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This thread need something funny to ease the tension.



Someone post a funny Loghain or one his banters with Wynne from RtO.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Monica21 wrote...
And if I want to make a fan video, does that make me a fangirl, or a wannabe fangirl?


Fangirl I guess.
And my minion, being the lord of fanboys and girls. Posted Image

Now that needs a sig! :D

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 epilogues aside since epilogues are basically BS anyway. 


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I think it has just been determined that all future discussions regarding the issue will be nothing more than running around in circles (something I should have realised a long time ago), as we can't even agree tto use the epilogue as evidence and basis of argument. 

Is it because there is no mention of a Golden Age in any epilogue other than a Cousland / Anora one., per chance? Posted Image   

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Addai67 wrote...

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Who really cares what haters think.
Do what you like in regards to your favourtie stuff and ignore detractors.

I'm not a detractor if people are fans of whoever- make an Isolde Appreciation Society for all I care.  LOL  I consider myself a fangirl of several NPCs and don't consider the term perjorative.  No need to be so prickly and highbrow, geez.

Sorry that was not directed at you.
Just from lots of rough handling on other forums.

I always seem to like charachters that get tons of hate.

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Zjarcal wrote...

This thread need something funny to ease the tension.

Someone post a funny Loghain or one his banters with Wynne from RtO.


A very unnecessary tension, that is off-topic to boot.

Anyways, funny Loghain stuff.

I still think this : "You'll have to forgive me if I shut my eyes and think of my dead wife."
Is one of his funniest quotes lol

And one of my favorite Loghain banters is with dog. 
Really manages to show the person that is underneath all that cold, almost depressed like demeanour. 

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
 epilogues aside since epilogues are basically BS anyway. 


....

I think it has just been determined that all future discussions regarding the issue will be nothing more than running around in circles (something I should have realised a long time ago), as we can't even agree tto use the epilogue as evidence and basis of argument. 

Is it because there is no mention of a Golden Age in any epilogue other than a Cousland / Anora one., per chance? Posted Image   

Epilogues are for a sense of player resolution, not for story purposes, as evidenced by a) the fact that they can be so stupid and senseless, and B) the fact that the writers set them aside whenever they feel like.

I simply don't take them seriously for my games.  Should I really contemplate that if my Dalish blood mage becomes Alistair's chancellor that they are going to have as rosy and peaceful a reign as if my Andrastian spirit healer or even my Cousland becomes chancellor?

It's why I don't rage about Alistair endings the way some do, such as him going off with a mistress but not with a queen or whatever.  BW gets the interns to write these things.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

And one of my favorite Loghain banters is with dog. 
Really manages to show the person that is underneath all that cold, almost depressed like demeanour. 


Oh man, Loghain's banters with Dog are what really made me love Loghain. I know there are plenty of other reasons, but being the animal lover that I am, listening to Loghain remember about his childhood friend and being so nice to my doggy in the process, really won me over.

Loghain: She passed away after a week. It was as though she held on long enough to come home to us. I held her head in my lap, and I believe she died happy
Dog: (Sad whine)

Those two lines almost bring me to tears.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 02 septembre 2010 - 04:00 .


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Loghain: Here, some smoked boar saved from supper. Huh, it'll do you good.

Dog: (Excited huffing)

Loghain: I had a mabari once. Adalla--that was her name. We found her in the wood shed one night. She was still a pup then.

Loghain: We never figured out where she came from. My mother called her a gift from the Maker. And she was... she really was.

Loghain: She was beautiful; she had a lovely chestnut brown coat, and the most intelligent, understanding eyes. You would have liked her.

Dog: (He wags his tail.)

Loghain: We grew up together. She never left my side, not once. Ten years we had her, before she was taken away...

Dog: (He ****s his head and looks curiously at Loghain.)

Loghain: Another time perhaps. Finish your snack.

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Dog: (Dog sniffs the air curiously.)

Loghain: Oh, don't give me that face. I'm betting you want the cheese in my pocket.

Dog: (He sits and waits patiently.)

Loghain: Very well, here you go. Don't eat it all at once. Or... do, whichever you prefer.

Loghain: I used to keep cheese in my pocket for Adalla too. I think the rinds were her favorite part.

Loghain: I mentioned she was taken from us, did I not? This was when Orlais still ruled, and it was an Orlesian lordling who took her.

Loghain: He wanted to mix the blood of our noble mabari with their frail, wasp-wasted game hounds, which were bred for looks, not intelligence.

Loghain: I tried to keep her, but there was little I could do to stop the Orlesian... I wasn't even a man then.

Loghain: You can imagine what it was like for her, being torn away from the boy--the family she was bonded to.

Dog: (Long, low whine)

Loghain: It was six months before we saw her again. The Orlesian returned her--and when I say "returned," I mean "pushed her out of his wagon."

Loghain: She was skin and bone, and still carried the scars from where their pronged collars bit into her neck. She never quite recovered.

Loghain: She passed away after a week. It was as though she held on long enough to come home to us. I held her head in my lap, and I believe she died happy.

Dog: (Sad whine)

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Posted Image DOUBLE POST!

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Addai67 wrote...
Should I really contemplate that if my Dalish blood mage becomes Alistair's chancellor that they are going to have as rosy and peaceful a reign as if my Andrastian spirit healer or even my Cousland becomes chancellor?


Except that the epilogue does not speak of a "rosy and peaceful reign", and is left vague for you to imagine. But the basics, such as Alistair deferring most of the decision to his chancellor even when hardened, is established and that the kingdom manages to survive. You can then imagine what you want based on that, even imagine Alistair becoming more adequate for the job.  

Same with the Cousland / Anora epilogue, which specifies that it's only a Golden Age if they can manage to cooperate. So a jackass is not going to logically get that ending.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...
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Dammit. Now I need a good cry.

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Zjarcal wrote...

This thread need something funny to ease the tension.

Someone post a funny Loghain or one his banters with Wynne from RtO.

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King Cailan,
Where do you think you are?!
My men have been searching for you all over Ferelden, and then I hear from a old mad women that you were at the castle enjoying yourself while I'm doin your crappy work! You better get your royal ass here immediately!

Loghain
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Zjarcal wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

And one of my favorite Loghain banters is with dog. 
Really manages to show the person that is underneath all that cold, almost depressed like demeanour. 


Oh man, Loghain's banters with Dog are what really made me love Loghain. I know there are plenty of other reasons, but being the animal lover that I am, listening to Loghain remember about his childhood friend and being so nice to my doggy in the process, really won me over.

Loghain: She passed away after a week. It was as though she held on long enough to come home to us. I held her head in my lap, and I believe she died happy
Dog: (Sad whine)

Those two lines almost bring me to tears.


Yea, I was actualy surprised. Not only did I not imagine Loghain having a dog, but I was surprised dog actually liked him. Gee, Morrigan was right when she said dog was not the stupidest member in the party Posted Image


Also, this makes me lmao


[*]Wynne: You've fallen silent, Loghain.
[*]Loghain: And I wish you would do the same, madam

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 02 septembre 2010 - 04:07 .


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread need something funny to ease the tension.

Someone post a funny Loghain or one his banters with Wynne from RtO.


A very unnecessary tension, that is off-topic to boot.

Anyways, funny Loghain stuff.

I still think this : "You'll have to forgive me if I shut my eyes and think of my dead wife."
Is one of his funniest quotes lol

And one of my favorite Loghain banters is with dog. 
Really manages to show the person that is underneath all that cold, almost depressed like demeanour. 

Does his dialogue with Dog have something to do with approval? I went back to my previous game and spared him because I got impatient with my current character, and didn't have enough time or maps to get his approval above 60 I think. I didn't get any dialogue between him and Dog.

I also did the DR but didn't get that line from him. Is that a specific response to something the Warden says? Because it's actually really funny.

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Monica21 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

 

Dammit. Now I need a good cry.

I did to after hearing that.
Simon T really did sound like a little boy who just lost his dog there.

It hit hard for me since I remebered having to put my dog down after she got sick.
I am not ashamed to admit how hard I cried that night.

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Monica21 wrote...

Does his dialogue with Dog have something to do with approval? I went back to my previous game and spared him because I got impatient with my current character, and didn't have enough time or maps to get his approval above 60 I think. I didn't get any dialogue between him and Dog.

I also did the DR but didn't get that line from him. Is that a specific response to something the Warden says? Because it's actually really funny.


Don't know. Are you using the dog mod? 

And I think you have to question Morrigan again even after you agree to the ritual to get that line.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

 

Dammit. Now I need a good cry.

I did to after hearing that.
Simon T really did sound like a little boy who just lost his dog there.

It hit hard for me since I remebered having to put my dog down after she got sick.
I am not ashamed to admit how hard I cried that night.


So hard to lose a family pet. I've been there, too. Posted Image

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phaonica wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Does his dialogue with Dog have something to do with approval? I went back to my previous game and spared him because I got impatient with my current character, and didn't have enough time or maps to get his approval above 60 I think. I didn't get any dialogue between him and Dog.

I also did the DR but didn't get that line from him. Is that a specific response to something the Warden says? Because it's actually really funny.


Don't know. Are you using the dog mod? 

And I think you have to question Morrigan again even after you agree to the ritual to get that line.

The extra dog slot one? Yes, I am. Does that change it, because Dog doesn't appear as summoned in camp.

And good to know about the DR line. I'll need to hear that.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

I am not ashamed to admit how hard I cried that night.


You just won 100 approval points from me.

@Sarah:

The letter about, eh, pleasing Anora, had me laughing like a maniac!

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Monica21 wrote...
The extra dog slot one? Yes, I am. Does that change it, because Dog doesn't appear as summoned in camp.

And good to know about the DR line. I'll need to hear that.


Dog's banters will never trigger when he's being used as a summon. He needs to be an actual party member for his banters to trigger.

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Monica21 wrote...
Does his dialogue with Dog have something to do with approval? I went back to my previous game and spared him because I got impatient with my current character, and didn't have enough time or maps to get his approval above 60 I think. I didn't get any dialogue between him and Dog.

I also did the DR but didn't get that line from him. Is that a specific response to something the Warden says? Because it's actually really funny.


I am not sure on both counts. I always get his banter with cdog and I don't know if it has anything to do with approval. I don't think so, but I am not sure.

I did the Loghain DR thing only once, and I can't recall what I said.  I initially thought it was his default line when persuaded, but I guess not since you didn't get it.  
Morrigan's reply is equally funny and typically Morrigan. Something about her not being surprised that Loghain would prefer doing it with his wife's corpse lol

EDIT: ninjaed

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Monica21 wrote...

The extra dog slot one? Yes, I am. Does that change it, because Dog doesn't appear as summoned in camp.

And good to know about the DR line. I'll need to hear that.


I don't think the dog is included in the banter cycle or any of his triggered events if he is in the "dog slot" and not in the party proper.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Monica21 wrote...
The extra dog slot one? Yes, I am. Does that change it, because Dog doesn't appear as summoned in camp.

And good to know about the DR line. I'll need to hear that.


Dog's banters will never trigger when he's being used as a summon. He needs to be an actual party member for his banters to trigger.

I could get dialogue with Dog and other party members in camp, but I couldn't with Loghain. That's why I wasn't sure if it was approval based.

And that's my other question, is it party banter or does it happen in camp?

edit: Sounds like party banter, and I can take care of that when the time comes.

Modifié par Monica21, 02 septembre 2010 - 04:21 .


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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

 

Dammit. Now I need a good cry.

I did to after hearing that.
Simon T really did sound like a little boy who just lost his dog there.

It hit hard for me since I remebered having to put my dog down after she got sick.
I am not ashamed to admit how hard I cried that night.


Yea his delivery of the lines was perfect. 

And eh, no shame in that. I cried a lot when I had to leave my cats.  

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I did the Loghain DR thing only once, and I can't recall what I said.  I initially thought it was his default line when persuaded, but I guess not since you didn't get it.  
Morrigan's reply is equally funny and typically Morrigan. Something about her not being surprised that Loghain would prefer doing it with his wife's corpse lol

EDIT: ninjaed


It's a funny line, but I rather like hearing him question Morrigan about the child.