Costin_Razvan wrote...
From my perspective installing "democracy" in a country like Libya right now would involve parties that would be backed by businessmen from the shadows taking power. This is exactly what happened in my country after our glorious revolution.
It's far better for the Libyans for Gaddafi to keep power, freedom of speech is all well and nice but I would rather have a dictator then a bunch of companies controlling a country.
*chuckles back* Of course! What do you think "democracy" in this modern age is really about? I mean hell, if the good ol' US of A is basically little more than a giant coorporate playground, where our whole government and foreign policy is based on corporate and private interests, what other motivation would we have to spead this "wonderous" ideology for? I honestly can't think of any military/political conflict the US has engaged in since the Korean War that wasn't motivated largely by the desires or interests of some powerful, private sector (arms industry, oil, pharmeceuticals, even f*cking sugar cane, in the case of Cuba).
We continue to support regimes that make Ghadfi look like a choir boy, because those regimes give free reign to foreign interests and investments.
That's what "democracy" is all about.
You don't think they have already supplied weapons already? "Chuckle" We know at least Egypt has, but it's way too late for any direct intervention. Gaddafi is laying siege to Misurata in the west and preparing to march on Benghazi in the east, so much for the revolution.
Nothing, short of a nuclear strike, would stop him right now from winning.
Oh, I'm pretty sure we already are slipping some armaments. I'm waiting to see when the rebels start shooting down Ghadafi's planes or helicopters in large numbers, as that's a pretty sure sign that the US is definitely involved, selling shoulder fired anti-aircraft weapons like Stingers and Red Eyes. It's almost standard policy when funding rebel groups. And I'm guessing that's what the rebels are hoping for. One of Ghadafi's major advantages is air power, but if the rebels get their hands on large numbers of shoulder fired missiles, then at least in that sector, the rebels will have gained a signifigant advantage (provided they actually know how to use it to their advantage).
And of course, there is the real threat of Al Qaeda, or some other extremist group moving in to assist the rebels, something that Ghadafi says is already happening. Which would mean an increase in IEDs and other garage-made tools of guerilla warfare.
it could get interesting if there is more backroom involvement by foreign entities.
The issue for Europe/US is that they need Oil from Libya and they know this, and what have their provocations done after Gaddafi wins? Well he swore to not allow any company from either France/US/Britain back in Libya. Only Germany ( who took the smart approach and resists the no-fly zone, which is a fantasy by now ) is going to be. We shall if he keeps his word on this.
What is interesting here, is what it will mean for the EU. Germany is playing it smart (no surprise, the Germans are anything but stupid, which is why they have been always been pretty successful at alot of things). But the European Union is weak, and is becoming more and more unpopular amongst it's member states. Again, Germany is about the only EU country that has shown any signifigant economic recovery, despite the fact it was mostly they who had to bear the brunt of bailing out the economic failures of Greece, Spain, and Ireland. The German industrial/economic machine is frighteningly awesome and resilient.
But for the EU overall, alot of the wealthier nations are pretty pissed off and disenchanted with bailing out the economic morons of the Union, especially when those countries (Greece, Spain, and Ireland) have been dead weight for decades, corrupt economic disasters waiting to happen, despite years of funding and economic aid for more stable EU states. Eastern Europe, by contrast, has far exceeded the deadbeats, even though they have been in the EU for a shorter period of time, and had alot of post Soviet Era issues to deal with. If the EU wants to survive, they need to cut loose member states who are either not pulling their weight despite years of support, or even remotely trying to.
This crisis in Libya should prove interesting to see how it will fracture the EU, if France and britian get stupid and decide to intervene militarily, when powerful states like Germany oppose it.
As for invading Libya.....well wouldn't ANOTHER Afghanistan/Iraq be lovely? Gaddafi has strong supporters inside who would end up engaging in guerrilla warfare. I wish NATO luck if they are THAT dumb.
If they are that stupid, I wish them failure on an epic scale. I believe stupidity on that scale needs to be punished. Common sense says that starting a third war when we can't finish up the other two is an incredibly stupid thing to do.
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) I just don't know when I'm going to get around to it. Nice to see
