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[Maria Caliban]

I’m not talking major medical problems, but the day to day stuff. Do you use painkillers and antihistamines? Do you get vaccinated against the flu? When you get sick, do you go to the doctor for antibiotics?

I’ve noticed that some tend to have very strong, negative reactions to these things.

[JMOR]

I try to go in as a last resort, no need to go see doctor 'couldn't care less about you' unless I'm dieing.

Modifié par JMOR, 23 octobre 2009 - 11:57 .

[Dahn-Var Starcloak]

If I have a strong headache then sure- I take the painkiller. If I have a toothache, I go visit the dentist. If the dentist *caused* the toothache, then I take painkiller for that too.

[DigitalOrigami]

Maria Caliban wrote...


I’m not talking major medical problems, but the day to day stuff. Do you use painkillers and antihistamines? Do you get vaccinated against the flu? When you get sick, do you go to the doctor for antibiotics?

I’ve noticed that some tend to have very strong, negative reactions to these things.

Getting in to see a doctor here is enough of a headache that I don't do it unless absolutely necessary. And while I do have the usual painkillers in the medicine cabinet (aspirin, Tylenol, and something else that I can't remember) they're more likely to expire than get used. It never occurs to me to pop a pill for something. I'm used to a certain amount of pain in my shoulder, elbow, and wrist (comes from 20 years of working with computers daily) that it's just "there" and I don't notice it unless I stop and think about it.

[wrexingcrew]

I take my medical advice exclusively from Tom Cruise. No aspirin is gonna mess with my thetan.

EDIT: [Expletive], I swear it wasn't intentional, DO.  I gotta stop doing that.

Modifié par wrexingcrew, 23 octobre 2009 - 12:09 .

[Sornin]

I take the minimum amount of medicine safely possible. For example, I do not get flu vaccinations because they are unnecessary if you are healthy, but I am not opposed to things like polio vaccinations since your body will not necessarily fend off polio with no longterm ill effects.

[Critical Miss]

Don't get me started on this. Been listening to lectures and reading articles by doctors and scientists concerned about multi-national pharmaceutical companies and the WHO. There's a lot going on in the area of health and food at the moment.

[Quixal]

I try not use more than I need. I do have a number of medical problems that require meds for me to do that living thing I have become so fond of.

I have maybe gotten the flu shot three times in the last two decades, though this year has been one of those three.

I don't use much in the way of over-the-counter meds. I only see a doctor if an illness is either very serious or simply will not go away.

Modifié par Quixal, 23 octobre 2009 - 12:34 .

[Jonp382]

No to the former three. Anti-biotics being an uncertainty to me, are only a last resort.

[the_one_54321]

i try to avoid all forms of medication except as a last resort. symptoms in your body are signs of your immune system at work.



the only exceptions are ant-acids, since ive been getting regular heartburn lately, and sometimes antihistamines when my allergies get really bad. even those are used sparingly.

[Mordaedil]

Day to day stuff? I don't really have anything besides allergies and then it's usually one per day during the summer, not much else.

[Panderfringe]

Maria Caliban wrote...


Do you use painkillers and antihistamines? Do you get vaccinated against the flu? When you get sick, do you go to the doctor for antibiotics?

I try not to use painkillers or antihistamines. Don't know why, have nothing against them. I get flu vaccines every year. If I go to get antibiotics I usually make sure I have a bacterial infection. Nothing worse than getting antibiotics for a viral infection.

[BluesMan1956]

Sornin wrote...

I take the minimum amount of medicine safely possible. For example, I do not get flu vaccinations because they are unnecessary if you are healthy, but I am not opposed to things like polio vaccinations since your body will not necessarily fend off polio with no longterm ill effects.

Thank  you, Dr. Sornin!  Where did you go to medical school?

[the_one_54321]

oh yeah, the last time i went to the doctor was when i dislocated my shoulder. a necessary hospital visit is about the only thing that will get me in there.

[Panderfringe]

the_one_54321 wrote...

oh yeah, the last time i went to the doctor was when i dislocated my shoulder. a necessary hospital visit is about the only thing that will get me in there.

I want to understand what causes this stubbornness toward the medical industry and doctors.

[the_one_54321]

there are people who need medical attention far more than i do. and usually bed rest and the correct diet do the trick on their own.

[Antiuna]

I don't have anything against Doctors, hell my dad is one and I almost went to vet school, what I do have a problem with is over medication. Its happens! I was a pre-health student (my school was small so pre vet and pre med were lumped together) and learned all sorts of fun facts about modern medicine.

I don't tend to take much in the way of meds. I never take pain killers, usually if you're in pain its your body's way of saying "Hey! Hey! Hey! Doing that is causing damage! Stop it!" so numbing that may actually slow the healing process (there has actually been a lot of research showing this). In terms of minor pain killers (tylonol, etc) I just don't want to deal extra damage to my liver or kidneys, so I don't take them. I also don't have extreme pain in anyway.

In terms of anti-biotics, I would be extremely cautious about taking them. Anti-biotics are over subscribed  and miss used, and knowing what I know about bacteria and evolution, I am a bit worried about super bugs (multiresistant bacteria). Nothing to make me panic, but I'll do my part to help the long term survival of my species! (why I don't kow).

Flu shot - In my honest opinion, its only necissary for the high risk groups such as hospital workers. However, many other vaccienes are good - like the ones the make you take as a baby.

Not to sound preachy or anything but fighting illness builds your bodies natural immune system. Over sanitizing crap with anti bacterial soaps when you're not sick, sterilizing yoru children because they played in the mud - these behaviors can compromize your and your childrens immune systems. I roll in the mud, play in the rain, and I hardly ever get sick.


My personal issues with the pharmaceutical companies is that they make it seem like you can fix anything with their drugs - and you can't. Even what you can fix is expensive, and you'd save yourself money, hasstle, and pain but just staying healthy. Also, they will advertise drugs and try to convince people they NEED them, even before they go to the doctors. I remembe the old clartin commercials - I never knew what the hell they were for, but I was supposed to talk to my doctor about them?



/off soap box

[the_one_54321]

Antiuna wrote...

I don't have anything against Doctors, hell my dad is one and I almost went to vet school, what I do have a problem with is over medication. Its happens! I was a pre-health student (my school was small so pre vet and pre med were lumped together) and learned all sorts of fun facts about modern medicine.

I don't tend to take much in the way of meds. I never take pain killers, usually if you're in pain its your body's way of saying "Hey! Hey! Hey! Doing that is causing damage! Stop it!" so numbing that may actually slow the healing process (there has actually been a lot of research showing this). In terms of minor pain killers (tylonol, etc) I just don't want to deal extra damage to my liver or kidneys, so I don't take them. I also don't have extreme pain in anyway.

In terms of anti-biotics, I would be extremely cautious about taking them. Anti-biotics are over subscribed  and miss used, and knowing what I know about bacteria and evolution, I am a bit worried about super bugs (multiresistant bacteria). Nothing to make me panic, but I'll do my part to help the long term survival of my species! (why I don't kow).

Flu shot - In my honest opinion, its only necissary for the high risk groups such as hospital workers. However, many other vaccienes are good - like the ones the make you take as a baby.

Not to sound preachy or anything but fighting illness builds your bodies natural immune system. Over sanitizing crap with anti bacterial soaps when you're not sick, sterilizing yoru children because they played in the mud - these behaviors can compromize your and your childrens immune systems. I roll in the mud, play in the rain, and I hardly ever get sick.


My personal issues with the pharmaceutical companies is that they make it seem like you can fix anything with their drugs - and you can't. Even what you can fix is expensive, and you'd save yourself money, hasstle, and pain but just staying healthy. Also, they will advertise drugs and try to convince people they NEED them, even before they go to the doctors. I remembe the old clartin commercials - I never knew what the hell they were for, but I was supposed to talk to my doctor about them?



/off soap box

advice taken.

[Panderfringe]

Not to sound preachy or anything but fighting illness builds your bodies natural immune system.

So do vaccines.

My personal issues with the pharmaceutical companies is that they make it seem like you can fix anything with their drugs - and you can't. Even what you can fix is expensive, and you'd save yourself money, hasstle, and pain but just staying healthy. Also, they will advertise drugs and try to convince people they NEED them, even before they go to the doctors. I remembe the old clartin commercials - I never knew what the hell they were for, but I was supposed to talk to my doctor about them?

Uh, maybe not everything is fixed by medication... but a hell of a lot is. Being healthy does not mean you will never get sick, ever.

Modifié par Panderfringe, 23 octobre 2009 - 03:24 .

[Amberyl Ravenclaw]

Panderfringe wrote...

I want to understand what causes this stubbornness toward the medical industry and doctors.

At least in my country, health care is more of a hindrance than a help. Not everyone has or can afford insurance. Public hospitals charge lower fees, but they're VERY overstuffed and doctors treat you like another number in the line - even for serious / terminal cases, as was my family's experience when my mother had a neuromuscular disorder. Some private hospitals are fine but they're astronomically expensive. For private clinics, it depends, but I've found that competence levels vary and the monetary incentive further has me suspect.

Case in point: I was very sick after my summer vacation to a foreign country (almost couldn't get out of bed for 5 days straight) , and came back with the suspicion that I might have gotten H1N1. I went to a clinic. The chap there gave me a cursory examination, didn't really bother even when I told him my fears, and happily proclaimed that "Oh, you just have a normal cold/fever." He charged me for a bunch of things including cough suppressant (I hate that stuff), anti-allergy pills (WTF? I didn't even *tell* him anything about allergies, why should he presume that I have any?), panadol (thanks, I could've bought that myself, and cheaper too), and another whole loose collection of crap. I hate doctors like that - the ones who either don't seem to know what you're doing, or leave you with the impression that they see you as a money bag, not someone in need of help. Oh, and my "normal cough" lasted an entire month and left me unable to do nearly anything that required mass concentration or energy; and nothing that said doctor gave me actually helped. >.>

Like the_one, I only see healthcare as a necessary evil when it comes to things like allergies, injuries, or persistent problems. Thank goodness for antihistamines (helps sinusitis, when you can't breathe) and ibuprofen; otherwise, I prefer to have my immune system fight out the rest because I prefer not to get dependent on medication, especially when I don't know the side effects.  Anyway the doctors I know don't seem to be much help in the first place; so "Why bother?" is my cynical opinion. 

Modifié par Amberyl Ravenclaw, 23 octobre 2009 - 03:46 .

[Antiuna]

I'm not saying it wont, my beef is with people thinking they can take meds to fix ALL their problems. I've got familiar hypercholesterolemia, I take meds for it 'cause diet alone doesn't do the trick. I don't however assume I have to go to the doctor and get meds when I have a cold =P



And vaccines aren't always permanent solutions, that is why many of them require booster shoots.



And abut pain meds. I got Percocet for my wisdom teeth, It was a rather amusing experience. I only ended up taking one and a half pills, but I got so damn high . . . damn those meds are expired now =\\

[the_one_54321]

i was taking vicodin when i dislocated my shoulder. man that stuff is great. best sleep aid ever. and when you cant even roll over on your side, a great sleep aid is something you need.

[lv12medic]

I like getting my body filled with secret government tracking chips. I get SIRIUS-XM radio for free now in my head.



Kidding aside, all medication have their pro's and con's. If used properly and for the right reason they're fine. But not all medication is created equal so to speak. My best example is my dad. He was taking Lipitor for high cholesterol but the insurance company came in after a couple years and said, "Hey, we got a sweet buddy-buddy deal with the guys that make Crestor, so you have to use that now even though the doctor originally prescribed Lipitor." So my dad takes the crestor and after a few months has a crazy reaction to it that mimicked rheumatoid (spelling?) artheritis in his knees. He stops taking the Crestor cause I guess someone at his work had the same thing happen when they made the switch and the arthritis type thing vanished. Now, my dads working at losing cholesterol the old fashioned way, good diet and exercise.

[Maria Caliban]

Today I woke up with a headache and my neck was stiff and sore. I drank tea and walked for an hour. The headache and much of the soreness worked itself out but then my ovaries felt like they were going to burst out and strangle the next person who irritated me, and as people frequently irritate me, I took two ibuprofen.

I got the regular flu shot not long ago, and in another two weeks, I’ll be snorting the H1N1 vaccine.

I take anti-depressants when I have health insurance, which I don’t right now, and have since college. When I’m on them, I hate them. When I’m off them, I hate not being on them.

I use antihistamines to help me sleep.

When it comes to stronger painkillers, I love them. Ear infection + Painkiller* + Vodka made walking around my step-fathers house like swimming when I was slightly detached from my body.

If a doctor proscribes an anti-biotic, I'll take one. As for when I go to the doctor, whenever my body tells me I need to go. There's moderately sick and there's really sick, and I've experienced them both enough to know the difference.

*Oxycodone, I think. Whatever my step-father was taking at the time.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 23 octobre 2009 - 03:54 .

[the_one_54321]

lv12medic wrote...
 Now, my dads working at losing cholesterol the old fashioned way, good diet and exercise.

sounds like they did him a favor.