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[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...

Hmm, can't really say I was impressed with Awakening's story, what little there was of it anyway. Actually I didn't even feel it really had much of a story.

I still enjoyed the expansion as a whole, but I didn't feel the plot was strong in any way really. I did enjoy the story bits in Kal-Hirol though, that stuff was awesome.

It could have been better for sure, with less Mother and more of the Architect.

But it had a much more focused plot (all main plots fed into the central plot) and did a better job conveying the illusion of power than Origins.

[BlazingSpeed]

"I do like cameos, I don't think that there were too many. Just like
Costin said, just badly implemented. I think if Cullen was to be to
Kirkwall, it would have been more interesting to see him as a rogue
templar starting an extremist anti-mage underground or something like
that."

Yeah, didn't the elpilouge in DA:O say that Cullen disappeared after killing a random mage just like Conner disappears if you spare him?

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Well, Cullen only goes completely psycho if you are a mage and ask for the circle to be free. Otherwise, he is not mentioned, unless you annul the circle. He takes over the place and makes it even more unpleasant, ruling with cruelty and fear. In otherwords, interestingly, the anulled circle epilogues basically state that Cullen becomes Meredith #2 at the Ferelden Circle.

And Connor only disappears in the epilogue if you let the desire demon return later in exchange for something. Otherwise, he goes to the Circle, becomes a pretty good mages, and even goes off to Tevinter to further the study of the Fade.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

*snatches this thread off Page 2 with a celebration of her PS3's decision to like her new HDMI cable. . .*



"Nighttime" atmosphere courtesy of whatever weird light-sensors exist in my camera phone. I tried different settings and turned ambient lights on and off; it still insisted this shot was going to be taken at "night". I guess I can see why. All we need now are 3 wolves and I think we have a rockin' T-shirt.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 18 juillet 2011 - 12:24 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Wow, nice pic! It definitely suits Loghain. I've always thought that if he had an element, it would be ice. Cold, hard, unyielding resolve. Flips the bird to the sun and refuses to melt. :wub:

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Wow, nice pic! It definitely suits Loghain. I've always thought that if he had an element, it would be ice. Cold, hard, unyielding resolve. Flips the bird to the sun and refuses to melt. :wub:

You'd think so, but then this happens:



This was from the exact same game load as the other pic, and I did absolutely nothing to construct it. All I did was move my Mage over to this side of the mountaintop path, and he followed for some romantic scenery-gazing. Or something. *shrugs helplessly*

[Morwen Eledhwen]

By the way, Skadi, I am loving the accessories in your profile pic.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 18 juillet 2011 - 12:56 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Oh, thanks! Those are just part of the look of the mage robes i downloaded. If there is one thing I must say improved in DA2 is the look of mage robes and choice in general. DAO it's simply too painful anymopre to use vanilla robes.

Is that Fade Wall Loghain has equipped in that picture, or is it another shield to which you changed that livery on? That's one thing I always thought was awesome about that particular shield is the wolf's head livery on it. I wonder if it's random, or if it has some signifigance.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

That is indeed the Fade Wall. I'm on the PS3 so I gotta use what they give me --no changing stuff around. I have always given Loghain the Fade Wall, even in my S/S playthrough (my Cousland snatched Duncan's shield from Alistair before he made his exit). It seems to suit him (Loghain), with the wolf and all. I don't know if it is random, or why Gaxkang in particular is carrying it. I had to fight Gaxkang quite a few times in my Cousland playthrough to make him cough that up. Incidentally, the fight with Gaxkang is another great spot besides the Landsmeet to hear lots of fun Loghain in-fight vocalizations <3:wub: --and you don't have to let him nearly kill you! :happy:

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

But that's 95% of the pleasure in fighting Loghain.....all those lusty vocalizations while he's trying to dismember you.

I've often wondered about the fade Wall and gaxkangg, if there's any actual connection, or it was just stuck as a cookie on him. But yes, wolf suits Loghain nicely. And it really is a pain in the ass to get off Gaxxy, I know. I've done the multiple reload a time or too.

[Addai]

Skadi what is that mage robe? Not that I can play right now- we are still trying to get Origins working again after the unauthorized DLC bug and several re-installs.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

It's called Nightingale, and it's from this mod:

www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php

It's a colelction of robes. Some are purely for show (and obviously, not for public use), but there's a few robes and pieces of armor that are pretty neat looking without being over the top. Kinda like Tears of Lilith.

The only thing that sucks about the rube is that equiping a mage hat will at least override the robe's default pillbox/earrings combo, though they will show up for cut scenes when it's removed.

I do wish someone would make a mod with new mage headgear models. Those hoods still make me weep.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

But that's 95% of the pleasure in fighting Loghain.....all those lusty vocalizations while he's trying to dismember you.

Well, I don't know how it is on the PC, but on the PS3 at least, getting to the Landsmeet duel means going through the whole damn Landsmeet from your entrance with Alistair right on through. So I'll do it once --and if I accidentally enjoy letting Loghain pound on me a little too much and die, I'll do it twice-- but it's not something you'd want to keep reloading. Even skipping through all the dialogue, it takes longer than I'm willing to wait; and it's tough to skip the Loghain rants. . .But with Gaxkang, reloading is easy if you save outside the door to the Quaint Hovel. Enter hovel, have a word with the Unbound, he says "Witness Gaxkang!" and you're away. :happy:

I've often wondered about the fade Wall and gaxkangg, if there's any actual connection, or it was just stuck as a cookie on him. But yes, wolf suits Loghain nicely. And it really is a pain in the ass to get off Gaxxy, I know. I've done the multiple reload a time or too.

I have a feeling there was originally going to be more Gaxkang in the story. You find out almost nothing about him except that people trying to find him disappear, and some other people are really scared, and then when you encounter him he says a couple of cryptic things which are mostly *not* about himself, and then you fight him and he dies and leaves no explanation about who he is or what he's been doing or why he's in Denerim. Oh, and he's also like the hardest damn boss in the game. I've been fortunate in that he gave up the Fade Wall to my first 4 PCs in like the 1st or 2nd try; only my Cousland had to kill him about half a dozen times before he coughed it up. But by my 5th playthrough, it was no problem for me to just keep reloading and beating him. It was just a question of who would wind up with the kill on his (or her) scorecard in the end, and how much snarly Loghain I got to hear in-battle.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

We actually get more clue to who Gaxxkang is in DA2 than DAO where we fight him. Yeah, that whole "forgotten ones" or whatever thing trips me out, I really do hope they expand more into that weird background crap going on. I am really curious as to what exactly it was my mage slew, and how it fits into Thedas as a whole. Ifg it turns out to be something lame, I shall be angry.

My mage is AW, so there was no way I was not getting that shield for her. it pretty much stays with her until I find the Landsmeet shield in awakening, or Wade makes one out of the heartwood.

On the PC, if you lose the Landsmeet or choose to fight Loghain anyway, I think there's an autosave before that battle, and that's when I get my Loggy kicks, because he can take alot more abuse then before going down. And it's a chance to enjoy the various and amusing vocalizations during certain spells.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Is that Fade Wall Loghain has equipped in that picture, or is it another shield to which you changed that livery on? That's one thing I always thought was awesome about that particular shield is the wolf's head livery on it. I wonder if it's random, or if it has some signifigance.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the Dread Wolf.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

On the PC, if you lose the Landsmeet or choose to fight Loghain anyway, I think there's an autosave before that battle, and that's when I get my Loggy kicks, because he can take alot more abuse then before going down. And it's a chance to enjoy the various and amusing vocalizations during certain spells.

*Sigh* I stupidly saved over my pre-Gaxkang saved game after he finally dropped the Fade Wall, so I can't go back for some easily-reached Loghain battle joy. *pounds head* I do, however, have a pre-High Dragon save with my Cousland, but it makes for bad Loghain fighting because the beloved Andraste ALWAYS chews up Loghain and spits him out. ALWAYS. Even though my Cousland is a big huge aggro tank Champion in Threaten mode going "Hey, over here, Your Highness!", she goes for her favorite crunchy treat every time. Even if Morrigan Revives him, he just gets crunched up again. Andraste is no fun.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

@KoP: That would be awesome if it did.

@Morwen: Can you blame Andraste for wanting Loghain immediately? If I was a dragon, I'd certainly scoop him up im my maw...and then run off to my lair with him. And hold him as my love slave.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

@Morwen: Can you blame Andraste for wanting Loghain immediately? If I was a dragon, I'd certainly scoop him up im my maw...and then run off to my lair with him. And hold him as my love slave.

True --but it's made me stop bringing Loghain to dragon fights. He just doesn't survive long enough to be worth it. And if I want to revive him, it means I have to waste Morrigan skill points on learning the spell, or else bring Wynne. *pouts* At least my Cousland survives when a High Dragon crunches him up. Flemeth got him twice, actually --but then Loghain wasn't around, so she didn't have anything else to do.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Mmmmmmm....all this talk about Loghain getting devoured alive by gigantic lovesick lady reptiles is making me want to go take a cold shower........

never brought Loghain to a dragon fight. everytime I've played DA, by the time Landsmeet rolls around, any dragons who are meant to be dead in that playthrough already are. Of course, for me, if I did save a dragon for Loggy, it wouldn't be a problem since I'm on PC, and thus, have the respec mods to rebuild Loghain into a more suitable build. It's one thing that sucks about consoles. From a purely gameplay point of view, for most people, it makes more sense mechanically to keep Alistair, since you've had him the whole game and could build/customize him in a manner that best augments your party. By the time you get Loghain, it's too late, he's already been built up, and for most people, his build is not compatible with what they have built their own parties into. However, on a PC, it's different, and when I do decide to spare Loghain, I can freely respec him to be compatible. Viva la PC!

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Mmmmmmm....all this talk about Loghain getting devoured alive by gigantic lovesick lady reptiles is making me want to go take a cold shower........

never brought Loghain to a dragon fight. everytime I've played DA, by the time Landsmeet rolls around, any dragons who are meant to be dead in that playthrough already are. Of course, for me, if I did save a dragon for Loggy, it wouldn't be a problem since I'm on PC, and thus, have the respec mods to rebuild Loghain into a more suitable build. It's one thing that sucks about consoles. From a purely gameplay point of view, for most people, it makes more sense mechanically to keep Alistair, since you've had him the whole game and could build/customize him in a manner that best augments your party. By the time you get Loghain, it's too late, he's already been built up, and for most people, his build is not compatible with what they have built their own parties into. However, on a PC, it's different, and when I do decide to spare Loghain, I can freely respec him to be compatible. Viva la PC!

I have no problem with auto-leveled Loghain except for the fact that he dies when Andraste or Flemeth decides to gnaw on him for a bit, which they always do, but that's not his fault that he's so tasty. But then, everyone else in my party dies in that situation, too; my Cousland survives because he's gotten the stat boosts in the Fade and is wearing the Key to the City and the Helm of Honnleath and the Warden's Oath and Maker knows what else, and his health is at like 340. I also like to get to the Landsmeet as quickly as possible so I leave as much as I can undone beforehand (except Flemeth, and now I guess Andraste is off the table too). So I get Loghain at level 19 or 20 and he levels up at least a couple of times before the end. *shrugs* And he's way better than Alistair even on auto-level. I think the Darkspawn just have to hear "DIE, BLAST YOU!" and they keel over.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

It depends on how you build your part. For most of my playthroughs, Loghain makes a poor tank with regards to the party needs in his vanilla mode, sowhen i do recruit him, I must respec him to make him useful to me (other than providing my eye, ear, and mind candy, which he does perfectly well in full virginal vanilla mode).

Though I do love hearning him complaining he's to old after getting up from a knock out. How much I'd love to hear him say that after a weekend at Skadi's Torture chamber of love............

[DragonRacer13]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

Wow, nice pic! It definitely suits Loghain. I've always thought that if he had an element, it would be ice. Cold, hard, unyielding resolve. Flips the bird to the sun and refuses to melt. :wub:

You'd think so, but then this happens:



This was from the exact same game load as the other pic, and I did absolutely nothing to construct it. All I did was move my Mage over to this side of the mountaintop path, and he followed for some romantic scenery-gazing. Or something. *shrugs helplessly*

Is it just me, or does it look like he's sneaking his right hand into your mage's robes for a little bum groping action?

HOT 

[Monica21]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Though I do love hearning him complaining he's to old after getting up from a knock out. How much I'd love to hear
him say that after a weekend at Skadi's Torture chamber of love............

You're equal parts hilarious and terrifying, I hope you know.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

DragonRacer13 wrote...

Is it just me, or does it look like he's sneaking his right hand into your mage's robes for a little bum groping action?

HOT 

Hahaha --that must be why she's giving him that look. "Ahem --there is a big dead dragon and a catty Dwarf right behind us. . ."

This one is a little more chaste --just hand-holding:




D'aww.

By the way, DragonRacer, wtf is up with "The Hand We're Dealt"?!? Kal and Loghain have been waiting to exchange meaningful gifts (and whatever else comes up ) for freakin' EVER! <_<

[DragonRacer13]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

DragonRacer13 wrote...

Is it just me, or does it look like he's sneaking his right hand into your mage's robes for a little bum groping action?

HOT 

Hahaha --that must be why she's giving him that look. "Ahem --there is a big dead dragon and a catty Dwarf right behind us. . ."

This one is a little more chaste --just hand-holding:




D'aww.

By the way, DragonRacer, wtf is up with "The Hand We're Dealt"?!? Kal and Loghain have been waiting to exchange meaningful gifts (and whatever else comes up ) for freakin' EVER! <_<

*hangs head in horrible shame and guilt*

I KNOW, I know!

I actually do feel terrible, for this is the longest delay I've had. I'm seriously considering messaging all my faithful reviewers and apologizing/explaining.

The truth of the matter is this: I sent the chapter off to my beta.... she got it back to me RIGHT when we experienced a death in the family... the death was not exactly unexpected, but it still completely knocked the wind out of me, no less... but I've finally dragged myself out of the mucky sadness and have had the revised chapter sitting in her inbox for about 2 weeks now. I've given her another poke via email about it. If I don't hear anything by Thursday, I am going to go ahead and publish it Friday night with an extended apology to my readers.

The chapter after that is currently in writing. Will be working more on it after work today.