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[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Pretty much any chance of me ever taking the game seriously ended when I watched the You Tube clips of Harvestino and Meredith the Flying Ninja Templar with Soul Caliber. So, no headaches here. In fact, I've decided that, if it's too over the top, I will simply write off the whole of DA2 as just a really bad drug trip. Like, Hawke and Varrick got back from the deep roads, snorted a couple lines of that red lyrium crap, and never came down, so they are both now in rehab being interviewed by Dr. Cassandra. Who of course, naturally, they both believe is really a secret agent for the Feds. And naturally, Varrick believes Hawke has vanished into thin air despite sitting next to him. And hawke believes he's invisible.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I wish I could dismiss all of it like that. Thing is, like an idiot I pre-ordered and so paid 70$. It's hard for me to say that I spent them on a really bad drug trip.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Yeah, alot of people pre-ordered it, believing it was gonna be epic because they loved DAO and the trailers, and paid full price plus for special editions, yet felt it didn't deliver.

I did not pre-order because i was not terribly happy with alot of the info and news going on, as well as the initial release bugfest that seems to be in every vanilla Bioware game these days. (Mainly, Awakening). So, I decided to take a wait and see what the reviews were attitude first, and I am glad I did. I really wasn't expecting DA2 to generate the nerd rage and disappointment it did. For that, I can understand why people got pissed off. 70$ for only 40 bucks worth of gaming.

My jaw really dropped when I saw they were offering free downloads of ME2 for buying DA2. I was surprised.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I was very intrigued by the concepts of DA2. But the concepts were not implemented properly, or turned out to be lies (determining a rise to power, for instance).
For me, it's not worth 40. 20 max.

You made the smart decision.

[CalJones]

I pre-ordered it but didn't pay as much as you, thankfully.

[Addai]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Pretty much any chance of me ever taking the game seriously ended when I watched the You Tube clips of Harvestino and Meredith the Flying Ninja Templar with Soul Caliber. So, no headaches here. In fact, I've decided that, if it's too over the top, I will simply write off the whole of DA2 as just a really bad drug trip. Like, Hawke and Varrick got back from the deep roads, snorted a couple lines of that red lyrium crap, and never came down, so they are both now in rehab being interviewed by Dr. Cassandra. Who of course, naturally, they both believe is really a secret agent for the Feds. And naturally, Varrick believes Hawke has vanished into thin air despite sitting next to him. And hawke believes he's invisible.

I like that theory. lolol

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Addai67 wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Pretty much any chance of me ever taking the game seriously ended when I watched the You Tube clips of Harvestino and Meredith the Flying Ninja Templar with Soul Caliber. So, no headaches here. In fact, I've decided that, if it's too over the top, I will simply write off the whole of DA2 as just a really bad drug trip. Like, Hawke and Varrick got back from the deep roads, snorted a couple lines of that red lyrium crap, and never came down, so they are both now in rehab being interviewed by Dr. Cassandra. Who of course, naturally, they both believe is really a secret agent for the Feds. And naturally, Varrick believes Hawke has vanished into thin air despite sitting next to him. And hawke believes he's invisible.

I like that theory. lolol

It certainly would make more sense than the "official" story. In reality, what happened in kirkwall, is that after the deep roads expedition, Hawke and Varrick became spaced out street junkies, so naturally everything they claim to have witnessed comes from that bad batch of lyrium they were on. Everyone else in Kirkwall is actually quite normal, sane, competant, and humane. People got sick of Meredith's sh*t like shortly after she took power and lynched her. Cullen takes over, and is later is saved from a band of awakened gay  darkspawn ninjas by Anders and Ser Pounce while hunting apostates in Darktown, and decides maybe mages and cats are people after all, and pushes the Divine for massive reforms, resulting in Circles everywhere becoming happy utopias of templar/mage free peace and love. They become so awesome that apostates trip over each other to turn themselves in, maleficar forever swear off blood magic, necromancy, and demonology. Cats are officially declared divine manifestations of the Maker himself, and it is a capital offense in all Andrastian nations to bring harm to them. Justice and Anders are overwhelmed with joy, and Justice decides to go back to the Fade. Anders then happily turns himself in to the new and improved Club Mage- Kirkwall reception center.

The Qunari, being the intelligent, civilized race that they are, don't really give a sh*t that Isabella stole their stupid book, because they, being practical people, already have thousands of copies of it anyway. They are just in Kirkwall looking for the secret of cookies. The book is a lie. And Qunari don't have horns, naturally, that's just the bad drugs talking. Elves don't really look like squashed bugs, either. See why you should just say no to drugs, kiddies? A public service message from Bioware.

Naturally, during Varrick and Hawke's DA2 drug trip, major world shaking events did happen that hint to some massive twisted cosmic shaking cataclysm on the horizon. The fact that mages everywhere are happy and not hated is too much for Fenris to take, so he walks in the now open door circle and slaughters the mages. No one can believe that anyone would want to hurt those nice hippy mages, and upon discovering he's a Tevinter assassin cyborg machine, people everywhere believe it a Tevinter plot, and thus, war breaks out. Everyone's fighting everyone, except the mages, who have also given up combat and offensive magic forever. And in the meantime, a disturbing, dire epidemic is sweeping Thedas: 50% of children being born in all races are Cammen clones. And dogs everywhere are beganning to reject the new Cat-ocracy.

So the groundwork has been laid for DA3.

And speaking of drugs, trips, and kitties, just brought my little Missy Kitty back from the vet. Poor thing had an abcessed tooth and gum infection, and had to have a tooth pulled, so she was knocked out for the proceesdure and cleaning. She's still in la-la land, and occasionally, i lift her head and tilt her jaw to let her drool drain. Her head feels like a furry, purring lemon in my hand with the dead weight. Cats are awesome, even when comatose.

[KnightofPhoenix]

LOL I actually might find that even more engaging than what we got.

And awww, hope she gets better soon.

[AstoundingArcaneArcher]

Skadi, you are hereby the new main writer for Bioware. May you and your cat reign over those who created Dragon Age 2 and turned it in a bad acid trip version of itself.

Hail to cats!

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

If I had my way, in DA3, the templar/vs mages conflict would be limited to Cullen and Anders mud wrestling in loincloths (For hetero men or ****** women, you get the Chantry vs Heathens oil wrestling match featuring Morrigan and Leliana in leather dominatrix boots). You spend the game trying to earn the soverigns to get into the match. You can earn your coin to purchase your tickets....by any means necessary. Slave trading. Arms running. Espinoage and Treason. Accidentally causing another Blight. Genocide. Becoming Cammen's rent boy. Any vile means goes, morality is now a curiosity of the past.

So long as you earn the coin to get into the matches, anything is justified. There's your awesome button. What more you need?

[AstoundingArcaneArcher]

One word:cookies.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

There will be cookies, because there will be Qunari there as well. Diplomats and scientists in an envoy to discover the secret of cookies. You choose to sell them wholesome batches of delicous natural Kirkwall Circle Scout cookies, or you can switch them for a poisoned batch and get enough money for front row seats.. Of course, poisoning the Qunari ends up causing a world war that ends up wiping out half of Thedas, but hey, man. Front Row Seats! And it's not like it YOUR half of Thedas, anyway....

[Addai]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

If I had my way, in DA3, the templar/vs mages conflict would be limited to Cullen and Anders mud wrestling in loincloths (For hetero men or ****** women, you get the Chantry vs Heathens oil wrestling match featuring Morrigan and Leliana in leather dominatrix boots). You spend the game trying to earn the soverigns to get into the match. You can earn your coin to purchase your tickets....by any means necessary. Slave trading. Arms running. Espinoage and Treason. Accidentally causing another Blight. Genocide. Becoming Cammen's rent boy. Any vile means goes, morality is now a curiosity of the past.

So long as you earn the coin to get into the matches, anything is justified. There's your awesome button. What more you need?

Cullen and Anders both have the appeal of a stale potato chip that came out from under a sofa cushion.

Sorry, Skadi, you lost me there. 

Loghain and Varric mud wrestling... now you're talking.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Addai67 wrote...


Cullen and Anders both have the appeal of a stale potato chip that came out from under a sofa cushion.

Sorry, Skadi, you lost me there. 

Loghain and Varric mud wrestling... now you're talking.

That's what toolsets are for. :wub:

Speaking of which, I'm guessing there are zero plans to release a DA2 toolset?

[Addai]

I'm pretty sure we can kiss that notion goodbye. They're not going to let modders do for free what people will pay EAware for, a la "item packs" as in Mass Effect.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

God, if they would actually go the extra yard and create new models in their downloadable shinies, instead of recolored redundant old armor and weapon models with overpowered stats, sales on "item packs" would not be dented. I mean, at least for DAO, you got a sort of plot and story and quest along with your recolored overpowered gear. Toolsets just enhance the longevity of interest and replayability of the game.

Of course, consoles don't have toolsets, and they seem to wish to encourage console over PC play. Unfortunately, console users regardless get screwed, because they still have to play games that after 4 patches, still have alot of serious bugs. And they are stuck with whatever is in game or purchase via DLC. They have zero chance of modifying anything in game.

The last console I ever owned was PS1. And then I discovered how insanely customizable the same games on the computer were, I switched for good.

[KnightofPhoenix]

A toolset would increase my willingness to replay the game from "I can't even imagine doing it again" to "meh if I have nothing to do, I might play it again".

[Persephone]

Addai67 wrote...

I'm pretty sure we can kiss that notion goodbye. They're not going to let modders do for free what people will pay EAware for, a la "item packs" as in Mass Effect.

Worked out for DAO though, mind you. And until there is a definite answer, I'll not give up hope.

And must people call Bioware that? It's just so......juvenile.

[Persephone]

And now I can't even visit THIS thread anymore to get away from the constant DAII bashing.

Lovely.

*Shuts the door behind her*

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yea one day we "bashers" are going to take over the entire site.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 12 juillet 2011 - 03:33 .

[Persephone]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea one day we "bashers" are going to take over the entire site.

It'll be the day I hope the damn thing implodes because of an overload of......

Never mind.

[Zjarcal]

Persephone wrote...

It'll be the day I hope the damn thing implodes because of an overload of......

Finish your thought... now I'm intrigued as to what kind of overload it will be. 

And the pony here loves DA2 Perse, it's not all "bashers" in here. 

Eh, at least this thread still lives, regardless of what people are talking about.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Persephone wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea one day we "bashers" are going to take over the entire site.

It'll be the day I hope the damn thing implodes because of an overload of......

Vitriol? Angst? Hatred? Douchebagery?

Meh, I personally did not bash, I presented my opinion to someone who is asking about it.

[Addai]

Persephone wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I'm pretty sure we can kiss that notion goodbye. They're not going to let modders do for free what people will pay EAware for, a la "item packs" as in Mass Effect.

Worked out for DAO though, mind you. And until there is a definite answer, I'll not give up hope.

And must people call Bioware that? It's just so......juvenile.

It's just the hard truth as far as I can see.  They're homogenizing their games, trying to appeal to the mass market, and forced to go along with idiot marketing shenanigans.  Origins was mostly developed before EA, so it got in under the wire.  EA just strikes me as one of those companies who are about the bottom line more than customers.

Oh, and chapter 31 of The Arrangement... subtitled "someone take away my keyboard, I can't believe this madness is still going on."

P.S. Perse, you really shouldn't take DA2 criticism personally.  It's bound to keep ruining your day.

Modifié par Addai67, 12 juillet 2011 - 04:42 .

[CalJones]

Keep your keyboard. And here's a ball and chain to make sure you finish the bloody thing. I'm still enjoying it. How many chapters do you think you have left?

Persephone, don't go. As aware of its flaws as I am, I still enjoy DA2. The story is disjointed, the writing and production rushed, but the gameplay is actually fun.

As for EA, that's always been the case, but these days they are no worse than any other big publisher. I think Bioware has learned something from DA2 - hopefully EA will allow them to do a better job on DA3.

I hope Cullen is a joinable NPC, as it happens. I fancy corrupting that bashful templar boy. And if it's set in Orlais, as I suspect it will be, here's hoping for a cameo from Warden Loghain. <3

Modifié par CalJones, 12 juillet 2011 - 06:39 .