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Udina or Anderson for council member.


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I could use some help choosing one.

Usually, I would have been all about Anderson, like I have been, but I heard in the new book, they made Udina canon.

So, can someone give me the dialouge options for udina and tell me if you can still get reinstated into the spectres with udina.

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do not chose undina chose anderson

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Kaiser Shepard

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Just go with Anderson, if only to ****** Udina off for the time being.

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iF you choose Udina, Anderson calls you nevertheless. he says he tried to arrange a meeting with the council but failed to do so. But he can still push you through and make you a specter again.



udina arrives, he tells anderson he will be waiting for anderson in his office etc etc.



No big difference.

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When it comes to Udina, I remember what my good friend Obi-Wan Kenobi once said: "He's a politician, and he's not to be trusted."

Go with Anderson.

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Yeah, definitely go with Anderson. He is a far better choice.

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The game is about defending the galaxy. You need someone who will be concerned with defense.

Not political ambition. That can wait until after the Reapers are defeated.

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Udina advocates for human rights and pushes for them against the Alien councils, though I don't know how he does for pro-Human Council. He's a politician at heart though and shows huge distrust for the spectres and Shepard, refusing to allow you to be a spectre if the previous council died (and disbanding the program if I remember correctly).



Anderson advocates that humanity have a place with the other aliens, though. He's far more accepting of the alien Councils instead of pushing them and such, his respect for Shepard doesn't change though and he'll always make you a spectre.



The most important thing to note though is how Anderson firmly believes in the Reapers and Shepard while Udina would gladly wipe you out of the records and forget you. While I do believe that Udina is a better Councilor, Anderson is the needed one for the trials that lie ahead.

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Anderson. He's more a Statesman. Udina is just a politician.

Statesmen look out for the next generation. Politicians look out for the next election.

As Anderson himself said, though, "He has his uses". 

Modifié par MadCat221, 15 août 2010 - 05:34 .


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Nightwriter wrote...

The game is about defending the galaxy. You need someone who will be concerned with defense.

Not political ambition. That can wait until after the Reapers are defeated.


All of that is made irrelevant though if you're unable to even compromise with your fellow Council members. I like Anderson, but that doesn't change the fact that he ultimately fails at making a dent because far more idealistic.

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Anyone who considers Udina the better choice... remember this: He's the one who locked Shepard out of the Normandy after Virmire.  The council didn't, they just voiced concern about you not dropping the issue.  Udina did it to appease them, because you were politically inconvenient.

And look how that ended up.   The coward probably hid under his desk the entire time.

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The game is about defending the galaxy. You need someone who will be concerned with defense.

Not political ambition. That can wait until after the Reapers are defeated.


All of that is made irrelevant though if you're unable to even compromise with your fellow Council members. I like Anderson, but that doesn't change the fact that he ultimately fails at making a dent because far more idealistic.


And Udina doesn't even bother trying to make a "dent", because it's politically dangerous.

Modifié par MadCat221, 15 août 2010 - 05:38 .


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Does not matter. Anderson quits later so........

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Does not matter. Anderson quits later so........


It's not been confirmed that Councilor Anderson stepped down, though. Only Admiral Anderson.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 15 août 2010 - 05:39 .


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MadCat221 wrote...

And Udina doesn't even bother trying to make a "dent", because it's politically dangerous.


He's actually doing a lot as Councilor due to the Council not being allowed to simply ignore him.

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Well, seems I've gotten my answer. I'll still go with Anderson.

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The game is about defending the galaxy. You need someone who will be concerned with defense.

Not political ambition. That can wait until after the Reapers are defeated.


All of that is made irrelevant though if you're unable to even compromise with your fellow Council members. I like Anderson, but that doesn't change the fact that he ultimately fails at making a dent because far more idealistic.


? You knew how effective Anderson was going to be ahead of time?

You can make decisions based on principle, or you can use the futurescope and judge based on their future results. I've done both at differing times.

If you're going to do the latter, consider that Udina is even less useful, so I don't see why you wouldn't just put a man you trust in position and get your Spectre status back.

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It doesn't matter which of the two you select. The only difference is a dialogue line change. It doesn't have any impact at all.

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

It doesn't matter which of the two you select. The only difference is a dialogue line change. It doesn't have any impact at all.


If it has any importance at all, it'll probably be in ME3.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

It doesn't matter which of the two you select. The only difference is a dialogue line change. It doesn't have any impact at all.


If it has any importance at all, it'll probably be in ME3.

Any  "ïmportant" ME1 decision resulted in a dialogue line change, an e-mail to the Normandy or at best a cameo. But none of the decisions had any real impact on the game. The game plays out the same no matter what choices you've made. I doubt ME3 will be any different.

Edit: Added the word "important".

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 15 août 2010 - 06:45 .


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As the decision has effectively no impact on the brief encounter with the two, go for Udina. Anderson is a "good guy" and all, but Udina is sheer hilarity.

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

It doesn't matter which of the two you select. The only difference is a dialogue line change. It doesn't have any impact at all.


If it has any importance at all, it'll probably be in ME3.

Any  "ïmportant" ME1 decision resulted in a dialogue line change, an e-mail to the Normandy or at best a cameo. But none of the decisions had any real impact on the game. The game plays out the same no matter what choices you've made. I doubt ME3 will be any different.

Edit: Added the word "important".


Yeah, although considering how ME3 is the final of the series they'd either have to go full blown or disappoint everybody again for a second time.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

It doesn't matter which of the two you select. The only difference is a dialogue line change. It doesn't have any impact at all.


If it has any importance at all, it'll probably be in ME3.

Any  "ïmportant" ME1 decision resulted in a dialogue line change, an e-mail to the Normandy or at best a cameo. But none of the decisions had any real impact on the game. The game plays out the same no matter what choices you've made. I doubt ME3 will be any different.

Edit: Added the word "important".


Yeah, although considering how ME3 is the final of the series they'd either have to go full blown or disappoint everybody again for a second time.

Agreed. ;)

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Dave of Canada wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

It doesn't matter which of the two you select. The only difference is a dialogue line change. It doesn't have any impact at all.


If it has any importance at all, it'll probably be in ME3.

Any  "ïmportant" ME1 decision resulted in a dialogue line change, an e-mail to the Normandy or at best a cameo. But none of the decisions had any real impact on the game. The game plays out the same no matter what choices you've made. I doubt ME3 will be any different.

Edit: Added the word "important".


Yeah, although considering how ME3 is the final of the series they'd either have to go full blown or disappoint everybody again for a second time.


I remember somewhere one of the Bioware folks said that ME3 will be impacted by ME2 decisions AND ME1 decisions. They also explained that ME2 had to be kind of restricted just because it's the middle of the trilogy, but they plan for ME3 to have a lot more ways for the story to branch out.

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Anderson. If anything, he'll get you your Spectre status back in ME2 -- unlike Udina.

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my choice would be Anderson

but, keep in mind, as Casey himself has said, this is "your" canon story, so the choice is yours
(something I think Drew forgot about, when writing Redemption, IMHO)