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[Giggles_Manically]

I would play it then.



Nothing beats watching an army you built up advancing on some poor slobs who get in your way.

I hope the rumors are true about Shogun 2 since it seems much more personal and in depth.



It seems that you can chose how to educate your generals and family, can level your agents like you want, and create custom leaders as you want.



Shogun 2 is really looking good right now.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...
Nothing beats watching an army you built up advancing on some poor slobs who get in your way.

Nothing beats you standing on a hill with your elite cavalry, watching proudly as your army is marching in discipline towards the enemy without fear, until you sieze the opportunity you were waiting for and charge out with your cavalry and flank the poor sods. (EDIT ok thinking about it in a military sense, this makes little sense, it would be better to hide your cavalry behind the hill, but you get my point).

And nothing beats you parading in you city after your victory with your people cheering for you, and using your new found popularity to out-maneuvre and eliminate a few domestic rivals.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:21 .

[Giggles_Manically]

How many people can you have in an army at one time Knight in M&B?



I had a mod that allows for a full 8000 vs 8000 battle in RTW.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

How many people can you have in an army at one time Knight in M&B?

I had a mod that allows for a full 8000 vs 8000 battle in RTW.

I currently have high renown, high charisma and max leadership and I can only have 170 men in my personal army (yea yea, I rp that it's actually 17000, I add 2 zeroes to everything). OF course that's not how many soldiers my Empire has, as I have lords with their own armies and large garrisons.

If a battle involves several lords, then with mods, up to 500 men can show up at the same time (if armies have more than that, they come as reinforcements). The mod can allow for a thousand, but anything above 500 is nto recomended (I dare not imagine how sieges would be if they had 1000 men).

It might sound very little, but in the battle itself, it's quite a lot, considering that you personally lead them on the ground. 

But I'd love a game where you can actually command thousands on a battlefield.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:43 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Yeah there is no feeing like watching a great plan work out well.



Like for me:

I held the Seleucids in place with my Urban Cohorts and swung the rest of the infantry out and squeezed them.

Then like Hannibal I brought in my calvary and trampled the few survivors.



That ended a very annoying foe.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I know what you mean. I can't even imagine how Hannibal felt after his brilliant victory at Cannae. Was he happy? Proud? Tired? Hard to say.

Sort of like asking how Loghain felt after the River Dane. Though I would not compare Loghain with Hannibal, as much as I like him.

[Giggles_Manically]

Hannibal slaughtered tens of thousands of roman soldiers over and over again, yet never could kill quite enough.



Although his battle plans were pretty similar in many ways, but he did know his foes.

Too bad Scipio knew his foes just as well at Zama.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Scipio did what Hannibal didn't. He brutally massacred New Carthage, while Hannibal didn't march on Rome. He had his reasons, but he wasted an opportunity.

But of course for me, the people that are the most responsible for Carthage's defeat are, once again, nobles.

[Giggles_Manically]

Yep.



Hannibal could have probably defeated Rome but thanks to self absorbed nobles he got ham strung.

The more he won the more they hated him, but if he ever lost they would tear him down.

[Costin_Razvan]

In Shogun 2 apparently you will be able to command to almost 25.000 at the same time



Awesome.



In NTW you can command as many as 3.2 k.

[Giggles_Manically]

What I am looking forward too though is the siege battles.

That and the AI being very smart right now.



One of the reviewers was rushed by it and got destroyed by a feint.

Sounds like Shogun 2 is offering up some actual AI opponents now.



Unlike in Rome when a phalanx would break up to chase after random units.....



Oh and I cant wait to see the new ability to tweak generals and agents to your liking.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Hmmm, maybe I will check Shogun 2 out. But I want Rome 2!

[Giggles_Manically]

Me too.



It makes sense that the next game will be Rome 2.

There is a sequel for every other TW game besides it.

[Costin_Razvan]

I would want World War I, or hell even 2.



Conquering the entire world as Romania would be epic for me at least.

[Giggles_Manically]

There are some games that try to show WW2.



Although WW2 games have been made a lot.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I would want World War I, or hell even 2.

Conquering the entire world as Romania would be epic for me at least.

If a bit unrealistic lol
I wouldn't mind playing a game where Arabs conquer the world, but at least in the middle ages where it would make sense lol.

A World War 2 total war game would be very hard to pull off, but it would be awesome.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Breaking news!

The Kingdom of Nords declared war on me! And that's despite having max relations with me. I guess it's like what Costin says, no one likes a powerful neighbor. I didn't think the game could actually have that. Someone with a maxed relationship declaring war on you regardless. They even signed a defensive treaty with the Khergits, so I guess they see me as a greater threat. I am somewhat surprised that the Khergits didn't go in and side with the Nords. Perhaps they wanted to wait and see.

Anyways, the war was brief, but bloody and epic. I took from them 4 castles. They are very important, as they secure my northern borders (and my capital), which had always been lacking before (I had only one castle in that area).

Also, there was an epic battle near my capital, next to the village of Emirin. ~2500 Nords vs ~1200 Naserites (my character's title is Al Naser / the victorious). So the way I rp it with added 2 zeros, it's 250.000 vs 120.000. It's almost unfeasibly epic. In fact it was so large that it was fought in several stages. They got annihilated pretty badly and we sustained relatively few casualties and then went on to conquer the castles. Sigh, epic and something Loghain would have been proud of.
I wish I could take screenshots, but I was too busy issuing orders. It was really intense. The Nords have the most powerful heavy infantry and any slight mistake would have cost me dearly.

Here's the map with the territorial changes. The circles indicate the castles I just took. The cross is where the epic Battle of Emirin took place.



So now you'd think that I can strike at Rhodok and secure my South-Western border. The brilliantly sly Khergits however just signed a defensive pact with them, so they are obligated to defend each other. So dealing with any of them will involve a two front war unless I wait till this pact expires (a month from now). And to make matters worse, the Sarranids for some reason signed a defensive pact with the Rhodoks too. Sly foxes.

Seeing all this happening, I made a truce with the kingdom of Nords (even if I could have taken from them at least a city, but I don't want to risk a two front war or worse a three front one). So now, hopefully the Nords will invade the Khergits to recuperate their losses. The Rhodoks are far from them, they wouldn't be that much of a threat. Especially not if I seize the opportunity and declare war on them.

And now I have to allocate our newly conquered fiefs to a few of my lords, which is going to please a few and anger many. Nothing that a nice feast wouldn't cure though.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 18 janvier 2011 - 01:38 .

[Giggles_Manically]

@KoP.



Sweet job right there my friend.

Way to humiliate an foe like that, but why not just keep pummeling them if you can?

I mean they attacked you unprovoked so you should be free to teach them a very costly lesson.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I wanted to teach those sea raiders to stick with the coasts, but I am really paranoid about the Khergits. They are not doing anything and that's what scares me.

I had spies in the Nordic kingdom (and everywhere else) and I know that they have large garrisons in the heartlands. Plus, the road to Sargoth and Tihr are blocked by rivers and we have to travel some way to reach the bridges. Plus, fighting a large battle and taking four castles weakened my army and those of my lords and my food supplies were running low.

So if I get bogged down there, the Khergits might declare war on me. They are a mongol like faction, all their units are mounted. That makes them very fast on the map and I might not be able to respond quickly enough. I had just taken those castles, they have very small garrisons and I didn't assign them to lords yet. With their speed, they could just blaze through and take them. Even worse, everyone else might decide to join the party. I mean, I kind of have lands every faction claims for itself.

So I decided against it. I prefer to be prudent and vigilant. And I did something that I am almost sure Costin would disapprove of. I had the Nordic Marshal prisoner, but I let him go. He kind of liked me and now, because I released him, he likes me more. So I hoped that either he would defect and join me, or at the very least it would brew discontentment within the Nords.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 18 janvier 2011 - 02:08 .

[Giggles_Manically]

That is not going to resolve anything though really in any definitive manner.



But it does sound like you need a big breather after wiping out that invasion and taking some land.

Really though all the other countries seem to be holding you by the throat with their allying with the Rhodok.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Patience. I am not in a hurry. Just now, two lords defected to me, one from the Nords and one from Rhodok. Time is on my side. 4 of my 8 cities rank as very rich and I dominate trade. Protracted wars are bad for business and my government is very plutocratic.

And yes, they are clever, they know those pesky Rhodoks are my weak link. The other three are relatively close to each other, I can afford to wage a war against them on multiple fronts. The Rhodoks however are literally are thorn in my back.

[Giggles_Manically]

When I play an RTS I usually am very slow to expand and hesitate to engage in open wars.



Sometimes though you do have to take a big risk to move ahead in a game. When I was playing Rome TW Spain had been pestering me for decades and then they sided with the Seleucids and Egypt on me.



From the East I had two massive forces moving in, and from the west I had Spain fighting me.

I took a risk and went into Spain with every available soldier I could and smashed them, even though I needed troops to fight the Egyptians near Israel, and the Seleucids on Asia Minor.



Building strength is very good, but letting your foes run off to lick their wounds is a dangerous thing to do.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...
Building strength is very good, but letting your foes run off to lick their wounds is a dangerous thing to do.

Very true.
But here I have a faction (Khergits) that I don't know what it wants. They are fresh, they haven't fought any wars in months and they are right next to me.

If it was only between me and the Nords, I would have pressed on and squeezed them. Even if it was only the Nords and Rhodoks, I would have done so too. But it's those damned Khergits. It's like those Mongol wannabes know that I am an Arab and know how to scare me.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 18 janvier 2011 - 02:46 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I HATE Calvary archers.



OH god in Rome they are so nasty.

That is until they ran into my Urban Cohorts and Cretan Archers....



Bastards never stood a chance.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Romans never had to deal with Mongols. You know how scary they were when 800 years later, we are still scared of them.