Tirigon wrote...
Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
Wow is it really THAT big a deal that some people would actually want NPCs and party members to look ethinically similar to them?
Seriously, and don't go on about how it doesn't fit and crap, because for crying out loud, there's demons that feed off of you while you sleep, dwarves are a race as opposed to a genetic defect, and you get to shank dragons that are easily x100 times your size (and do so with a cool a finishing blow, mind you) multiple times... it's not THAT farfetched to think black people or their in game equivalent would make a weapon shop, or be the advisor to some kind of prominent political figure or whatever. Considering all the other in game feats we accomplish I don't thing it's that hard or difficult to ninja a few black npcs into the game. Yeah, it's a fantasy game, so why is it so hard for people to imagine something other than white people in a given setting.
and i don't get why there are so many people against it either. it doesn't fit the environment? only if it can work properly? seriously? ever heard of a boat? marvelous contraption used to ferry over goods and people from one far away location to another. i hear the hero of DA2 will be using one in his/her adventures to get over to kirkwall. it's not as hard as you make it out to be, and yeah people are going to get upset when you tell them they don't belong someplace or have no business being there, especially over something so trivial as their looks.
i'm not even black, loved the first game to bits (bought it 3 times within the span of like 2 weeks, plus 2 guides, one paperback and one hardback) and i can understand why people are upset.
They aren't asking that you bend the will of thedas to their whims, they just want the same kind of immersion as everyone else, is all. I think it's even crappier that people would say there's not point to topics like this or they ought to be locked.
It's basically brushing people's concern under the rug because it makes other people feel umcomfortable. I mean would anyone here REALLY be upset if Bioware decided to add more African Americans/black people/(whatever word you prefer) into the game? Or is this whole fuss really about the TERM used in the title? We all know *exactly* what the OP was talking about and the attempts to turn this thread into political discussion about what's the right and wrong way to name something is nothing but a bunch of rabble rousing.
(and btw callo, this whole post isn't geared towards you, so please don't think it is my trying to attack you, as that was not my intention)
You make some vali points BUT Thedas is based on medieval Europe. So there are no blacks. That´s a fact.
Now, you could criticise "Why do they have to base every game on Europe?" and I´d be totally with you. It sucks, and games like Jade Empire show that it´s not necessary for a good game either.
It´s a fantasy game, not a medieval life simulator, and there is really NO reason why all humans should be white in this fantasy world (though they aren´t, ever seen Chasind?:innocent:)
However, BioWare made the mistake to base their game on medieval Europe, and therefore they have to stick with this or they make themselves ridiculous.
I don't think they'd be making themselves look ridiculous. Like you said it's not a medieval sims, so that alone should be reason enough. How could they make themselves look anymore ridculous than allow a PC to be black but have noone else in the world look like you?
They may have borrowed some things from Europe, but Thedas is NOT Europe. It's an entirely seperate world with it's own rules and regulations, none of which say "there are no black people", unless a dev specifically comes in here and says that themselves. Furthermore referrences to other games are moot. This isn't Jade Empire, this is Dragon Age. That's comparing apples to oranges. It doesn't matter that they are being sold by the same farmer (Bioware), they are still two different fruits.
Like other people, I thought that some NPCs already looked black and was fine with it but clearly a lot of people thought it was, as other people put it, a "white guy with a really dark tan." I don't share their opinion but I get where they are coming from and it miffs me that a lot of other forum goers are telling them to more or less shut up and put up with it because they are personally happy with the way the game is. Rude, much?