Darkrider296 wrote...
Well to bad if I sicken you, I think Loghain is a bastard who deserves to die no matter what. In reality a man like that would have to be executed or put in prison for life. No other option is rational. He may have been a hero at one point but people sometimes change not for the better. He damn well knew what he was doing at Ostagar and he allied himself with some one as sickening as Arl Howe, you know murder of the Couslands and their entire estate. Theres no way Loghain didn't know about. And lets not forgot about all of the Elves he sold into slavery some of which were childern. Bastard thinks he knows whats best yeah right. Plus Anora is a cold calculating ****, look at how she jumps up so fast to be Queen even with her father's fresh blood on her Plus lets not forget how she sold u out when u were trying to save her. Better option is a hardened Alistair. He's a tough but fair ruler.
So yeah I like butchering Loghain in front of Anora 
Loghain let his paranoia about Orlais get the better of him - that is what drove him to do what he did. Nothing he did was out of sheer malevolence - he felt everything he did was for the greater good, whether he was actually right to do it or not. Howe, on the other hand, was just an evil man who slaughtered and tortured his way to the top - possibly having more power and influence than Loghain himself does at one point.
What Loghain
was right to do was pull out of Ostagar. There was no way that battle could've been won - the darkspawn were too many. Even if they had won the battle on that night, the next would have just brought an even larger horde than before - and the king's forces would've still been overwhelmed by numbers alone. Loghain's withdrawal from Ostagar saved more lives than it ultimately cost.
I'm curious as to who you put on the throne in Orzammar - would you deny that Bhelen is the better king? His methods were no less devious that anything Loghain ended up doing, and they both think they're doing what's best for their people. The only difference is that Bhelen is ultimately right to do what he does, whereas Loghain isn't.
Would you also deny that Anora is the better ruler of Ferelden? She governed the country for several years while Cailan gallivanted about - and conspired to leave Anora for the Empress of an enemy nation. Alistair might be a fine man, but he is no king - not at first, at least. He certainly wouldn't do as well as he does without people like Eamon and the Warden around to give him a nudge in the right direction.
Say what you will, but Loghain is no fiend. He is a good man who let his grief and paranoia drive him to do the wrong things. After sparing several murderers and crowning a dwarven tyrant, I think Loghain deserves a chance to redeem himself - and he always does.
Modifié par greengoron89, 24 août 2011 - 07:53 .