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[Persephone]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Or even in history. Caesar and Cleopatra anyone? 

Cleopatra had Egypt, and Caesar was no less creepy for it.

Was he? I dunno. I have always been into older men myself, so I do not see the creepy factor. :innocent:



All I see is :wub::wub:



RAWR. HAWT!:happy:

Modifié par Persephone, 12 novembre 2010 - 05:33 .

[Addai]

Oooh, then there is Ciaran Hinds, who played Julius Caesar in HBO's "Rome." Talk about RAWR!

Edit:  Now that I think about it, when there was a thread about a Dragon Age movie, Ciaran Hinds was my favorite suggestion to play Loghain.  He has brown eyes, though.  You'd have to give him the "icy blue" contact lenses.


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Modifié par Addai67, 12 novembre 2010 - 05:40 .

[Persephone]

Addai67 wrote...

Oooh, then there is Ciaran Hinds, who played Julius Caesar in HBO's "Rome." Talk about RAWR!

Edit:  Now that I think about it, when there was a thread about a Dragon Age movie, Ciaran Hinds was my favorite suggestion to play Loghain.


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Ah, YES!!! I loved his interpretation of that role. Especially the chemistry he had with Servilia. The way the character is portrayed, he does remind me of Loghain. (Even breaking up with his beloved for duty's sake, AH! Even though I don't see Loghain hitting Rowan.....) He'd be perfect look wise and I just adore his voice. The Ides Of March scene had me sobbing. HBO really portrayed it in a realistic way.

[Sarah1281]

Addai67 wrote...
And if I post too much in here Alistair will find out! 

At least your Loghain is still years away from any of those things Alistair can't forgive him for.

[Dean_the_Young]

Persephone wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Or even in history. Caesar and Cleopatra anyone? 

Cleopatra had Egypt, and Caesar was no less creepy for it.

Was he? I dunno. I have always been into older men myself, so I do not see the creepy factor. :innocent:



All I see is :wub::wub:



RAWR. HAWT!:happy:

You don't see any creep factor of a college-age girl seducing a married man  old enough to be her grand father?

That's the sort of standard you'd keep a Romanced Loghain by?

[Persephone]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Or even in history. Caesar and Cleopatra anyone? 

Cleopatra had Egypt, and Caesar was no less creepy for it.

Was he? I dunno. I have always been into older men myself, so I do not see the creepy factor. :innocent:



All I see is :wub::wub:

RAWR. HAWT!:happy:

You don't see any creep factor of a college-age girl seducing a married man  old enough to be her grand father?

That's the sort of standard you'd keep a Romanced Loghain by?

Well, back then 19 was not what 19 is today. Cleopatra was not a hapless college girl. And neither is the Warden. And if the man in question looks like Rex Harrison or Ciaran Hinds, I'd take him over any pretty boy ala Hollywood in a heartbeat.

Modifié par Persephone, 12 novembre 2010 - 05:52 .

[Addai]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

You don't see any creep factor of a college-age girl seducing a married man  old enough to be her grand father?

That's the sort of standard you'd keep a Romanced Loghain by?

My own story setup is not a Warden, but even with the Warden, by the end of Origins she is head of Ferelden's armies and can be co-ruler of a country.  When I was in college, I... didn't do that.  LOL

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Persephone wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Oooh, then there is Ciaran Hinds, who played Julius Caesar in HBO's "Rome." Talk about RAWR!

Edit:  Now that I think about it, when there was a thread about a Dragon Age movie, Ciaran Hinds was my favorite suggestion to play Loghain.


link

Ah, YES!!! I loved his interpretation of that role. Especially the chemistry he had with Servilia. The way the character is portrayed, he does remind me of Loghain. (Even breaking up with his beloved for duty's sake, AH! Even though I don't see Loghain hitting Rowan.....) He'd be perfect look wise and I just adore his voice. The Ides Of March scene had me sobbing. HBO really portrayed it in a realistic way.
*snip*

Much as I like Ciaran Hinds --and I loved his portrayal of Caesar-- and as much as I think he'd knock the dialogue/emotive bits out of the park as Loghain (and a decent substitute for ST's voice, if such a thing could be imagined), I just have a problem seeing him as an *active* warrior. As Caesar, he's far from sitting in some tent high above the battlefield and being fanned by slaves while the actual fighting happens some miles away, but he's for sure not hacking away at the enemy with Vorenus and Pullo, or even Marc Antony. And whether it was for historical accuracy or physical believability, I think that HBO was wise to keep him at that kind of a distance and not show him actively fighting. I believed that James Purefoy as Antony would rush in and mix it up with the enemy, even if his rank did dictate that he should probably hold back a bit. I wouldn't believe it of Ciaran Hinds. And while a "backseat" mentality would probably make more textbook sense for a general, Loghain --as he states in a banter with Morrigan and amply demonstrates in his fighting style-- lights that book on fire and tosses it down the Denerim Chantry well.

[Persephone]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Oooh, then there is Ciaran Hinds, who played Julius Caesar in HBO's "Rome." Talk about RAWR!

Edit:  Now that I think about it, when there was a thread about a Dragon Age movie, Ciaran Hinds was my favorite suggestion to play Loghain.


link

Ah, YES!!! I loved his interpretation of that role. Especially the chemistry he had with Servilia. The way the character is portrayed, he does remind me of Loghain. (Even breaking up with his beloved for duty's sake, AH! Even though I don't see Loghain hitting Rowan.....) He'd be perfect look wise and I just adore his voice. The Ides Of March scene had me sobbing. HBO really portrayed it in a realistic way.
*snip*

Much as I like Ciaran Hinds --and I loved his portrayal of Caesar-- and as much as I think he'd knock the dialogue/emotive bits out of the park as Loghain (and a decent substitute for ST's voice, if such a thing could be imagined), I just have a problem seeing him as an *active* warrior. As Caesar, he's far from sitting in some tent high above the battlefield and being fanned by slaves while the actual fighting happens some miles away, but he's for sure not hacking away at the enemy with Vorenus and Pullo, or even Marc Antony. And whether it was for historical accuracy or physical believability, I think that HBO was wise to keep him at that kind of a distance and not show him actively fighting. I believed that James Purefoy as Antony would rush in and mix it up with the enemy, even if his rank did dictate that he should probably hold back a bit. I wouldn't believe it of Ciaran Hinds. And while a "backseat" mentality would probably make more textbook sense for a general, Loghain --as he states in a banter with Morrigan and amply demonstrates in his fighting style-- lights that book on fire and tosses it down the Denerim Chantry well.

Good points, those. Even though the historical Caesar was far more like Loghain. He'd often risk his life to fight with his men (They adored him for it!) and his determination to do so often turned the tide around. I could see Loghain do the same. And Caesar did it right up to his last battles when he was 55 and suffering from epilepsy. Brave, brave man.

[Addai]

Yeah, it's possible he's not physical enough. Like with all the DA characters, none of the actors people suggested really nailed it completely.

[Wulfram]

Sean Bean should play Loghain

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, it's possible he's not physical enough. Like with all the DA characters, none of the actors people suggested really nailed it completely.

Yes. . .My nomination for Loghain in terms of face/hair/eyes/demeanor would have been Gabriel Byrne, but from about 10-15 years ago. And even then, he wouldn't have sold me as a warrior.

I think for that and for several other logistical reasons, a DA:O movie would really have to be animated. But then we would be sure to have our Loghains and Alistairs and everyone else exactly the way we want them, and with their proper voices too! :happy:

[Persephone]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, it's possible he's not physical enough. Like with all the DA characters, none of the actors people suggested really nailed it completely.

Yes. . .My nomination for Loghain in terms of face/hair/eyes/demeanor would have been Gabriel Byrne, but from about 10-15 years ago. And even then, he wouldn't have sold me as a warrior.

Why am I thinking of Gerard Butler in "300" now? "This is SPARTA!" *Kicks*

[CalJones]

Gerard Butler's about 10 years too young.

Ciaran Hinds looks good. I think Jason Isaacs could do a good job as well (he's slightly too young at 47, but as Loghain looks young for his age, it could work). He does a good line in baddies and renegade characters, and has the right colouring.

Anyway, Addai - loved the strip. And I love that you have embraced the darkside! (Almost literally).

[Addai]

The voices are the kicker. Somewhere I saw that David Gaider suggested Simon Woods for Alistair- speaking of "Rome"- and that wouldn't have sold me, either. Too wiry, and Steve Valentine just IS the voice of Alistair. I would find Gabriel Byrne too soft-spoken for Loghain, I think.

Nevertheless, Theme of the Day: Sexy, dark-haired older Irishmen. Other theme of the day: I'll be in my bunk! 

Modifié par Addai67, 12 novembre 2010 - 06:30 .

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Persephone wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, it's possible he's not physical enough. Like with all the DA characters, none of the actors people suggested really nailed it completely.

Yes. . .My nomination for Loghain in terms of face/hair/eyes/demeanor would have been Gabriel Byrne, but from about 10-15 years ago. And even then, he wouldn't have sold me as a warrior.

Why am I thinking of Gerard Butler in "300" now? "This is SPARTA!" *Kicks*

Hahaha. . ."THIS IS FERELDEN!!"  Uh. . .perhaps not. Gerard Butler's face makes me wish I knew Shield Bash.

I guess I'm focusing as much on the physicality of anyone we'd attempt to "cast" as Loghain because that was what struck me most about him when I finally got to travel with him as a companion. I was already familiar with his other "signature" traits --broody, scathing, blunt, dark, braids, blue eyes, eyebrows, etc.-- but I guess I was expecting a taciturn, deliberate, logical sort of warrior; someone who would assess the situation and calculate the best move before landing a brutal blow precisely where it was needed. How surprised was I when my Mage saw him repeatedly catapult himself into battle with Dog and start hacking and bashing everything in sight. To return to the Rome reference, it was much more like watching Titus Pullo than Ciaran Hinds's Caesar.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Addai67 wrote...

The voices are the kicker. Somewhere I saw that David Gaider suggested Simon Woods for Alistair- speaking of "Rome"- and that wouldn't have sold me, either.

I've only ever seen Simon Woods in Rome, so I don't know what he's like when he's not playing Gaius Octavian, but based on that performance I'd have to agree that it wouldn't work. Much as I'd enjoy looking at him, he was far too --what's the word, distant? Ethereal? Lofty? Angelic? None of these words do his portrayal justice; he reminded me of that bit in The Fellowship of the Ring in which Galadriel describes what she would be like if she were to claim the Ring and put it on: "Beautiful and terrible as the morning and the night." That scene with Cleopatra in which he negotiates her return to Rome with him was awesome --all he does is stare, and smile, and drop polite phrases into the space between them, and it gives her the screaming horrors. I can't say I blame her. Definitely not our convivial, goofy, cheese-loving Chantry boy in dirty socks.

I would find Gabriel Byrne too soft-spoken for Loghain, I think.

This is true. The characters he plays do often have tempers, but they don't express themselves in as large a way as Loghain does. I'm not sure if Gabriel Byrne could have pulled off the Landsmeet Rant with the same rafter-shaking style.

[Addai]

Woods did play Mr. Bingley in the Keira Knightley version of Pride and Prejudice, so that puts him in Alistair territory as far as Perspehone is concerned! For personality sake, anyway. And I could see that, I guess. He'd have to do a major testosterone load to get the muscled look that the game gives to all human males.



The default game model is actually good for Loghain, I think. He is described as "rawboned", which I picture as big and rangy but lean.

[Persephone]

Addai67 wrote...

Woods did play Mr. Bingley in the Keira Knightley version of Pride and Prejudice, so that puts him in Alistair territory as far as Perspehone is concerned! For personality sake, anyway. And I could see that, I guess. He'd have to do a major testosterone load to get the muscled look that the game gives to all human males.

The default game model is actually good for Loghain, I think. He is described as "rawboned", which I picture as big and rangy but lean.

Ah, that movie.... I hated that version of P&P. I am a 1995 miniseries fangirl. THIS is Mr. Darcy:

(Ah, that rare Mr. Darcy smile!^^)

As for Loghain's looks, I read somewhere that Simon T.'s Cain influenced the design. Is that true?

[CalJones]

That's on the Wiki, and I am not sure how true it is. This is the original Kain (bear in mind this is in the low poly late 90s). In the opening intro, he has black hair before he is killed and turned into a vampire. He doesn't really look like Loghain to me but that's the low polys for you.

[Addai]

Persephone wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Woods did play Mr. Bingley in the Keira Knightley version of Pride and Prejudice, so that puts him in Alistair territory as far as Perspehone is concerned! For personality sake, anyway. And I could see that, I guess. He'd have to do a major testosterone load to get the muscled look that the game gives to all human males.

The default game model is actually good for Loghain, I think. He is described as "rawboned", which I picture as big and rangy but lean.

Ah, that movie.... I hated that version of P&P. I am a 1995 miniseries fangirl. THIS is Mr. Darcy:

*snip*
 
(Ah, that rare Mr. Darcy smile!^^)

As for Loghain's looks, I read somewhere that Simon T.'s Cain influenced the design. Is that true?

Oh me too, me too!  The only things I liked about the Keira Knightley film were the sets, like that country dance and the estate the Bennets lived on.  With honorable mention for Judi Dench. 

Cain??  No idea.  But I just saw that Templeman also voiced Bann Ceorlic, and Mervis in Awakening.  That is lulzy.  He does a good simpering weasel voice. 

[CalJones]

I know he does the "out of my way, fool" mage you find Alistair talking to when you first meet him. And Caladrius, obviously (I know Caladrius is a bad guy and all, but I find him hilarious).

[Addai]

CalJones wrote...

I know he does the "out of my way, fool" mage you find Alistair talking to when you first meet him. And Caladrius, obviously (I know Caladrius is a bad guy and all, but I find him hilarious).

Oh really, he's "the grumpy one"??  I had no idea.

I did know about Caladrius, and yes he's funny.  Swishy and demented.  His comments about Alistair being a bastard are funny.

[Sarah1281]

Persephone wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Woods did play Mr. Bingley in the Keira Knightley version of Pride and Prejudice, so that puts him in Alistair territory as far as Perspehone is concerned! For personality sake, anyway. And I could see that, I guess. He'd have to do a major testosterone load to get the muscled look that the game gives to all human males.

The default game model is actually good for Loghain, I think. He is described as "rawboned", which I picture as big and rangy but lean.

Ah, that movie.... I hated that version of P&P. I am a 1995 miniseries fangirl.

Oh, definitely. When I have time, I really should watch that again as my mom, being a huge Colin Firth fan herself, has the miniseries on DVD. The only thing I liked better about the KK version was that Darcy made it clear that he had left to go help with the Lydia situation instead of making Elizabeth fret about it but given that that movie was only a third of the time, they didn't have time to angst.

CalJones wrote...

I know he does the "out of my way, fool" mage you find Alistair talking to when you first meet him. And Caladrius, obviously (I know Caladrius is a bad guy and all, but I find him hilarious).

I know! I always end up just letting Caladrius go. I know he's an unrepentant blood maging slaver and all but...just the way he asks 'I don't suppose you'll just let me go?' always amuses me too much to turn him down. If I thought that killing him would do anything to even remotely help the situation instead of just being because of his past crimes then I'd kill him but as it is he's just too hilarious.

[Herr Uhl]

Persephone wrote...

Ah, that movie.... I hated that version of P&P. I am a 1995 miniseries fangirl. THIS is Mr. Darcy:

The boredom of my youth.

*shudders*

That is all.