchered a bunch of children, with no indication of remorse or reconciliation, that the conversation seemed to be steering you toward rescuing him.

He's taciturn, and he doesn't offer excuses/explanations for himself like typical death-row inmates, so you have to dig at him to actually find his remorse. Also, Qunari behavior is very different from the Western male; he doesn't emote and he doesn't bluster. He's not going to make a sad face for you to ogle at, as if expressing remorse on his face somehow makes his actions more forgivable.

he has the personality of a Rock.

Which is why my PC has a big crush on him.

Now, how do I make that into a pun...?

[Keira Amnell]

I hated Sten in the beginning - he gave me such trouble at Redcliffe - total disapproval. Blah.



But I started using him after a while - and talking to him. and even though he did attack me at one point - once you show him you're a strong leader that don't take crap - you get approval. And there's a personal quest that will give you approval, as well as gifts in the form of paintings (as it says in the character codex - good tips!)



I find his dialogue to be changingly taciturn, hilarious, annoying and boring.

He's great fun - though I think I'm going to venture out with him and Morrigan - as it seems they have interesting conversations. (Right now I'm listening to Wynne and Zevran chat - LOL)



To me Zevran is the first one to die in fights Sten usually does quite well.

[Lest]

Sten's a fighter and a soldier.



If you want to get approval up:



Leave him alone when he is annoyed with you questioning him.

When he starts to dissaprove of somthing, like when you go for the sacred ashes quest, you have to be strict, snappy and more like a general than someone who's trying to get into his panties. He -will- respect you more if you're cold with him at times, and are more like a war general instead of trying to be his ol' buddy ol' pal.



Personally, I love sten. He seems cold and agressive at first but he's the only character who really suprised me when I got to know them.