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[Persephone]

And is it just me or is anyone else going "AWWWWWWWWWWW!" at the "Nothing could please me more." line? It shows just how much Anora actually seeks her father's approval and how true his Daughter speech at the Landsmeet is in their case.

[Monica21]

Persephone wrote...

And is it just me or is anyone else going "AWWWWWWWWWWW!" at the "Nothing could please me more." line? It shows just how much Anora actually seeks her father's approval and how true his Daughter speech at the Landsmeet is in their case.

Yep, I did. And that's the Russian version again, isn't it? The same person who uploaded the cut Ostagar dialogue.

[CalJones]

Damn it, why did they cut that?



(The rat was my fella's - she was a cutie. Unfortunatley rat lifespans are even shorter than wardens').

[Sarah1281]

That scene is actually in the toolset. I was a little confused when I came across it a few weeks ago.

[Persephone]

Monica21 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

And is it just me or is anyone else going "AWWWWWWWWWWW!" at the "Nothing could please me more." line? It shows just how much Anora actually seeks her father's approval and how true his Daughter speech at the Landsmeet is in their case.

Yep, I did. And that's the Russian version again, isn't it? The same person who uploaded the cut Ostagar dialogue.

Yep, it is. I subscribed to her after her first uploads. And today she uploaded this.

[phaonica]

Yeah, I found that Loghain and Anora scene in the toolset when I was looking for the Alistair and Loghain one that was brought up. That Russian website actually mentions a number of things that were not included in the final product, but that are still in the toolset somewhere.

Edit: VO notes for the scene, btw

Anora: Father.
* a cool greeting to her estranged father

Loghain: Anora.
* crisp, a bit icy

Anora: We will need to talk, now that you've... survived.
* cool, "survived" said instead of "survived the execution"

Loghain: I would give it some time, my dear. That may sort itself out very soon, after all.
* a bit amused

Anora: Don't... wait too long, then.
* a bit awkward, she'd like to be on better terms with her father but it's just impossible right now

Loghain: You are the queen. Do as you were meant to. Nothing could please me more.
* grim, this is his way of saying "I love you" as well as "goodbye"

Modifié par phaonica, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:46 .

[CalJones]

Awww...

[KnightofPhoenix]

[Zjarcal]

* grim, this is his way of saying "I love you" as well as "goodbye"

Oh god... :crying:

Modifié par Zjarcal, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:57 .

[Persephone]

phaonica wrote...

Yeah, I found that Loghain and Anora scene in the toolset when I was looking for the Alistair and Loghain one that was brought up. That Russian website actually mentions a number of things that were not included in the final product, but that are still in the toolset somewhere.

Edit: VO notes for the scene, btw

Anora: Father.
* a cool greeting to her estranged father

Loghain: Anora.
* crisp, a bit icy

Anora: We will need to talk, now that you've... survived.
* cool, "survived" said instead of "survived the execution"

Loghain: I would give it some time, my dear. That may sort itself out very soon, after all.
* a bit amused

Anora: Don't... wait too long, then.
* a bit awkward, she'd like to be on better terms with her father but it's just impossible right now

Loghain: You are the queen. Do as you were meant to. Nothing could please me more.
* grim, this is his way of saying "I love you" as well as "goodbye"

Oh God...........:crying::crying::crying: That's just so utterly heartbreaking.

[KnightofPhoenix]

*Group crying hug*

[Persephone]

This just settles it then....I'll never be able to finish the game with Alistair in my party again.

[Monica21]

Persephone wrote...
This just settles it then....I'll never be able to finish the game with Alistair in my party again.

I still don't have the achievement where Alistair kills the AD, but then again there are a lot of achievements I don't have for RP reasons. I guess one more shouldn't hurt.

[Zjarcal]

Monica21 wrote...

Persephone wrote...
This just settles it then....I'll never be able to finish the game with Alistair in my party again.

I still don't have the achievement where Alistair kills the AD, but then again there are a lot of achievements I don't have for RP reasons. I guess one more shouldn't hurt.

Same here. I'm actually only missing 10 achievements overall (including DLC), and only five are story related. I've never romanced Alistair (and never will), so that's two achievements that I'm missing. Same goes for the Warden Commander ending. I don't like how Alistair's sacrifice is ignored in the post coronation. There go another two achievements. And I can never bring myself to defile the Urn, not even for the achievement.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 27 septembre 2010 - 09:17 .

[CalJones]

I got the WC ending a while back, as I mentioned. Absolutely hated that playthrough and hated the b**** for allowing Alistair to kill Loggy. I was kind of glad she had a miserable ending. Deleted her anyway.

I also defiled the urn once but immediately reloaded. Not because I care for the Chantry (I don't) or revere Andraste, but I just don't believe in messing with someone's remains, no matter who they are.

[Persephone]

Monica21 wrote...

Persephone wrote...
This just settles it then....I'll never be able to finish the game with Alistair in my party again.

I still don't have the achievement where Alistair kills the AD, but then again there are a lot of achievements I don't have for RP reasons. I guess one more shouldn't hurt.

I hate that ending. I'm not all that thrilled by lovey dovey Alistair killing Archie without giving me a choice to stop him. There is a Mod that will let you knock him out though, hehehe.

Loghain at least doesn't force his sacrifice on you. Which I find to be way more moving.

[EnchantedEyes1]

phaonica wrote...

Yeah, I found that Loghain and Anora scene in the toolset when I was looking for the Alistair and Loghain one that was brought up. That Russian website actually mentions a number of things that were not included in the final product, but that are still in the toolset somewhere.

Edit: VO notes for the scene, btw

Anora: Father.
* a cool greeting to her estranged father

Loghain: Anora.
* crisp, a bit icy

Anora: We will need to talk, now that you've... survived.
* cool, "survived" said instead of "survived the execution"

Loghain: I would give it some time, my dear. That may sort itself out very soon, after all.
* a bit amused

Anora: Don't... wait too long, then.
* a bit awkward, she'd like to be on better terms with her father but it's just impossible right now

Loghain: You are the queen. Do as you were meant to. Nothing could please me more.
* grim, this is his way of saying "I love you" as well as "goodbye"

Thanks for posting this, I can't watch youtube at work. His last line just makes me

[Zjarcal]

CalJones wrote...

I also defiled the urn once but immediately reloaded. Not because I care for the Chantry (I don't) or revere Andraste, but I just don't believe in messing with someone's remains, no matter who they are.

This is the same reason I can't bring myself to do it.

What I do like to do is initially accept to help Kolgrim, not defile the Urn, and then watch him get all pissed because I Andraste's radiance hasn't been restored.

[Aeowyn]

Why did they cut that?!

[Morwen Eledhwen]

CalJones wrote...

I got the WC ending a while back, as I mentioned. Absolutely hated that playthrough and hated the b**** for allowing Alistair to kill Loggy. I was kind of glad she had a miserable ending. Deleted her anyway.
I also defiled the urn once but immediately reloaded. Not because I care for the Chantry (I don't) or revere Andraste, but I just don't believe in messing with someone's remains, no matter who they are.

I believe that my Mage will have RP reasons for not only defiling the Ashes but for allowing the Werewolves to kill the Dalish and recruiting them as an army instead of the Elves. She's only just come from killing Connor's demon, though, so she has a ways to go and who knows what may happen. But I envisioned her as a character specifically with these achievements in mind --as well as being my first character to make Loghain a Grey Warden. I'm almost done with my CE playthrough (in which, disgusted with herself and with Alistair for the killing of Loghain at Landsmeet, she has convinced him to do the DR with Morrigan but then left him at the gates), so I should be getting back to my Mage's story fairly soon. I'm looking forward to it.

[CalJones]

I'd have thought someone who was disgusted with what they'd done would be more likely to throw themselves at Archie rather than do the DR... what's your reasoning?

[Morwen Eledhwen]

She feels badly for what she did but her disgust is mostly directed at Alistair for putting her in a bind and forcing her to do it, while her disgust with herself is more for allowing herself to be forced (although as I gave my reasons before in this thread, it was the choice that made sense for this character in this playthrough; doesn't stop her from feeling lousy about it though). So while she regrets her part in things, she doesn't want to die. In my previous playthrough, my DC was very caught up in the idealism of the whole thing and she and Alistair had a very pie-in-the-sky romance like a couple of teenagers who just read Romeo and Juliet for the first time in English class and thought that everything should be pure and good and make a statement and all that hoo-hah. That character was perfectly willing to die for Ferelden and especially for Alistair; of course, she didn't leave him at the gates (even if I had known what the consequences would be, I probably wouldn't have been able to justify that character leaving him at the gates), so she got the incredibly frustrating and disappointing WC ending instead. This character (my CE) doesn't care enough for Alistair to want to die for him, nor does she care enough for the world to die for it; and as I said, while feeling pretty scummy about executing Loghain, she doesn't feel like killing herself over it either. So, she'll live, and hopefully be allowed to sod off out of Ferelden when this is over. Leliana has made the "two girls on an adventurous road trip" offer; she's hoping to be allowed to go home with Sten (please don't spoil me as to whether this is possible), but that might be a decent alternative.

It must also be noted that while not necessarily evil, my CE is not an individual of the highest principles. For example, this is the woman who in the course of saving Ferelden and defeating the Blight etc., also has 105 successful steal attempts under her belt (plus a handful of unsuccessful or "nothing to steal" attempts). She has stolen from both her allies and enemies in the Orzammar quest, as well as from the Dalish, the Templars, the Chantry sisters, Brother Genitivi, Eamon and Anora (twice each), Teagan and Ser Perth, Sgt. Kylon, Wade and Herren, the list goes on. . .She also walked into the Landsmeet with Loghain's stolen crown in her backpack, half-hoping to be able to produce it at some point to elicit a reaction (although only half-hoping, because though unprincipled, she is not stupid, and should know that this would only reflect badly on her party). So it makes sense that she would not feel it necessary for her to die because of what happened to Loghain.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 27 septembre 2010 - 11:57 .

[DragonRacer13]

KoP - dude, what are you sick with? Because I think I somehow caught it from you over the Interwebz.  No, but seriously, I'm not sick yet, but I feel it coming on... hmmm, maybe someone is poisoning the Loghain fans... *looks around suspiciously*

Anywhos, very cool, Persephone! Very "d'aaaawwww...." moment.

And speaking of Loghain and Anora, I had a fairly amusing thought earlier today. I'm betting when Anora was little, Loghain could turn from this:



into this:



in a heartbeat. lol

Or, it could just be that the oncoming fever is rattling my brain. Wouldn't take much to rattle that little bit.

[TJPags]

Wow, this went all crazy after I left, I see.



So, is this now officially a "gush" thread? Because, ummm . . yea, no WAY I belong in a Loghain gush thread.

[Monica21]

TJPags wrote...

Wow, this went all crazy after I left, I see.

So, is this now officially a "gush" thread? Because, ummm . . yea, no WAY I belong in a Loghain gush thread.

No, not a gush thread. At least it doesn't say it's a gush thread. Spammers are not cool though. <_<

Modifié par Monica21, 28 septembre 2010 - 12:12 .