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[Daryn Mercio]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Daryn Mercio wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

And that's kind of sad. It's completely different if you feel Alistair is right or whatever but killing someone you would otherwise spare because you'd rather Alistair stay in the party (or don't want to make him mad) or for the even worse reason of 'Oh, I don't want to lose my tank'...it's very shallow.

I was going to spare Loghain, then I realized he was a nutjob that abandoned his brothers in arms in the face of fear. Not to mention it seems pointless to allow him to live, considering if you let him live and become a warden, Alistair leaves the wardens, so not only are you back to where you were, having only Riordan, yourself, and another warden, you are pushed back based on Loghains inexperience of being a warden.

Yeah, that's really a better reason than just wanting to please someone else.

Alistair is cool, a good fighter, and nice comic relief, but I couldn't care less whether or not he whines about killing Loghain. I kill him every single time without fail except once, and I reloaded and old save to overwrite the one time I allowed him to live because I didn't actually want to let him live.

[Daryn Mercio]

jln.francisco wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Daryn Mercio wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

And that's kind of sad. It's completely different if you feel Alistair is right or whatever but killing someone you would otherwise spare because you'd rather Alistair stay in the party (or don't want to make him mad) or for the even worse reason of 'Oh, I don't want to lose my tank'...it's very shallow.

I was going to spare Loghain, then I realized he was a nutjob that abandoned his brothers in arms in the face of fear. Not to mention it seems pointless to allow him to live, considering if you let him live and become a warden, Alistair leaves the wardens, so not only are you back to where you were, having only Riordan, yourself, and another warden, you are pushed back based on Loghains inexperience of being a warden.

Yeah, that's really a better reason than just wanting to please someone else.

Not always. A few of my male Warden's did a lot of things just to please Morrigan. Never killed Loghain to please Alistair but I can imagine a few characters who might.

I pleased Morrigan by making my Warden how I am. IRL, I'd never spare a traitorous bastard like Loghain, and I follow a similar philosophy of survival of the fittest and whatnot.
I enjoy killing Loghain to be honest, it gives me a sense of satisfaction that you never cross my Warden and live

[Persephone]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

Yeah, yeesh! The whole "Well, it's a toughie but if I don't smear his guts all over his daughter's face, Alistaaaaaaair will leave meeeeee!" (Exaggerated) scenario pisses me off to no end. I understand CE Wardens wanting to kill the Teyrn, just one example. But to allow it, merely because a supposed lover/friend (Who'll either leave in an immature huff or ditch you if you're nor noble born...irony there?) blackmails you into it? No way. I like Alistair. But he lost most of what little respect I had for him right then and there. Violence solves nothing. I especially refuse to kill an enemy who surrendered. (The Slaver being a seldom exception, given his warped offer to bribe me into it) Sorry, Alistair, your "Have fun ending the blight...or whatever!" line shows why I won't let you have your way here.

*Runs from the Alistair fangals*

[Persephone]

Daryn Mercio wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Daryn Mercio wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

And that's kind of sad. It's completely different if you feel Alistair is right or whatever but killing someone you would otherwise spare because you'd rather Alistair stay in the party (or don't want to make him mad) or for the even worse reason of 'Oh, I don't want to lose my tank'...it's very shallow.

I was going to spare Loghain, then I realized he was a nutjob that abandoned his brothers in arms in the face of fear. Not to mention it seems pointless to allow him to live, considering if you let him live and become a warden, Alistair leaves the wardens, so not only are you back to where you were, having only Riordan, yourself, and another warden, you are pushed back based on Loghains inexperience of being a warden.

Yeah, that's really a better reason than just wanting to please someone else.

Alistair is cool, a good fighter, and nice comic relief, but I couldn't care less whether or not he whines about killing Loghain. I kill him every single time without fail except once, and I reloaded and old save to overwrite the one time I allowed him to live because I didn't actually want to let him live.

Don't you at least want to see how things play out? There are a lot of great, intense and even funny moments involving Loghain. Plus one of the most moving endings ever. Just saying...

[Spartas Husky]

Persephone wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

Yeah, yeesh! The whole "Well, it's a toughie but if I don't smear his guts all over his daughter's face, Alistaaaaaaair will leave meeeeee!" (Exaggerated) scenario pisses me off to no end. I understand CE Wardens wanting to kill the Teyrn, just one example. But to allow it, merely because a supposed lover/friend (Who'll either leave in an immature huff or ditch you if you're nor noble born...irony there?) blackmails you into it? No way. I like Alistair. But he lost most of what little respect I had for him right then and there. Violence solves nothing. I especially refuse to kill an enemy who surrendered. (The Slaver being a seldom exception, given his warped offer to bribe me into it) Sorry, Alistair, your "Have fun ending the blight...or whatever!" line shows why I won't let you have your way here.

*Runs from the Alistair fangals*

But Loghain is a slaver....amongst many other things.

[Persephone]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

Yeah, yeesh! The whole "Well, it's a toughie but if I don't smear his guts all over his daughter's face, Alistaaaaaaair will leave meeeeee!" (Exaggerated) scenario pisses me off to no end. I understand CE Wardens wanting to kill the Teyrn, just one example. But to allow it, merely because a supposed lover/friend (Who'll either leave in an immature huff or ditch you if you're nor noble born...irony there?) blackmails you into it? No way. I like Alistair. But he lost most of what little respect I had for him right then and there. Violence solves nothing. I especially refuse to kill an enemy who surrendered. (The Slaver being a seldom exception, given his warped offer to bribe me into it) Sorry, Alistair, your "Have fun ending the blight...or whatever!" line shows why I won't let you have your way here.

*Runs from the Alistair fangals*

But Loghain is a slaver....amongst many other things.

Nope. He is a ruler who endorsed slavery in his country. There is a difference. In my eyes, anyway. Queen Elizabeth I. endorsed slavery. Have yet to meet a historian who calls her a slaver.

[Spartas Husky]

.....ok I guess. Potatoes. Potatos

He did not sold drugs... he just gave the ingridients, materials, work space, etc to those who actually sold the drugs for a cut of the profits... but that doesn't make him a drug dealer.....

A military maniac, is not responsible for the massacer of an entire nation... he just told his generals to do that.... which...

I guess we are at an impass again, potatos potatoes . .....you know what nvm, let start over...
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Hi I am Julian nice to meet you lol



Either way he is a very... interesting character, a love hate feeling, which means good writting

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 16 août 2010 - 04:35 .

[CalJones]

I actually do spare Caladrius more often than not, and quite often I let Vaughan live (though I usually leave him locked up and steal his money, heh). There are other characters I let go as well. It's just a personal thing, really - not wanting to kill someone who has surrendered. I tend to play my wardens as people who want to end the Blight rather than avenging angles. Heck, my Cousland might even spare Howe if he got on his knees and surrendered, but the old sod wants to go down fighting. Deep down, I may actually be a bit of a softie. Just don't tell Leliana.

[Sarah1281]

CalJones wrote...

I actually do spare Caladrius more often than not, and quite often I let Vaughan live (though I usually leave him locked up and steal his money, heh). There are other characters I let go as well. It's just a personal thing, really - not wanting to kill someone who has surrendered. I tend to play my wardens as people who want to end the Blight rather than avenging angles. Heck, my Cousland might even spare Howe if he got on his knees and surrendered, but the old sod wants to go down fighting. Deep down, I may actually be a bit of a softie. Just don't tell Leliana.

None of my characters but my first (who had no idea who he was) actually spared Vaughan but my non-elves spare Caladrius. They're just not that concerned with the slaving since he did have legal permission for it and it was legal in Tevinter. They don't like it but he wasn't the only one involved and it's not like killing someone who could easily be replaced and who was leaving anyway would do much. My elves don't think killing him would really change anything either but, as elves, they're personally invested in this (on a species level if not CE) and so want to kill him anyway. 

Not to mention the way he's like 'I don't suppose you would consider just letting me go?' always amuses me.

[phaonica]

I killed Caladrius in both my main playthroughs. Neither of my characters thought they had any reason to believe he'd stop being a slaver if I spared him. It might be acceptable where he comes from, but he knew good and well that it wasn't acceptable in Ferelden. And I don't know about the legality of it, I mean, if the power of the "King" comes from the Landsmeet and they didn't seem to happy about it when they found out.

Edit: And I hit submit too early.

Also, I think it would have been interesting to have been allowed the option to spare Howe.

Modifié par phaonica, 16 août 2010 - 05:54 .

[Xetirox]

CalJones wrote...

I actually do spare Caladrius more often than not, and quite often I let Vaughan live (though I usually leave him locked up and steal his money, heh). There are other characters I let go as well. It's just a personal thing, really - not wanting to kill someone who has surrendered. I tend to play my wardens as people who want to end the Blight rather than avenging angles. Heck, my Cousland might even spare Howe if he got on his knees and surrendered, but the old sod wants to go down fighting. Deep down, I may actually be a bit of a softie. Just don't tell Leliana.

Caladrius does not "surrender." To surrender would imply laying down your arms peacefully and accepting your opponent's terms for what they should do with you (namely, allow them to take you into custody). All Cal does, once it becomes apparent he's met his match and is not going to get out of this alive, is try to bribe you further. If you refuse that, then he begs for you to let him run. Refuse that...and he continues to fight with the paltry health he's got left. Any character of mine not tempted by his offers and with even a feeling of disturbance of the slavery in the Alienage lops his head off. If he doesn't want me to kill him, then he's gotta' come with me and do what I tell him; having the actual slaver (and a maleficar to boot!) with a full confession would have been useful at the Landsmeet; you can never have too much dirt on your enemy.

Modifié par Xetirox, 16 août 2010 - 05:57 .

[Sarah1281]

Xetirox wrote...

CalJones wrote...

I actually do spare Caladrius more often than not, and quite often I let Vaughan live (though I usually leave him locked up and steal his money, heh). There are other characters I let go as well. It's just a personal thing, really - not wanting to kill someone who has surrendered. I tend to play my wardens as people who want to end the Blight rather than avenging angles. Heck, my Cousland might even spare Howe if he got on his knees and surrendered, but the old sod wants to go down fighting. Deep down, I may actually be a bit of a softie. Just don't tell Leliana.

Caladrius does not "surrender." To surrender would imply laying down your arms peacefully and accepting your opponent's terms for what they should do with you (namely, allow them to take you into custody). All Cal does, once it becomes apparent he's met his match and is not going to get out of this alive, is try to bribe you further. If you refuse that, then he begs for you to let him run. Refuse that...and he continues to fight with the paltry health he's got left. Any character of mine not tempted by his offers and with even a feeling of disturbance of the slavery in the Alienage lops his head off. If he doesn't want me to kill him, then he's gotta' come with me and do what I tell him; having the actual slaver (and a maleficar to boot!) with a full confession would have been useful at the Landsmeet; you can never have too much dirt on your enemy.

Of course he surrenders. You can surrender after losing, you know. It means giving up not giving up before you start. He has no reason to believe that four people can take out his dozen or so. Once it's clear that you can, he surrenders. Yes, he offers to sacrifice the elves to strengthen you which is kind of a stupid move if your stated reason for not working with him in the first place was for the sake of the elves but he doesn't think after losing the fight you'll just let him go free so he's trying to give you an incentive for not killing him. I have no problem with this form of 'bribery' to save his life although the terms of it bothers me. In other words, I'm not done to sacrificing the elves but the fact that he's looking for motivation to convince you to spare him is fine. At this point, you've beaten him, you can kill him, you can take back the elves. If you turn down his blood magic ritual he literally has nothing to offer you so he's stuck with just asking you to spare him.

I'm not condoning his being a slaver (although I do take issue with the idea that while it is legal in his country and he was allowed by the leader of Ferelden to do his business that he should have some moral issue with following the leader endorsing something illegal) or saying everyone should spare him but the idea that he doesn't surrender is ridiculous. Maybe his second terms of 'I'll do a blood magic ritual if you want me to but I really just want to live' aren't good enough for you but he's not actually asking for anything at this point but his life and he does surrender.

Edit: Also, terms of surrender are often negotiated and one party doesn't mindlessly give into the second party's initial demands. Maybe it would have been in Caladrius' best interest in the short term to volunteer to go into your custody so you won't kill him but he'd just end up dead in Fort Drakon if he did so why should he agree to that? A surrender is supposed to benefit both parties even if it's more in the favor of the party being surrendered to. If the terms of the surrender are worse than someone fighting to death (like being tortured to death in Fort Drakon would be) then you can hardly blame them for choosing to fight instead.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 16 août 2010 - 06:13 .

[CalJones]

Heh, I must admit I like the character - his feigned civility amuses me. Of course he's a scumbag, and he really doesn't seem repentant in the slightest, so the justification to kill him is there, but I don't usually take it. My elves have killed him, obviously, as have a few of my humans, but as a rule I just let him go.

[Dean_the_Young]

What's feigned about it? Plenty of slave holders throughout history have been known to be pretty civil, intelligent, wise and generous people... outside of the slaves, of course.

[Baiolit]

In my opinion Loghain is one of the most complex, well thought out, and perfectly executed characters I have ever seen in a game. I think that political influence and what he felt as necessity are what drove him to such extremes as to poison Arl Eamon and sell elves into slavery. He made mistakes and he did get corrupted, and I wasn't happy to see that.

The only decision he made that I felt was justified and logical was (queue flame) abandoning Cailan in the Battle of Ostagar. Seriously lets face it, there is no way in HELL that a few hundred soldiers could break the entire horde in one battle. Unfortunately he let his hate of Orlesians blind him, because he could have avoided the entire betrayal had he let Cailan bring in the Orlesian Wardens.

[LobselVith8]

Spartas Husky wrote...

wait when does Loghain says " I asked Anora"???

I just dont get why some Like him... if you fenshu or w/e is called the psycotic patriotism, blind arrogance aside, the he killed his daughter's husband aside.... then yeah he is sort of.... not good but you can understand him.... but!!!... female players!!!!! he sold women into slavery... kids!!! man if I had the option I would cut his balls off, and sell them to a krogan.... or a dwarf in this game I guess it would translate to.

I actually understood his point after Ostagar... didn't like him but understood him and respected him in a way.... but that all went zipo when I saw the elves being sold into slavery just because he didn't want to loose to me.

Considering he came up with the plan (which was based on a strategy he used in Gwaren) I think Loghain bares blame for the failure at Ostagar. It's the reason Alistair wants him dead at the Landsmeet (in addition to trying to kill them, selling people as slaves, ect.) While I can understand why many see the suffering he endured during the Orlesian occupation, and his part in liberating Ferelden, I don't think it excuses all of the crimes he committed during his insurrection.

Persephone wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

Yeah, yeesh! The whole "Well, it's a toughie but if I don't smear his guts all over his daughter's face, Alistaaaaaaair will leave meeeeee!" (Exaggerated) scenario pisses me off to no end. I understand CE Wardens wanting to kill the Teyrn, just one example. But to allow it, merely because a supposed lover/friend (Who'll either leave in an immature huff or ditch you if you're nor noble born...irony there?) blackmails you into it? No way. I like Alistair. But he lost most of what little respect I had for him right then and there. Violence solves nothing. I especially refuse to kill an enemy who surrendered. (The Slaver being a seldom exception, given his warped offer to bribe me into it) Sorry, Alistair, your "Have fun ending the blight...or whatever!" line shows why I won't let you have your way here.

*Runs from the Alistair fangals*

But Loghain is a slaver....amongst many other things.

Nope. He is a ruler who endorsed slavery in his country. There is a difference. In my eyes, anyway. Queen Elizabeth I. endorsed slavery. Have yet to meet a historian who calls her a slaver.

I think the argument can be made that he's a regicide who is in a contested position of authority in a nation that does not legally permit slavery. Even as Anora's Regent, the Landsmeet makes it clear that slavery is illegal and he had no right to sell people to Tevinter slavers.

[Sarah1281]

Considering he came up with the plan (which was based on a strategy he used in Gwaren) I think Loghain bares blame for the failure at Ostagar.

If Cailan ordered him to come up with a battle plan then he would have had to have come up with a plan even if he knew full well that it wasn't a good enough one to win with the forces they had to work with but it was the best he could do under the circumstances. Just because he made the plan doesn't mean it was going to be enough. Not to mention that the plan was crafted with less darkspawn in mind.

[Daryn Mercio]

Persephone wrote...

Daryn Mercio wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Daryn Mercio wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

And that's kind of sad. It's completely different if you feel Alistair is right or whatever but killing someone you would otherwise spare because you'd rather Alistair stay in the party (or don't want to make him mad) or for the even worse reason of 'Oh, I don't want to lose my tank'...it's very shallow.

I was going to spare Loghain, then I realized he was a nutjob that abandoned his brothers in arms in the face of fear. Not to mention it seems pointless to allow him to live, considering if you let him live and become a warden, Alistair leaves the wardens, so not only are you back to where you were, having only Riordan, yourself, and another warden, you are pushed back based on Loghains inexperience of being a warden.

Yeah, that's really a better reason than just wanting to please someone else.

Alistair is cool, a good fighter, and nice comic relief, but I couldn't care less whether or not he whines about killing Loghain. I kill him every single time without fail except once, and I reloaded and old save to overwrite the one time I allowed him to live because I didn't actually want to let him live.

Don't you at least want to see how things play out? There are a lot of great, intense and even funny moments involving Loghain. Plus one of the most moving endings ever. Just saying...

I did play through until the battle with the Archdemon.
My favorite part having Loghain is short lived
"Excuse me, mr loghain sir?"
"Yes?"
"I am the one you hired to assassinate our warden here"
"Oh yes, I thought you looked familiar"
"I just wanted to let you know I failed"
"Well thanks for notifying me"

[Addai]

Persephone wrote...

Nope. He is a ruler who endorsed slavery in his country. There is a difference. In my eyes, anyway. Queen Elizabeth I. endorsed slavery. Have yet to meet a historian who calls her a slaver.

Loghain contracted the slavery to benefit his war chest and in contradiction of Fereldan law.  That makes him directly complicit.  Just because he didn't go out to the alienage and personally drag people from their homes doesn't mean that he wasn't the head thug in the operation.

Modifié par Addai67, 16 août 2010 - 04:42 .

[Addai]

Persephone wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

Yeah, yeesh! The whole "Well, it's a toughie but if I don't smear his guts all over his daughter's face, Alistaaaaaaair will leave meeeeee!" (Exaggerated) scenario pisses me off to no end. I understand CE Wardens wanting to kill the Teyrn, just one example. But to allow it, merely because a supposed lover/friend (Who'll either leave in an immature huff or ditch you if you're nor noble born...irony there?) blackmails you into it? No way. I like Alistair. But he lost most of what little respect I had for him right then and there. Violence solves nothing. I especially refuse to kill an enemy who surrendered. (The Slaver being a seldom exception, given his warped offer to bribe me into it) Sorry, Alistair, your "Have fun ending the blight...or whatever!" line shows why I won't let you have your way here.

*Runs from the Alistair fangals*

Well as you admit, you're exaggerating, and rather condescendingly so.  As I said upthread, give your fellow players a little credit.  People who like Alistair probably agree with his outlook, so the fact that being an Alistair fan and offing Loghain more often than not go together is not necessarily excessive fangirlism.  Your "except for Caladrius" doesn't make a lot of sense, BTW.

Loghain committed numerous offenses that in a medievalish setting warrant his execution.  Alistair has perfectly sound logic as far as I'm concerned, though there is also logic for siding with Riordan.  Loghain certainly has no qualms about executing not just the Warden, but Alistair and Eamon, too, if it goes the other way.  The duel is really a separate matter than the execution, in my view.

I'll give Loghain this, he takes it like a man either way.  If I'd have had the option, I would have at least had him executed in private with more dignity.  There is justification for a public execution, though, considering the fact that you're trying to put down a civil war.

Modifié par Addai67, 16 août 2010 - 04:52 .

[MKDAWUSS]

I'm curious as to how many would have taken an "imprisonment" option to Loghain's fate? I thought that would have been one option instead of the two seemingly extremes presented in the game.

[Sarah1281]

Addai67 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of people have said:
I was going to spare Loghain and then Alistair said NO, then I went oh OK!
And then killed him!

Yeah, yeesh! The whole "Well, it's a toughie but if I don't smear his guts all over his daughter's face, Alistaaaaaaair will leave meeeeee!" (Exaggerated) scenario pisses me off to no end. I understand CE Wardens wanting to kill the Teyrn, just one example. But to allow it, merely because a supposed lover/friend (Who'll either leave in an immature huff or ditch you if you're nor noble born...irony there?) blackmails you into it? No way. I like Alistair. But he lost most of what little respect I had for him right then and there. Violence solves nothing. I especially refuse to kill an enemy who surrendered. (The Slaver being a seldom exception, given his warped offer to bribe me into it) Sorry, Alistair, your "Have fun ending the blight...or whatever!" line shows why I won't let you have your way here.

*Runs from the Alistair fangals*

Well as you admit, you're exaggerating, and rather condescendingly so.  As I said upthread, give your fellow players a little credit.  People who like Alistair probably agree with his outlook, so the fact that being an Alistair fan and offing Loghain more often than not go together is not necessarily excessive fangirlism.  Your "except for Caladrius" doesn't make a lot of sense, BTW.

Loghain committed numerous offenses that in a medievalish setting warrant his execution.  Alistair has perfectly sound logic as far as I'm concerned, though there is also logic for siding with Riordan.  Loghain certainly has no qualms about executing not just the Warden, but Alistair and Eamon, too, if it goes the other way.  The duel is really a separate matter than the execution, in my view.

I'll give Loghain this, he takes it like a man either way.  If I'd have had the option, I would have at least had him executed in private with more dignity.  There is justification for a public execution, though, considering the fact that you're trying to put down a civil war.

No one is saying that everyone who kills Loghain does so just to please Alistair. There are people who say that Alistair is their reason that they kill him (some even say they would spare him if it didn't mean losing him). Maybe they also have non-Alistair reasons to do so but if they specifically cite Alistair as the only reason mentioned to kill him then it's not exaggerating to say that some people do do that.

There are people who have said that they would love to spare Loghain but they've spent the whole game building Alistair's stats and Loghain's suck so they kill him for purely game mechanic reasons. Acknowledging this isn't being condescending. Some people don't RP as deeply or don't care enough about the decision to let petty things like stats or not wanting a party member to get mad at you (and if it's just that and not thinking he's right or deserves vengeance then it is petty) be their motivator. That doesn't apply to you and it doesn't apply to many others who kill Loghain and like Alistair but it does apply to some people and THEY are who we were talking about.

[Addai]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I'm curious as to how many would have taken an "imprisonment" option to Loghain's fate? I thought that would have been one option instead of the two seemingly extremes presented in the game.

If either side had ended up in prison, it would have been a death sentence anyway once the horde showed up.

Plus IMO it's more realistic in the setting that the losers in a coup, having been accused of high treason, would have to die, be it the Warden or Loghain.  The GW thing throws in a wild card, similar to going to the Wall in SoIaF, because it's a death sentence in itself, but what is the use of putting a man like Loghain in prison?  If you're going to spare him, put him to use.

Modifié par Addai67, 16 août 2010 - 07:18 .

[Monica21]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I'm curious as to how many would have taken an "imprisonment" option to Loghain's fate? I thought that would have been one option instead of the two seemingly extremes presented in the game.

Eh, if I could keep them both I would. Interesting party dynamics to be sure.