Hmm. . .I just finished bringing Loghain back to Ostagar and I must say I'm a bit disappointed. Just as I think that the creators of this DLC went overboard in trying to evoke a sentimental reaction by suddenly making Alistair care deeply for Cailan --when actually he really didn't, according to a regular-game party banter-- I think that they also went out of their way to make Loghain look crabby, callous and spiteful. I understood when he asked my Mage to "keep the moralizing to a minimum" (though a little miffed that he thought it necessary to ask her that before she'd had a chance to say a word), and laughed when his first comment upon entering Ostagar was "This is a fool's errand! Do you know how many Darkspawn there are around here?!?" (Gee, I wonder when he'd last said that in this place. . .); but then he just kept griping and sniping the whole freakin' time. I thought that not having Wynne there would make him a little less sensitive about the whole thing and more prone to be reasonable, but no. Even the finding of Maric's sword, about which he'd been so concerned when talking to Elric, couldn't give him one positive note about the experience. Speaking of notes, I wasn't suprised, of course, when he started screaming about the correspondence he found in Cailan's chest. That made sense to me, and if his anger and bile had peaked at that point I would have gone along with him. Even if he had ridden that anger through the rest of the episode, making references to the contents of those letters when deciding what to do with Cailan's body etc., I would have understood. But he was the exact same level of nasty from beginning to end, and never made another reference to Cailan's dalliance with the Orlesians --just harped on his foolishness about the battle.
I don't know. I know why he was angry, and why he'd still be bitter. But everywhere else in the game, he's tempered that anger and bitterness with good sense. In Denerim, he condoles with the PC for the losses of her fellow Wardens at Ostagar. At the Landsmeet, he accuses Cailan of foolishly getting himself and his army killed but also expresses regret at the loss of Maric's son (and yes, he could have been playing to his audience, but that's more Anora's way, not his). He shows compassion towards Elric and while still pointing out that the battle was ill-conceived and doomed to fail, he understands that this is not Elric's fault. But the second he steps into Ostagar, he becomes this irrepressible ball of rage and takes a good deal of that rage out on the PC. I'm not sure if whoever wrote the script for RtO assumed that Loghain would be taken back there early in his career as a Warden, or by a PC who didn't like him and wanted to drag him back to every point of interest and wag their finger in his face, or what. But I waited until we were getting along pretty well --and until after I had dragged him all kinds of other places, including into mobs of Darkspawn, which had never before given him cause to complain-- so the sudden switch to high-voltage hate mode seemed really out of context.
[EDIT]: Okay, I just did something out of character for me --I looked at a YouTube video of someone else playing RtO. And it looks like I missed out --not only on a lot of Loghain's dialogue, but the bits of dialogue that display his reason-- by not bringing a fourth party member. The person who made the YouTube video had brought Wynne as well as Loghain, so naturally they sniped back and forth a lot, but Loghain's half of the sniping did involve a thought process instead of just a rain of hate. I not only did
not bring Wynne, but the only other companion I brought besides Loghain was Dog, figuring that any fourth companion would probably start with the moralizing and/or finger-wagging. I preferred things to be nice and quiet and dignified, which they weren't. With no one to engage in a dialogue, all Loghain could do was snarl and scream to himself. So, I think I'm going to do something else out of character for me, which is go back and play that whole DLC again but bring a fourth party member this time.
Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 24 octobre 2010 - 08:50 .
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:lol:
You bring a lot of passion to the subject I don't really. Not that I can't say the story hasn't grabbed me. Loghain has taken over my brain!
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