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[crimzontearz]

Thompson family wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...


it does not happen that way for me, if I do not have at least another loaylty mission lined up BEOFE legion's (meaning I have done ALL the Lyoalties before doing the IFF) then the collector abduction triggers immediately (leaving me no time to do anything else) and I cannot do Legion's Loyalty uintil after it takes place

Do you go to talk at length to Legion and get the loyalty mission assignment before stopping and even checking on the star map in the command center?

yes all he says is "we are building a consensus try again later"

and the moment I get into the CIC Edi tells me the IFF is ready

[Fiery Phoenix]

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

ok.....so wait.....are you telling me that you do the IFF mission and immediately after you can go ahead and do Legion's loyalty even if you have already done all the other loyalty missions? because I cannot

I'm not sure how I can make this any clearer. I do EVERYONE's loyalty mission BEFORE heading to the IFF. Once I'm done with the loyalties, I go to the IFF, finish it up and recruit Legion. Once I have Legion onboard, I talk his loyalty mission out of him and do it right way. Once I'm done with Legion's loyalty mission, the crew abduction cutscene triggers. After that, I immediately hit Omega-4 and launch the suicide mission, as I have ABSOLUTELY nothing else to do at that point.

it does not happen that way for me, if I do not have at least another loaylty mission lined up BEOFE legion's (meaning I have done ALL the Lyoalties before doing the IFF) then the collector abduction triggers immediately (leaving me no time to do anything else) and I cannot do Legion's Loyalty uintil after it takes place

It's probably because you run to the Galaxy Map before talking to Legion. After the IFF, activate Legion, and talk to him as much as you. Do NOT touch Galaxy Map until AFTER Legion's loyalty mission has been triggered.

[crimzontearz]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

ok.....so wait.....are you telling me that you do the IFF mission and immediately after you can go ahead and do Legion's loyalty even if you have already done all the other loyalty missions? because I cannot

I'm not sure how I can make this any clearer. I do EVERYONE's loyalty mission BEFORE heading to the IFF. Once I'm done with the loyalties, I go to the IFF, finish it up and recruit Legion. Once I have Legion onboard, I talk his loyalty mission out of him and do it right way. Once I'm done with Legion's loyalty mission, the crew abduction cutscene triggers. After that, I immediately hit Omega-4 and launch the suicide mission, as I have ABSOLUTELY nothing else to do at that point.

it does not happen that way for me, if I do not have at least another loaylty mission lined up BEOFE legion's (meaning I have done ALL the Lyoalties before doing the IFF) then the collector abduction triggers immediately (leaving me no time to do anything else) and I cannot do Legion's Loyalty uintil after it takes place

It's probably because you run to the Galaxy Map before talking to Legion. After the IFF, activate Legion, and talk to him as much as you. Do NOT touch Galaxy Map until AFTER Legion's loyalty mission has been triggered.

as I said....I do talk to him immediately but after the initial exchange (after he tells you he will join and looks forward to the exchange of data) he simply says he needs to build a consensus and at that point the IFF is ready 

[fegede]

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...



The way I play this game goes like this -- after acquiring the Normandy:



Recruitment (first half) >> Horizon >> Recruitment (second half) >> Collector Ship >> Loyalty missions >> N7 missions >> Overlord >> Reaper IFF >> Legion's loyalty >> Suicide mission



Of course, there minor things inbetween, like visiting the Citadel and Omega for sidequests, as well as doing the Normandy Crash Site mission, but that's the most basic version.

you need an extra loaylty mission left over after the reaper IFF or else the boarding cutscene will happen BEFORE you'll have the chance to do legion's loyalty mission

Exactly, and that's Legion's, as I wrote above.

ok.....so wait.....are you telling me that you do the IFF mission and immediately after you can go ahead and do Legion's loyalty even if you have already done all the other loyalty missions? because I cannot

If I recall, I did it that way in one playtrough... Disadvantage was that as soon as I had legion, he told me about his loyalty mission and I couldn't give him the widow until the loyalty was over, wich is a shame



*also getting out of topic about kasumi*

Personally, I like kasumi a lot and I think flashbang and rapid shadow strike are two of the best squadmates powers. Most people find her fragile, but for me she dies a lot less than other squadmates. Offensively I use mainly flashbang, with rapid shadow strike as a defensive power. When she's in trouble, call a strike on someone and her shields will be back at full strength when she comes back. If she made the kill, well she's ready to cast something else instantly.

Shadow strike can also distract YMIR's and scions for a couple of seconds when she uncloaks next to them to strike. Even if she eats the YMIR's rocket in the face while striking, she won't take any damage and be back at full shields when she uncloaks. At least that's my experience with kasumi on the xbox, correct me if I'm wrong.



Unlike when I use flashbang on Shepard, I was never able to stun myself with kasumi's flashbang. When a varren\\loki mech\\husk gets in melee range, flashbang will stun them but not you so you can punch them to death easily. On harbinger, it is broken and makes collectors fights too easy. Never tried to flashbang a ragdolled opponent... must be fun.

[Fiery Phoenix]

crimzontearz wrote...

as I said....I do talk to him immediately but after the initial exchange (after he tells you he will join and looks forward to the exchange of data) he simply says he needs to build a consensus and at that point the IFF is ready 

Normally, the Journal will tell you to talk to Legion right after your first conversation with him. Maybe it depends on what dialog options you choose the first time you talk to him? Have you tried asking him about... stuff?

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 28 août 2010 - 10:47 .

[crimzontearz]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as I said....I do talk to him immediately but after the initial exchange (after he tells you he will join and looks forward to the exchange of data) he simply says he needs to build a consensus and at that point the IFF is ready 

Normally, the Journal will tell you to talk to Legion right after your first conversation with him. Maybe it depends on what dialog options you choose the first time you talk to him? Have you tried asking him about... stuff?

LOL I am a ME vet witn about 300 hours in ME1 and 400 in ME

I always, ALWAYS do all conversation options with every character before ending a conversation.

[Fiery Phoenix]

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as I said....I do talk to him immediately but after the initial exchange (after he tells you he will join and looks forward to the exchange of data) he simply says he needs to build a consensus and at that point the IFF is ready 

Normally, the Journal will tell you to talk to Legion right after your first conversation with him. Maybe it depends on what dialog options you choose the first time you talk to him? Have you tried asking him about... stuff?

LOL I am a ME vet witn about 300 hours in ME1 and 400 in ME

I always, ALWAYS do all conversation options with every character before ending a conversation.

And that's exactly what I do, too. There's no reason this won't work for you.

Look, this may sound like a cheap idea, but I suggest trying to go up to the Captain's Quarters and saving, then going back down to the Crew Deck and talking to Legion again. Maybe this will "update" him.

[crimzontearz]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

as I said....I do talk to him immediately but after the initial exchange (after he tells you he will join and looks forward to the exchange of data) he simply says he needs to build a consensus and at that point the IFF is ready 

Normally, the Journal will tell you to talk to Legion right after your first conversation with him. Maybe it depends on what dialog options you choose the first time you talk to him? Have you tried asking him about... stuff?

LOL I am a ME vet witn about 300 hours in ME1 and 400 in ME

I always, ALWAYS do all conversation options with every character before ending a conversation.

And that's exactly what I do, too. There's no reason this won't work for you.

Look, this may sound like a cheap idea, but I suggest trying to go up to the Captain's Quarters and saving, then going back down to the Crew Deck and talking to Legion again. Maybe this will "update" him.

eh..why bother at this point? it works fine for me when I leave Zaeed mission last, do the IFF then do Zaeed, then talk to legion a second time and do his loyalty...after that the abduction triggers  and I hit the omega 4 relay immediately

[Fiery Phoenix]

crimzontearz wrote...

eh..why bother at this point? it works fine for me when I leave Zaeed mission last, do the IFF then do Zaeed, then talk to legion a second time and do his loyalty...after that the abduction triggers  and I hit the omega 4 relay immediately

I know. You just really got me curious as to why that is. I don't recall it happening to me at all.

[crimzontearz]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

eh..why bother at this point? it works fine for me when I leave Zaeed mission last, do the IFF then do Zaeed, then talk to legion a second time and do his loyalty...after that the abduction triggers  and I hit the omega 4 relay immediately

I know. You just really got me curious as to why that is. I don't recall it happening to me at all.

dunno really.....it just does

[Fiery Phoenix]

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

eh..why bother at this point? it works fine for me when I leave Zaeed mission last, do the IFF then do Zaeed, then talk to legion a second time and do his loyalty...after that the abduction triggers  and I hit the omega 4 relay immediately

I know. You just really got me curious as to why that is. I don't recall it happening to me at all.

dunno really.....it just does

I'd appreciate it if you could update me on this, though. If you ever find out what's causing it, let me know.

[crimzontearz]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

eh..why bother at this point? it works fine for me when I leave Zaeed mission last, do the IFF then do Zaeed, then talk to legion a second time and do his loyalty...after that the abduction triggers  and I hit the omega 4 relay immediately

I know. You just really got me curious as to why that is. I don't recall it happening to me at all.

dunno really.....it just does

I'd appreciate it if you could update me on this, though. If you ever find out what's causing it, let me know.

I'll message you if I find out more but it is rather unlikely as I have fallen into the habit  of leaving Zaeed loyalty mission for after the iff

[lazuli]

Pacifien wrote...
In my opinion, along with Miranda, Kasumi is the most versatile and powerful squadmate of the game. She is worth two of any other squadmate. From what I've seen on the forum, I'm not the only one who feels that way.

She has a lot of potential and works well with players that fight on the front lines.  Shadow Strike fails a lot at great distances, though, so she isn't as useful to a dedicated sniper.  I find that by the time the late game rolls around, I've forgotten about Kasumi.  Shadow Strike has tons of advantages over other defense stripping/damage powers, but it's slow and buggy.  It's a great skill, but it doesn't mesh with my playstyle.

[cerberus1701]

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

The way I play this game goes like this -- after acquiring the Normandy:

Recruitment (first half) >> Horizon >> Recruitment (second half) >> Collector Ship >> Loyalty missions >> N7 missions >> Overlord >> Reaper IFF >> Legion's loyalty >> Suicide mission

Of course, there minor things inbetween, like visiting the Citadel and Omega for sidequests, as well as doing the Normandy Crash Site mission, but that's the most basic version.

you need an extra loaylty mission left over after the reaper IFF or else the boarding cutscene will happen BEFORE you'll have the chance to do legion's loyalty mission

Exactly, and that's Legion's, as I wrote above.

ok.....so wait.....are you telling me that you do the IFF mission and immediately after you can go ahead and do Legion's loyalty even if you have already done all the other loyalty missions? because I cannot

Yes. That's the way I always do it.

Everyone's loyalty clear

Do IFF

After cutscene, go to Legion, activate legion, speak to Legion twice before going anywhere else (to open the mission) Go to CIC, go do Legion's loyalty. 

[PsyrenY]

I always get Legion before I do Tali's loyalty, so I can bring him to the Migrant fleet and get the additional dialogue. Doing it that way gets you two missions before the IFF activates (the second is Legion's loyalty) allowing you to have everyone loyal before saving the crew.

In short:

1) Recruit everyone and make them all loyal except Tali.
2) Do Derelict Reaper and grab Legion.
3) Activate him, and he will be "building consensus." Take him and Tali to Migrant Fleet.
4) When I get back, he is ready for his loyalty.
5) When I get back from that (100% squad loyal), go to any N7 mission and the Collectors attack.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 22 septembre 2010 - 02:46 .