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alschemid

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Persephone wrote...
Knowing this cameo was coming got me through the bugfest called Awakening. :wub:

When I was playing Awakening, actually more cursing the DLC than playing, I didn't know he would appear ... when I got him standing there... I turned all teen again: "Oh my god!! he is here... go talk to him... no, no, wait save the game first!! *makes another save and stares at him for a long time*... he is here, awww!....oh! yes I should talk to him...*stares at him a little longer*". 
After going through all his dialogue many times, I went cursing the DLC again, in the end they said the warden dissappeared... mine went to Montsimmard...to dissapear into Loghain's underwears...:P

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alschemid wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Knowing this cameo was coming got me through the bugfest called Awakening. :wub:

When I was playing Awakening, actually more cursing the DLC than playing, I didn't know he would appear ... when I got him standing there... I turned all teen again: "Oh my god!! he is here... go talk to him... no, no, wait save the game first!! *makes another save and stares at him for a long time*... he is here, awww!....oh! yes I should talk to him...*stares at him a little longer*". 
After going through all his dialogue many times, I went cursing the DLC again, in the end they said the warden dissappeared... mine went to Montsimmard...to dissapear into Loghain's underwears...:P






Oh, bless you, child! I needed that laugh this morning.

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This was my approach as well.  I was always interested in the charismatic individuals.  Lately I am more interested in the lives of ordinary people.  Kings come and go.  Folk ways come and go, too, but much, much more slowly, and ultimately I find them more interesting.  Fortunately for me, a lot of work in western medieval history has been done in this area in the past couple decades, trawling through birth and death records, wills, that kind of thing, also archaeology.  Atm I'm reading an account of the archaelogical dig at Towton, site of one of Britain's bloodiest battles, during the War of the Roses.  Such savagery over such petty things...

Anyway, what will you do when you're done?  Teach?


Yea, I am interested in social dynamics too. But all in all, I have a broader political perspective. I see society as a political factor.

Not sure what I am going to do exactly. Teaching is likely, either here, or USA, or back home. And / or maybe something else that is more activist.

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Know what is funny?



Listening to the Landsmeet Loghain has a better VO then anyone else in the room.

Its like here is Simon T, and well a bunch of decent VO artists.



Not that anyone was bad there, it was just that well Simon T outshines anyone in a scene for me.

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Yeah he does. It was at Landsmeet that I decided that Loghain was pretty much awesome and far more interesting than the other characters.



@Skadi - I just got back from a weekend at my godparents. They have a nice one eyed cat - they don't know how she lost the eye as she was a stray who moved into their barn and they eventually tamed. She has landed on her feet, though, as she gets lots of love and pampering.

Animals are pretty resiliant - they don't have the same angst if they get injured - they just get on with it, and so long as they get plenty of kindness, they do just fine.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

I agree on the life of ordinary folk, it is something I always tried to look for, because there is precious little info on it in History. Peasants and msot commoners could not read or write, and the people who could seldom ever recording the doings of the average person. But like you, I am fascinated by people in history who were exceptional in someway, beyond the common motives of simple power and expansion. People with unique visions, talents, and personalities, who were extraordinary in some fashion. It's such gems of humanity that make history actually worth reading about.

It forces you to stick to those eras and areas where there are written records, so I've been reading a lot more about early modern Britain than I ever did before (I was a German lit major and more interested in early medieval) but nonetheless it's fascinating.  Some of the good studies like this I've read recently are Eamon Duffy and Barbara Hanewalt.  Thank the history gods for anal retentive medieval recordkeepers.   Hanewalt's study relies mostly on death rolls- which is very :crying: sometimes, especially the child deaths she records- but fascinating stuff.

Anyway.  [/historynerd]

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alschemid wrote...

When I was playing Awakening, actually more cursing the DLC than playing, I didn't know he would appear ... when I got him standing there... I turned all teen again: "Oh my god!! he is here... go talk to him... no, no, wait save the game first!! *makes another save and stares at him for a long time*... he is here, awww!....oh! yes I should talk to him...*stares at him a little longer*". 
After going through all his dialogue many times, I went cursing the DLC again, in the end they said the warden dissappeared... mine went to Montsimmard...to dissapear into Loghain's underwears...:P

LOL I did get a bit of giddy seeing him there, even knowing he was supposed to show up.   It's really a pity you don't get a Warden Alistair cameo like that, too.

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So, just finished my first big campaign of Sins of a Solar Empire, and I must say, this is probably the most awesome strategy game I've ever played. I have spready the word of the Unity to three star systems, and purged all the heathens before me. And I did so through the art of diplomatic treachery and cunning.



Illuminators.....there just are no frigates that can even come close. "This light will cleanse!" Lol, now I've got that stuck in my head. God, that's creepy the way she says that. But in a really evil kick ass way.



And I named my capital planet, a desert planet, Phoenix. Both as a nod to KoP for introducing me to such an awesome game, as well as the name of my second favorite city (also a desert).



Now I'm off again to go exterminate heathens and spread the word of the Unity to every living planet, whether they want it or not! Bwahahahahahahahaha!


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Skadi...for someone your age you sure as hell creep me out sometimes.

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

So, just finished my first big campaign of Sins of a Solar Empire, and I must say, this is probably the most awesome strategy game I've ever played. I have spready the word of the Unity to three star systems, and purged all the heathens before me. And I did so through the art of diplomatic treachery and cunning.

Illuminators.....there just are no frigates that can even come close. "This light will cleanse!" Lol, now I've got that stuck in my head. God, that's creepy the way she says that. But in a really evil kick ass way.

And I named my capital planet, a desert planet, Phoenix. Both as a nod to KoP for introducing me to such an awesome game, as well as the name of my second favorite city (also a desert).

Now I'm off again to go exterminate heathens and spread the word of the Unity to every living planet, whether they want it or not! Bwahahahahahahahaha!


Awww thank you! Glad you like it :wizard:

Illuminators are awesome and I usually micromanage them, so they can use their laser beams effectively.
The Guardian support cruiser is also very good. pro-tip: The Radiance's cleansing brilliance (its level 6 ultimate ability) with the Proginetor's Malice is DEADLY.

And this is something I like to do, I usually place 4 starbases around stars (you can do that). As a first line of defense, and just as a symbol of the reach of my empire's power. Also, you can place starbases in strategic locations that cannot be colonised (like asteroid belt, wormholes...etc). Sometimes, such locations can cut what would otherwise be a long trade route. So what I do is place a starbase there and upgrade it so it can support trading facilities, thus extending the main trade route.

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Oh yeah, I had one of each capital ship when I went on my final assault of the TEC, and yeah.....I was like "WTF? LOL!" when the Orgasmitron (my radiance battle cruiser) threw out some cleansing awesomeness. Yeah, Malice just adds to the WTF factor.



Yeah, I put a starbase on my main star first, mainly because the TEC kept mobbing me with Kodiak cruisers,, and I wanted to give em a surprise before they phasejumped to Phoenix. I also had one of my aerie drones mine the crap out of the gravity well, so I was cool for quite some time.



The Advent, though, are the most awesome. The only drawback is the slow rate it gets resources, as well as it's fleet limits. But the awesome, wicked fury of even a small fleet is just....epic win. I won this latest campaign diplomatically (was allying with the Vasari, but carefully managed it so that they would not become too strong, and sent them on TEC bombing runs to keep their numbers in check, as well as wear away on the TEC. I also played the TEC a bit diplomatically. Diplomacy is awesome.



Now I'm off on a bigger, badder map. :)



I just make my own custom maps/scenarios and adjust the difficulties of my enemies to

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lol Orgasmitron. Cleansing brilliance is totally ruined for me now :P

Yea the faction that is best at economy is TEC, hands down. Vasari are very good at metal extraction however. But the Advent have one slight advantage, as culture also increases tax revenue and the Advent can even raise the maximum allegiance of planets, which means more taxes. But that's in the middle-game.

I might to start a game with Advent soon, but been busy reading tons of books.


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We interrupt this program to announce Chapter 3. The fic is now called "Unbound". After the Landsmeet bummer, the Mage and her newly-reformed band of companions head out from Denerim, camp, and make a pit stop. The "first night in camp" conversation has been converted to "first morning in camp" --the Mage lets Loghain get a night's sleep first.. Thanks to Sarah1281, Addai67 and DragonRacer13 for getting me Loghain's half of that dialogue. There is lots more dialogue that is mine, though, plus some Loghain/Dog moments. <3

Please take a minute to leave feedback if you have any. I appreciate the perspective of people who don't have their heads completely stuck in the story like I do. =]

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. . .and, I appear to have killed the thread. *slinks back in hole*

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                                                                                  How disturbing.

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LOL The thread is pretty much dry anyway. I'm still on my Loghain-story ban. I should have mine finished somewhere around DA3's release I guess. :P

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Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

We interrupt this program to announce Chapter 3. The fic is now called "Unbound". After the Landsmeet bummer, the Mage and her newly-reformed band of companions head out from Denerim, camp, and make a pit stop. The "first night in camp" conversation has been converted to "first morning in camp" --the Mage lets Loghain get a night's sleep first.. Thanks to Sarah1281, Addai67 and DragonRacer13 for getting me Loghain's half of that dialogue. There is lots more dialogue that is mine, though, plus some Loghain/Dog moments. <3

Please take a minute to leave feedback if you have any. I appreciate the perspective of people who don't have their heads completely stuck in the story like I do. =]


I absolutely LOVED it. Esp. the ear whispering at Levi's shop, mwahahaha. And Loghain being all "My armor? NO WAY!". LOL. Your mage is absolutely awesome. Love, love, LOVE her. She is witty, funny, charming....Love the way you write, it's do immersive. Thumbs up!

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LOL The thread is pretty much dry anyway. I'm still on my Loghain-story ban. I should have mine finished somewhere around DA3's release I guess. :P


And here I was, hoping for more chapters and your opinion on several Loghain stories. =]

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Persephone wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

We interrupt this program to announce Chapter 3. The fic is now called "Unbound". After the Landsmeet bummer, the Mage and her newly-reformed band of companions head out from Denerim, camp, and make a pit stop. The "first night in camp" conversation has been converted to "first morning in camp" --the Mage lets Loghain get a night's sleep first.. Thanks to Sarah1281, Addai67 and DragonRacer13 for getting me Loghain's half of that dialogue. There is lots more dialogue that is mine, though, plus some Loghain/Dog moments. <3

Please take a minute to leave feedback if you have any. I appreciate the perspective of people who don't have their heads completely stuck in the story like I do. =]


I absolutely LOVED it. Esp. the ear whispering at Levi's shop, mwahahaha. And Loghain being all "My armor? NO WAY!". LOL. Your mage is absolutely awesome. Love, love, LOVE her. She is witty, funny, charming....Love the way you write, it's do immersive. Thumbs up!


Awwww. . .thanks, Persephone. :wub: I was also pleased to see your last long-awaited chapter. . .though it's now been a while. . .*taps foot*. The feisty Rhiannon must be getting up to her neck in something. :devil:

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Persephone wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

LOL The thread is pretty much dry anyway. I'm still on my Loghain-story ban. I should have mine finished somewhere around DA3's release I guess. :P


And here I was, hoping for more chapters and your opinion on several Loghain stories. =]

I'm still writing, but the last chapter and this one are like passing a kidney stone.  LOL  I've just decided it's done when it's done.  If I hurry it, it will just be crap.  Not that it might not end up crap anyway.

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I'm still writing, but the last chapter and this one are like passing a kidney stone.  LOL  I've just decided it's done when it's done.  If I hurry it, it will just be crap.  Not that it might not end up crap anyway.


Is it a momentum thing, or just a hard-slog chapter? My Chapter 2 took me for damn ever, not because I didn't want to write the story but because I just couldn't seem to write that one bit of it. It was an exposition/transition chapter and I just couldn't crank it through. Meanwhile my brain was wandering all over the rest of the story, thinking up bits of business and pages and pages of dialogue, which I fortunately wrote down; so I have a complete story outline and largish chunks of several chapters --not to mention a sketchy outline for a sequel!-- that came about simply because my head needed a break from Chapter 2.

I'm going to have to learn to carry a notebook with me, though --I have come up with some pretty good bits while commuting to/from work and sometimes I remembered them when I finally got to a computer, but not always. :mellow:

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I put a lot of work into every chapter, but certain ones are stickier than others. I know where I want to go, it's a matter of how to get there and to keep it lively/ interesting. And there are a lot of plates to keep in the air on an ongoing story where you have no chance to go back and revise- it has to be right the first time. My real problem is that the work week is so exhausting (I know it doesn't look it when I'm on here so much :P) so I rarely have any marbles on weeknights.

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[quote]Addai67 wrote...

I put a lot of work into every chapter, but certain ones are stickier than others. I know where I want to go, it's a matter of how to get there and to keep it lively/ interesting.[/quote]

Yeah, that was exactly my problem with Chapter 2, especially the second half. Which is ironic, because the Landsmeet decision is one of the more dramatic points of the game, but when writing it into that chapter all I could think of was "Yes, we all know it: 'I yield', 'I accept', Alistair flips out, let's make him a Warden, good idea, I'm outta here, blah blah blah." I just wanted to get on with the rest of my story. B)

[quote]And there are a lot of plates to keep in the air on an ongoing story where you have no chance to go back and revise- it has to be right the first time.[/quote]

Oh, I'm constantly going back and making little edits. Nothing major, content-wise: just word choices and little nit-picks here and there. I've never been able to let a story go. They'd have to take the Edit button away from me.[/quote]

[quote]My real problem is that the work week is so exhausting (I know it doesn't look it when I'm on here so much :P) so I rarely have any marbles on weeknights.[/quote]

Oh, I know --my exhausting work is the reason I flee here throughout the day as well. :alien:

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Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

We interrupt this program to announce Chapter 3. The fic is now called "Unbound". After the Landsmeet bummer, the Mage and her newly-reformed band of companions head out from Denerim, camp, and make a pit stop. The "first night in camp" conversation has been converted to "first morning in camp" --the Mage lets Loghain get a night's sleep first.. Thanks to Sarah1281, Addai67 and DragonRacer13 for getting me Loghain's half of that dialogue. There is lots more dialogue that is mine, though, plus some Loghain/Dog moments. <3

Please take a minute to leave feedback if you have any. I appreciate the perspective of people who don't have their heads completely stuck in the story like I do. =]


I absolutely LOVED it. Esp. the ear whispering at Levi's shop, mwahahaha. And Loghain being all "My armor? NO WAY!". LOL. Your mage is absolutely awesome. Love, love, LOVE her. She is witty, funny, charming....Love the way you write, it's do immersive. Thumbs up!


Awwww. . .thanks, Persephone. :wub: I was also pleased to see your last long-awaited chapter. . .though it's now been a while. . .*taps foot*. The feisty Rhiannon must be getting up to her neck in something. :devil:


Yeah, she's been busy alright. :whistle::happy::lol:

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I freakin hate DA hands. Creepy.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I freakin hate DA hands. Creepy.


Alistair's hands, esp. when gloved, during kiss & smut scenes are even worse. They are HUGE!!!!:blink::happy: