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[phaonica]

So many Wardens interested in Morrigan are *hoping* to find her, while my Warden was rather counting on everything going smoothly and never seeing Morrigan again. She's really not going to be happy to find out that Morrigan is in Ferelden for some reason...

Modifié par phaonica, 30 août 2010 - 04:20 .

[Monica21]

phaonica wrote...

So many Wardens interested in Morrigan are *hoping* to find her, while my Warden was rather counting on everything going smoothly and never seeing Morrigan again. She's really not going to be happy to find out that Morrigan is in Ferelden for some reason...

From the Warden's perspective, no news is good news especially as far as the OGB goes, but there is definitely curiousity. And from a player perspective, I just want to know what the hell that was all about.

[KnightofPhoenix]

My Warden Arcturus will be like: "Ha, my life can't get any better. I will have my love back and a divine heir to the throne."

Except if they make her a threat to his power. Now that...would be a dilemna even for me. *still not sure which he loves more. Morrigan or power*

[Brockololly]

Monica21 wrote..
Which is why it should have been a full expansion. %&#$*&%$#!!!!!!!

I would have gladly given BioWare more of my money if they had put Morrigan's story and the ramifications of the DR into a full expack. Guess they don't want my money!

[phaonica]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

My Warden Arcturus will be like: "Ha, my life can't get any better. I will have my love back and a divine heir to the throne."
Except if they make her a threat to his power. Now that...would be a dilemna even for me. *still not sure which he loves more. Morrigan or power*

Isn't Arcturus married to Anora? What is he going to do with her? I assume they have no heir together.

[phaonica]

Monica21 wrote...

phaonica wrote...

So many Wardens interested in Morrigan are *hoping* to find her, while my Warden was rather counting on everything going smoothly and never seeing Morrigan again. She's really not going to be happy to find out that Morrigan is in Ferelden for some reason...

From the Warden's perspective, no news is good news especially as far as the OGB goes, but there is definitely curiousity. And from a player perspective, I just want to know what the hell that was all about.

As a player I'm *dying* to know what that was all about.

My Warden sees the DR as something she does *not* want to be given reason to regret.

Modifié par phaonica, 30 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[Brockololly]

phaonica wrote...
Isn't Arcturus married to Anora? What is he going to do with her? I assume they have no heir together.

I'm kind of curious how Witch Hunt will react to the Warden married to Anora. Marrying Anora doesn't cut off the Morrigan romance does it?

[Monica21]

phaonica wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

My Warden Arcturus will be like: "Ha, my life can't get any better. I will have my love back and a divine heir to the throne."
Except if they make her a threat to his power. Now that...would be a dilemna even for me. *still not sure which he loves more. Morrigan or power*

Isn't Arcturus married to Anora? What is he going to do with her? I assume they have no heir together.

Bastard heirs are getting to be a dime a dozen in Ferelden.

[KnightofPhoenix]

phaonica wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

My Warden Arcturus will be like: "Ha, my life can't get any better. I will have my love back and a divine heir to the throne."
Except if they make her a threat to his power. Now that...would be a dilemna even for me. *still not sure which he loves more. Morrigan or power*

Isn't Arcturus married to Anora? What is he going to do with her? I assume they have no heir together.

Not sure. He actually likes Anora. A lot. In fact, he would have fallen in love with her had he not met Morrigan. So I don't think he would want to kill her. And no, they have no heir.
So what he'lll do is make Morrigan his secret mistress and convince Anora to somehow accept the kid as heir to the throne (Morrigan can be his / her nanny, but I am not sure she would agree).

Of course this ideal ending probably won't happen and I wouldn't mind that much. He didn't get his perfect ideal ending in Origins and I loved it just for that.

To be honest, Arcturus and myself don't really have a plan for this, as we never suspected it would happen, at least not this fast. And I like it.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 30 août 2010 - 04:29 .

[phaonica]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

phaonica wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

My Warden Arcturus will be like: "Ha, my life can't get any better. I will have my love back and a divine heir to the throne."
Except if they make her a threat to his power. Now that...would be a dilemna even for me. *still not sure which he loves more. Morrigan or power*

Isn't Arcturus married to Anora? What is he going to do with her? I assume they have no heir together.

Not sure. He actually likes Anora. A lot. In fact, he would have fallen in love with her had he not met Morrigan. So I don't think he would want to kill her. And no, they have no heir.
So what he'lll do is make Morrigan his secret mistress and convince Anora to somehow accept the kid as heir to the throne (Morrigan can be his / her nanny, but I am not sure she would agree).

Lol. Yeah, I'm sure Anora would *never* suspect anything.

Of course this ideal ending probably won't happen and I wouldn't mind that much. He didn't get his perfect ideal ending in Origins and I loved it just for that.

To be honest, Arcturus and myself don't really have a plan for this, as we never suspected it would happen, at least not this fast. And I like it.

Heck yeah, I love drama. And the DR has *so much* potential for it.

ARRRRG, It's hard to complain about the DLC since it's better than nothing, and WAY better than dealing with it in DA2 only, but what I wouldn't have given for a full blown expansion.

Modifié par phaonica, 30 août 2010 - 05:01 .

[Brockololly]

phaonica wrote...

Heck yeah, I love drama. And the DR has *so much* potential for it.

ARRRRG, It's hard to complain about the DLC since it's better than nothing, and WAY better than dealing with it in DA2 only, but what I wouldn't have given for a full blown expansion.

DLC is better than nothing, provided that the DLC is any good:wizard:

Heck, I almost always had my PC's do the DR simply for the reasoning that it surely would provide some juicy drama down the road. Sadly it seems thats just going to be with Witch Hunt, I guess. Oh well, there is always hope for DA3.....

[phaonica]

Brockololly wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Heck yeah, I love drama. And the DR has *so much* potential for it.

ARRRRG, It's hard to complain about the DLC since it's better than nothing, and WAY better than dealing with it in DA2 only, but what I wouldn't have given for a full blown expansion.

DLC is better than nothing, provided that the DLC is any good:wizard:

The developers/writers certainly have some really high expectations to meet.

Heck, I almost always had my PC's do the DR simply for the reasoning that it surely would provide some juicy drama down the road.

I did it all for the LI. I haven't managed a US ending yet. I would love for this DLC to have some significantly different branches depending on the various endings. It would certainly give those choices much more meaning.

[Monica21]

phaonica wrote...

The developers/writers certainly have some really high expectations to meet.

And that's what worries. It can't appear to be slapped together and half-done like Awakenings, and it's probably going to have to blow people away to be considered a success.

[CalJones]

So long as it gives a proper resolution to the Warden's story, I'm good. Well, provided that the resolution isn't "and then s/he disappeared." Harrumph.

[phaonica]

second page. boo.

The first time I played through the Landsmeet, I thought it was pretty epic. But playing through it recently... it's kind of lame... you accuse Loghain of something and he defends himself, but instead of ever responding to his defense, you just change the subject and accuse him of something else.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yea I actually thought Loghain had stronger arguments. The only two arguments that he doesn't answer just as well are the slavery issue and emprisoning a templar.

But us murdering a Teyrn in his home definately does not look good and I wish we had the choice of sparing Howe. Arcturus would have spared him if it was possible, if only to avoid murdering a Teyrn before a landsmeet.

[Monica21]

The first time I played through the Landsmeet I made the mistake of questioning his tactics at Ostagar. I never did that again. Surprising that I actually won, come to think of it. And how was Teagan able to get away with it when he wasn't even there?

[Addai]

Re. Howe, you seriously consider him a "teryn", as a Cousland character no less??

[phaonica]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea I actually thought Loghain had stronger arguments. The only two arguments that he doesn't answer just as well are the slavery issue and emprisoning a templar.
But us murdering a Teyrn in his home definately does not look good and I wish we had the choice of sparing Howe. Arcturus would have spared him if it was possible, if only to avoid murdering a Teyrn before a landsmeet.

Makes me wonder, if the PC wasn't not only capitalizing on the emotional impact of the rapid succession of accusations but also using those accusations to cover up a weak counterargument, if the PC could ever have been expected to win the Landsmeet.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Monica21 wrote...

The first time I played through the Landsmeet I made the mistake of questioning his tactics at Ostagar. I never did that again. Surprising that I actually won, come to think of it. And how was Teagan able to get away with it when he wasn't even there?

I personally feel like the civil war had actually very little to do with Ostagar and more to do with "older grudges" as Master Inacio says and Loghain's too aggressive push for regency.

Notice how the civil war is between the coatslands (Highever, Denerim, Gwaren) and the hinterland (Bannorn). I can definately see grudges building between the two for economic reasons and they exploded with a spark.  

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...

Re. Howe, you seriously consider him a "teryn", as a Cousland character no less??

It's irrelevent what I feel. Technically he is a Teyrn.

[Addai]

Monica21 wrote...

The first time I played through the Landsmeet I made the mistake of questioning his tactics at Ostagar. I never did that again. Surprising that I actually won, come to think of it. And how was Teagan able to get away with it when he wasn't even there?

I think Teagan is mostly questioning the fact that Loghain appears in Denerim so quickly, declaring himself as regent and just demanding that everyone accept it.  He's not the only character to do so, including Anora (the "Cailan's body was not even cold" line).

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Re. Howe, you seriously consider him a "teryn", as a Cousland character no less??

It's irrelevent what I feel. Technically he is a Teyrn.

By usurpation, hence not legally.  But that goes back to the fact that Loghain's regency is illegal, too.

What I find ironic and lacking in the Landsmeet dialogue is an opportunity to laugh in Loghain's face and ask him when he planned to bring Howe before a seneschal.  Sometime after he had ceased to find him useful, no doubt.

Modifié par Addai67, 30 août 2010 - 07:24 .

[Zjarcal]

One thing about the Landsmeet that I find illogical is how even if you win the votes you still have to duel Loghain. It's one thing when you lose, Eamon forces a fight and the duel is sought as a way to end the affair without more blodshed. But if you win? Why would you have to duel Loghain to, hmm, win again?

He doesn't force a brawl like Eamon. Sure, he seems reluctant to accept the outcome of the voting but I don't see why the PC couldn't have simply decided his fate right there without the duel.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 30 août 2010 - 07:27 .