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[Giggles_Manically]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

You are studying history I take it?

Yes.

Speciffically Colonial Canadian history.

For my course I am writing a paper on: Why the Iroquois Confederacy led to the downfall of New France.

Also: I take it that is your import game with Bhelen on the throne yes?
If so you have done another favor for the dwarves.


Thoughtful Loghain.

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 08 mars 2011 - 08:47 .

[Costin_Razvan]

If so you have done another favor for the dwarves.

One of many indeed! At first when the game threw me in combat on his side I thought I could not kill him, I was greatly and pleasantly surprised.

[Giggles_Manically]

Did he have some choice words about the warden siding against the Harrowmonts?
Or about how vile the new king is?

[Costin_Razvan]

He said Bhelen murdered his entire family after his father failed to take throne. "Laughs"

You play the game, you win and take all the comforts or lose and pay with your life.

[Giggles_Manically]

So heard any comments about Loghain or about Bhelen in DA2 yet?

Or is at all still: HE IS A TRAITOR!

[Costin_Razvan]

I am trying to fight over a bloody ****ing dozen templars in a Chantry to help Anders. Not FUN.

I refuse to reduce the difficulty but have been going at it for well over 2 hours in attempts. ( all my saves are past the point of no return or else I would have gone to try another quest )

[Giggles_Manically]

I am guessing you are playing on Nightmare Costin.

Didn't Laidlaw say: "If you try to play on Nightmare... well good luck"

[Costin_Razvan]

Wouldn't have been that hard if I had just enabled my DLC ( which I still haven't btw ).

After getting Anders...things turned easy. ( Bethany+Anders+Varric = ownage aoe and single damage while my Hawke is a tank ).

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ladies and gents, I present to you Gabriel Hawke



Passive aggressive fellow for the most part. Moderately ambitious. Yea, I am trying not to play another Arcturus (aka another me) as much as possible.

[Giggles_Manically]

I think I got close to what I am going to look like in DA2,

Just gah the face models look so off in some scenes.

[Costin_Razvan]

Well, I did meet drunken Alistair. He was pathetic.

Knight: Don't think I could ever stand playing a mage, mostly because I imagine I would have to deal with Carver not wearing armor at all and trying to make sense of that.

I know Isabella doesn't wear armor, but she is a rogue.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Wouldn't expect anything less from a drunk tbh.

And yea, I stopped bringing Carver with me, he's useless. For now, it's Aveline, Varric and Anders. That said, Carver is a more interesting character than I thought. Well it's mostly the rivalry between him and Hawke that's interesting.

[Costin_Razvan]

I got Fenris by now...he is great in doing damage ...to my OTHER COMPANIONS. Having someone killing our own people even faster then the enemy can is NOT fun.

[nos_astra]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Ladies and gents, I present to you Gabriel Hawke.

He looks like the love child of Eamon and Duncan.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

You know, after seeing what they did to Alistair's facemorph, I'm so glad Loghain is not making an appearance in DA2. Loghain would end up looking more like David Hasslehoff than the hawt, sleep deprived Log-ster we have all come to know and lust after.

[Giggles_Manically]

Bah.

I am PRAYING for the toolset so someone can attempt to fix all the fugly-ness in DA2.

Hmm.... now I want to make a young Loghain Hawke for DA2.
The bastard son of Loghain who has gone on to do awesome stuff in Kirkwall or something.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

In that shot, Gabriel Hawke kinda looks like Tom Cruise.

There's a thought, Gabriel can take over Kirkwall and all of Thedas by spreading Scientology. Even if he doesn't succeed in rising to power, he'll make a ton of money off the e-meters and auditing sessions.

Of course, he could not be another Arcturus. Nobody, not even you, can duplicate the  goateed' Man with the Masterplan.

[Giggles_Manically]

I still want to play a Hawke that acts like V from V for Vendetta.

You have all the corrupt people, the oppressed masses, now I will just have to make him for DA2.

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Klara
lol now that you mention it, he does a bit.

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Of course, he could not be another Arcturus. Nobody, not even you, can duplicate the  goateed' Man with the Masterplan.

The only one who can is Xanatos.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Everything is going according to plan.

In a sidequest in DA2, we find out that Amaranthine is starting to rival Kirkwall, prompting some officials there to hire pirates to hunt Amaranthine ships (which Hawke reported). Arcturus would be proud to know that the city he saved is doing exactly what he intended for it to do, when he saved her.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 10 mars 2011 - 01:33 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

I am guessing that has to do with whether it was saved or abandoned. Would be nice, to see if someone imported a save where they abandoned Amaranthine and destroyed it, if such a side quest is available. Since, if Amaranthine has been razed, and the epilogues show it as never recovering, it would be hard to rival kirkwall if you're a smoking ruin.

It sounds like, though, your saves are being imported correctly, which is a very encouraging sign. I shall wait to see how many severe or immersion breaking bugs there are, but if everything seems to carry over fairly smooth, and there are no major bugs, then probably 2/3 of my doubts and worries about DA2 will have been allieviated. That only leaves lore, plot and lore continuity from origins, story flow and engagement, focus, and companion immersion.

[Costin_Razvan]

Skadi: So much for your peace with Orlais, Dragon Age II indicates the Orlesians want to march and take back Fereldan while Alistair/Anora or both are trying to keep the peace.

As for imports, I dunno everything seems to be working fine for me thus far. Though I find it somewhat odd that Anders would not mention he was friends with the Hero of Fereldan, oh well.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 10 mars 2011 - 10:55 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Wanting to and doing so are two different things. Just like the epilogue slides for Orzammar state the Chantry wants to and is considering an exalted march.

That Orlais had plans to take over Ferelden in some matter has never been in question, nor was the possibility that they would try to do so via military means. However, your "solution" was to take them on directly quite soon after the country's forces had been decimated by the Blight and civil war, with no money to fund them, and economics still being so weak they can't properly finances or field an army. Which would be a pretty fail idea in itself: that would be like the Polish army, on horseback with sabres, post WW2, trying to attack and invade a great military and industrial power as Germany was pre-World War 2. Ferelden is still recovering from both a Blight and civil war, Orlais's military is a strong as ever, the country rich and stable.

In otherwords, epic fail for such a plan.

That conflict with orlais would inevitably come is a given. But keeping amicable relations, at least on the surface, would buy time for Ferelden to rebuild it's forces, make very big and powerful friends like Nevarra, and come up with a feasible plan for invasion and occupation of a country the size of Orlais, while behind the scenes working politically and economically to weaken orlais or undermine it in various methods.

At the most, by the time Witch Hunt ends, Ferelden, if Loghain is alive, might be able to fight off occupation attempts from Orlais. But invade? No way. Even if you manage to conscript ever able bodied person in Ferelden into your forces to replace the armies lost at ostagar, from the Blight, and the civil war, you still need an economic system that can equip, feed, and field them all. And, of course, you need generals to train them. Loghain can't really be counted on, since the epilogues state if he survives the whole Blight, the taint takes him in a couple of years, so he won't really be around to help.

The logistics and training issues are the biggest ones, and a poorly equipped, poorly fed army is just not going to go anywhere, especially against a wealthy, well trained, well equiped military like the orlesian one.

As far as Nevarra goes, since they are number 1 on the list for must have allies, what is their situation in DA2? What are they upto, where is their focus,

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

And forgot to add:

Anders not aknowledging the Warden as friend is irritating, as is what happened to The Pounce. Not only was my canon Warden, another mage who strongly disliked the Circle and hated the Chantry and the templars, his BFF, but she would NEVER force Anders to give up The Pounce. No mere mortal has that power or authority!

I mean, The Pounce is The Beard! Even if Anders was distracted and ripped in half in the deep roads, the Pounce is a divine being! he has the power of life and death! He could ressurect Anders, then smite the fiend who dared attack his chosen servant and disciple! 

So eventually, when I play DA2, and that comes up, I shall simply have to pretend that it was another Warden Commander, one who succeeded mine, who committed such blasphemy, and Anders memories became confused after being possesed by Justice. Besides, probably a month after Awakenings, I RP'd my Warden as resigning from Vigil's keep and leaving the surface for good to Orzammar and the deep roads, where she would set up her own renegade Warden chapter, which would focus not only on taking the fight to the darkspawn and being more pro-active in seeking ways to curb or end the threat, as well as provide assistance for the great and wise King Bhelen in his efforts to reclaim the deep roads (in exchange for use and control of one of the smaller, less important thaigs they liberate).

All hail The Pounce!

[Glorfindel709]

Several things...

@Costin -- Hahaha I did the Harrowmont quest last night before my game broke, did the same exact thing. Go Bhelen.

I also am on my way to power.... Aveline, Captain of the Guard. My "Get out of Jail Free" card muhahaha... though honestly, I find myself curious about the rest of my companions. I'm so far been questing with Merill, Varic, and Carver (because Fenris keeps killing me or dying in the first two seconds) and I don't know how I feel about them in comparison to Origins companions 8 hours in. On one hand, I really like Varic, I think he is one of the most interesting companions I've ever had in an RPG... and the rivalry with Carver is very intriguing to watch as time moves on. Anders too, his input and actions in the Mage/Chantry conflict that has been growing is extremely interesting, especially when he goes all Vengency. But some of the characters are falling flat with me (Fenris, Isabela,and Merill to be specific) in regards to how much I actually care about them as people.....

@KoP ........................ O.o I have been playing a Mage Hawke named Gabriel since I got it at the midnight release..... *glares* I've got my eye on you