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I always flirt with her in order to get my fish fed. One of my Shepards - I think it was one of the fellows who was holding out for Liara or Ash, got her into his cabin, so we'll have to see how that pans out in the next game.
My heart definitely belongs to Garrus, though. He is just that awesome.

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Garrus ranks as my favorite bromance ever.

Next comes Vernon Roche.

Then Varric.

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My fish always die!  But I'm not flirting with that over-caffeinated Cerberus busybody just for the fish. I always tell her to stay out of my face in the first convo and pretty much ignore her the rest of the game.

Garrus is the only reason to play ME as far as I'm concerned.  :wub:

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Leliana... Merrill... Kelly... tis like my yings are your yangs. :P

At least we both love Garrus. :wub:

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Zjarcal wrote...

OMG, my fish! They died once before Kelly started taking care of them...  :crying:


Okay, is THAT what happened? Because I'd just bought these cool, beta-looking fish at the Citadel and got to feed them once... then, next time I went to my cabin, they'd disappeared. Didn't know if I overfed them... or didn't feed them enough... or if the Collectors got them or what. Kelly hasn't said a thing about feeding my fish, though. Posted Image 

And yes, you lot, I finally broke down and bought ME2 for my PS3. And proceeded to get rather lost since, apparently, that 15-minute Darkhorse comic backstory that comes with it... that's supposed to fill you in and let you make all your ME1 choices to basically create a custome save file for you... apparently, that was part of the Cerberus Online Pass or whatever, which I can only download at the PS Store... which is still currently offline after that hack attack on the Playstation network. *sigh* So, running around blind with whatever choices the game decided I would have done.

Oh, well. I seem to have gotten the hang of it. And it only took two days of playing before the bizarre turian sex dreams started popping up randomly in my life, so I guess I'm not too lost. LOL

Although, I may scream if I ever hear the damn word "calibrations" ever again. Gah... DA:O got it right with letting you at least have multiple things to talk about in camp, rather than one post-recruitment conversation and then a dry spell until the loyalty mission.

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CalJones wrote...

I always flirt with her in order to get my fish fed. One of my Shepards - I think it was one of the fellows who was holding out for Liara or Ash, got her into his cabin, so we'll have to see how that pans out in the next game.
My heart definitely belongs to Garrus, though. He is just that awesome.


Completely agree. He is the Varric of my game right now... permanent squad position for EVERY mission (well, except that one mission with the alien plague... hated leaving him behind, but wasn't going to risk it...). With the extra bonus of actually being able to jump his bones (I'm looking at you, DA3 writers, with hope for Varric... ).

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Zjarcal wrote...
At least we both love Garrus. :wub:


He brings people together. In a good way.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Garrus ranks as my favorite bromance ever.

Next comes Vernon Roche.

Then Varric.


I've just met Roche. I must admit, after an afternoon's play, I'm finding it hard going. Not the story or anything, but the mechanics. Just had to lower it to easy to get through the fights and even so I'm having trouble with the damned dragon on the bridge. I feel like such a spaz.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Leliana... Merrill... Kelly... tis like my yings are your yangs. :P

At least we both love Garrus. :wub:

Heh.  And Tali- don't forget Tali.

It's the perky thing.  IRL you have to be polite and all, so when I encounter a perky, cutesy thing in a video game it makes me want to hit them with a two-by-four all the more.

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If anyone wants my copies they're welcome.


Are they Digital?

I figure they couldn't be as good as playing the games ( or well in your case just the TW1 ) since the thing they sell themselves on mostly is how good the story is them and how you can affect that story.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...


If anyone wants my copies they're welcome.


Are they Digital?

I figure they couldn't be as good as playing the games ( or well in your case just the TW1 ) since the thing they sell themselves on mostly is how good the story is them and how you can affect that story.

No, print.  You can PM me your address if you want them.  Or I can put them up on Bookmooch if someone has an account and wants the points.

I'm mostly interested in the Eastern European mythology behind them, not so much the witcher parts.

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Nvm then, but thanks for the offer.

Found the books myself...and WTH the last wish starts with a sex scene?!

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Heh, the games didn't make that part up.

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Costin_Razvan

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Oh dear lord....Geralt what the hell have you done?! ( Read to the middle of the last wish then checked the wiki about Duny...and I was WHAT?!?!? I almost crashed my chair ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 31 mai 2011 - 10:32 .


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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Oh dear lord....Geralt what the hell have you done?!


oh... I think I'll give another try on this book. :P

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It's not in the book sadly. ( I just happened to check the wiki for a character I found in the book I was reading and HOLY **** ).

The really big spoiler thing is in the last book that is only currently in Polish, but let me just spill it out for you.

Geralt has a child named Ciri, an adoptive child he got through the Law of Surprise ( read the witcher.wikia.com on that if you are curios about ). This girl is the biological daughter of someone named Duny whom Geralt cured from a cruse and also saved his life.

Well..."ahem" Duny was supposedly a minor lord in Cintra or something like that but in reality....well I think I will just quote the wiki on this. ( You better be seated ).

Geralt, with the help of Codringher and Fenn, discovered that none of Akerspaark's sons was named Duny. In Pani jeziora, the last part of the Witcher series, it turns out that Duny and Emhyr var Emreis, the Emperor of Nilfgaard, are actually the same person.

Emhyr var Emreis, Deithwen Addan yn Carn aep Morvudd (In the Elder Speech - the White Flame Dancing on the Grave-Mounds of Enemies), also known vas Urcheon of Erlenwald and Duny, was the Emperor of Nilfgaard and Lord Protector of Verden.

When he was younger, he sought to marry Pavetta of Cintra, going as far as introducing himself as Urcheon of Erlenwald, or Duny, the identity under which he claimed he was cursed and that the curse turned him into a half-human and half-hedgehog creature, except at night. The curse was lifted when he eventually married Pavetta, having learned only shortly before that she already was pregnant with their daughter, which they named Cirilla.

When the chance came, he tried to take Pavetta and Cirilla with him to Nilfgaard, where he was the rightful heir to the throne. He intended to do that by sailing across the Sedna Abyss, from which he was to be transported by the sorcerer Vilgefortz. However the plan didn't succeed, as Pavetta found out about it and left Ciri safely back on land. She and Duny alias Emhyr argued and as a result, Pavetta fell overboard (possibly pushed over by Emhyr himself in his anger).

When Emhyr finally got back to Nilfgaard, he took back his legacy and became the emperor of Nilfgaard, beginning his conquest of the North. He tried to kidnap Ciri at all cost and twice ordered Cahir Mawr Dyffryn aep Ceallach to find her. But Cahir failed both times and the task was finally given to Stefan Skellen.

Despite the fact that Ciri was his daughter and only child, he wanted to marry and have a child with her, because as the Ithline prophecy says, Ciri's child would rule half, and the son of her son the whole world.

Emhyr var Emreis was an intelligent and brilliant ruler. He picked his people with excellence and abolished all plots against him. He was ruthless toward traitors and moved towards his goals with determination.

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So yes...Geralt is the adoptive father to the HEIR of the Empire of Nilfgaard.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 01 juin 2011 - 10:51 .


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Giggles_Manically

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Wait wut....

That dude wants to marry his own daughter.
Eewww..

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There's a lot of it about. King Foltest banged his sister and Adda, the daughter born from that union, became cursed. She appears in TW1.

I very much enjoyed TW1. I must admit, beautiful though it is, I'm struggling to get into TW2. It looks lovely but the mechanics are overly complex and there are some very weird design decisions (you can only drink potions before a fight, not during - wtf?) I want to love it, I really do, but it's actually proving a bit of a chore. Hopefully I'll get past this once I'm used to it. I'm on PC, btw - perhaps it's more intuitive on console, I don't know.

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My fellow Loghain fans,

I come bearing a gift, namely chapter 16 of "The Edge Of The Grey Enigma".

www.fanfiction.net/s/6087280/16/

Feedback/Reviews are my greatest joy as a writer.

Love ya all!:)

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It looks lovely but the mechanics are overly complex and there are some very weird design decisions (you can only drink potions before a fight, not during - wtf?) I want to love it, I really do, but it's actually proving a bit of a chore. Hopefully I'll get past this once I'm used to it. I'm on PC, btw - perhaps it's more intuitive on console, I don't know.


Please don't tell me you find the mechanics "overly complex" because the game is kicking your ass....just seriously. There is a tutorial ( open journal and you will find it there ) but the developers did not feel like Bioware who is like" Let's make even the biggest moron be able to complete the game without giving them a real challenge" they felt the combat should pose a challenge to players, not something you just ignore.

I dunno. I started the game on Insane and I died 6 times before I realized how to finish the prologue properly, and even then I found it challenging...now I just breeze through it...it's not eays but compared to stuff like the Kayran, Draug and Dragon it most definetly is laughable!

As for potions, the developers probably did not want boss fights to ever become trivial by potion spamming ) like say Dragon Age Origins or DA2. Now they just buff you a little  or a lot in some areas but you suffer penalties in others.

There is no console version.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 02 juin 2011 - 10:12 .


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If the first thing out of someone`s mouth in regards to a game is:
What the Hell? That just makes no sense WHY a game would be this annoying to get into.

I played some of the Witcher 2.
I found the mechanics of it poorly done, poorly explained, and poor in general.

Combat was utterly cluncky and unintuitive with a learning curve that more inspired rage and face palms then enjoyment.

If a game causes tons of people to become so annoyed at it due to sheer mind boggling fail like that its not a good thing.

Games are supposed to be fun guys.
The prologue to the Witcher 2 turned me and well most of my friends who played it off from the rest of the game. That is a gigantic failure at launch.

I was literally left saying:
"Well damn,... if the rest of the game is like this count me out of here"

This does not even begun to cover how lame the VO is, how cheesy the lines are I have seen, or how arrogant the devs seem to be about this.

It suffers the SAME issue that Mass Effect 1 and Morrowind do.
They just toss you to the wolves and leave you to flail about in a rage until you get the hang of it.

If you have a learning cliff then its just a flaw in game design that.

Ah but who am I to find fault in the worlds greatest ARPEGEE now

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Ah but who am I to find fault in the worlds greatest ARPEGEE now


To find fault in a combat system is one thing.

To completely and utterly suck at it and then complain the game sucks is just trolling period. I've said it once and I will say it again: It's like going in Counterstrike when you can't handle FPS combat and then going around saying Counterstrike utterly sucks as game.

Do I need to say what kind of responses you would get for doing that?

 Games are supposed to be fun guys. 
The prologue to the Witcher 2 turned me and well most of my friends who played it off from the rest of the game. That is a gigantic failure at launch.


Good for you. then you either hate the combat type or you just plainly suck at it. I love the idea these days that people should get in a game and just breeze through the opening part ( and others do as well, or you can bet your freaking ass the game wouldn't have gotten a 8.8 score based on 1323 user reviews on metacritic ).

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Giggles_Manically wrote...
Games are supposed to be fun guys. 


Yes, and I found it incredibly fun. It's been a while since I had this much fun based on combat alone. Add the story in the mix, and I'm all set.

I love the game kicking my ass (playing on hard), because almost every single time, it was my fault (has a lot to do with positioning) and not some exploit or bug. The latter is what frustrates me, not the former. This makes almost every fight satisfying to win.

But of course I understand that the system is not for everyone and that many would find it difficult to get used to (and I am willing to bet that many of these thought the game is a mindless hack and slash but I digress) or just simply not fun. So tastes. And apparently some are facing technical issues and unresponsive commands, something that I have never experienced despite playing on very high setting.

And while yes the game suffers from little to no facial animations and not so great VA, I thought the story, and how it integrates choices, was superior to any RPG I've played, including Origins.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 02 juin 2011 - 11:23 .


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Knight: I think unresponsive commands equals not being able to block because of no vigor for most people.

I did face issues when my mouse suddely stopped working several times, but a reload fixed that quickly.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...


It looks lovely but the mechanics are overly complex and there are some very weird design decisions (you can only drink potions before a fight, not during - wtf?) I want to love it, I really do, but it's actually proving a bit of a chore. Hopefully I'll get past this once I'm used to it. I'm on PC, btw - perhaps it's more intuitive on console, I don't know.


Please don't tell me you find the mechanics "overly complex" because the game is kicking your ass....just seriously. There is a tutorial ( open journal and you will find it there ) but the developers did not feel like Bioware who is like" Let's make even the biggest moron be able to complete the game without giving them a real challenge" they felt the combat should pose a challenge to players, not something you just ignore.

I dunno. I started the game on Insane and I died 6 times before I realized how to finish the prologue properly, and even then I found it challenging...now I just breeze through it...it's not eays but compared to stuff like the Kayran, Draug and Dragon it most definetly is laughable!

As for potions, the developers probably did not want boss fights to ever become trivial by potion spamming ) like say Dragon Age Origins or DA2. Now they just buff you a little  or a lot in some areas but you suffer penalties in others.

There is no console version.


Why the random, back-handed slap to people who play video games on something other than their PC? Is that really necessary?

*drags knuckles across ground as I head off to work*