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[Addai]

I have no interest in SWTOR and am too absorbed in Skyrim to be tempted away.

[tklivory]

I have a friend who's been in the beta since it started, and he's said enough (unfortunately) that made me not too interested in playing it. But then, I'm not really into MMO, TBH.

And I'm sooo jealous of all you Skyrim people. *sniff* Somedaaaaay...

[Morwen Eledhwen]

tklivory wrote...

I have a friend who's been in the beta since it started, and he's said enough (unfortunately) that made me not too interested in playing it.

Oh really? Like what?

But then, I'm not really into MMO, TBH.

I've never actually played one. But I'm sure that n00bs are just as valuable for testing out all the stupid n00b things that can happen as veterans are for the other stuff. I doubt I'd actually buy the game unless it absolutely blows me away, but this might be a good way to check out an MMO without having to commit to it.

[tklivory]

@ Morwen - My friend is very much into MMOs, and he said that Bioware seems to be making some mistakes that shouldn't be there. One example that comes to mind is item spawning: items (particularly quest items) spawn on a schedule, so you have to essentially wait around for a few minutes before the item will appear if you miss it the first time. He said once that he fought a group of enemies to get access to a quest item, got killed, and while he was waiting to recover, another player swooped in and grabbed the quest item, so when my friend recovered, he had to wait around for quest item to respawn again (and was a little miffed that the other player got the benefit of his death).

He also said the auction house/system was still a real WIP, as in he couldn't even access it successfully most of the time.

I don't remember the other comments off the top of my head, but if you want I can ask him the next time I see him. The impression I got from him is that overall, the 'Bioware' parts of it were fine (writing, acting, etc) but the MMO aspects of its were lacking, unpolished, or still so WIP it was hard to really evaluate them. He did mention it felt a bit like single-player game mechanics shoved into an MMO, but as I don't play MMOs I wasn't exactly sure what that meant....

Sorry for long ramble. Hopefully there is some elucidation in there for you.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

No, that did help, thanks. I was a little curious about how the whole marriage of single-player RPG where you get to choose from a set list of available companions to travel with you, with a MMO in which you could be occupying the same space and attempting to complete the same mission with any number of other players, all of whom could be accompanied by the same companion, might work. I wonder if that was one of the things your friend was talking about.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 18 novembre 2011 - 06:10 .

[tklivory]

Hmmm, could be. I'll make a point to ask him next time I see him.

[CalJones]

That brings back memories of Ultima Online and the rare item spawn. I remember the scramble for fruit baskets that spawned once a day (a much prized home decor item!) - even if you knew where they were going to spawn, you had no chance of grabbing it if you weren't using illegal macros. Heh.

As far as SW:TOR goes, yeah, looks nice and all but after burying seven years of my life into UO, I'm staying away from MMOs. I loved every minute but I ended up running a guild and it turned me into a stressed-out and cranky ****.

[Mike3207]

I just read a comment on another forum where the person said that Skyrim was better than Origins. Those of you who have played it-is it that good? I realize they're totally different games.

[Addai]

It's that good.

[Brockololly]

Mike Smith wrote...

I just read a comment on another forum where the person said that Skyrim was better than Origins. Those of you who have played it-is it that good? I realize they're totally different games.

I'd say its right up there with Origins and Baldur's Gate 2 and The Witcher as one of my all time favorite RPGs.

[Joy Divison]

OK, I got Skyrim and I'll just say wow. I never played any of the other Bethesda games so I don't know how it compares to them, but it's worth every penny. 

About the only major thing that bothers me is that it is so console oriented that the designers didn't even bother to implement basic PC functionality - How does it NOT have a toolbar for hotkeys?!?!

Or is Skyrim the handwriting on the wall that consoles rule gaming now? Wasn't it just a few years ago all they could do was Madden and Grand Theft Auto?

RE: Mike Smith - I'm not done with it, so my opinion might change.  I'd say Origins was a bit more fulfilling gaming experience bc/ it had very poignant role-playing aspects which I'm guessing Bethesda isn't trying to offer.  Then again, Origins is easily one of my top 3 games ever and it will be hard for anything to beat it.  I'm very impressed by the level of detail that went into Skyrim and I'm just learning of the story and it's also very compelling.  The fact it also has slow-mo killing blows with my greatsword of death is a plus!

Modifié par Joy Divison, 23 novembre 2011 - 05:26 .

[Addai]

Bethesda embraced consolism a long time ago, it seems. However they do offer mod support and most people say their games are best played with mods. I never used mods for Fallout 3 or Oblivion myself. I'll probably mod Skyrim eventually.

[Plaintiff]

Mike Smith wrote...

I just read a comment on another forum where the person said that Skyrim was better than Origins. Those of you who have played it-is it that good? I realize they're totally different games.

I wouldn't compare them, honestly.

Origins is very plot-oriented with a core cast of characters that are thoroughly fleshed out. Skyrim has nothing like that same level of depth, but as is typical with Bethesda games, there's a lot more to do and explore. In terms of the world and lore, Skyrim is very rich and full, like all  Elder Scrolls games. But let's be fair, they've had four previous games and well over a decade (two?) to work on constructing it all. Dragon Age is still a very young franchise.

As far as I'm concerned, both series are fantastic at what they do.

[Addai]

Plaintiff wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, both series are fantastic at what they do.

I love the direction one franchise is going, not so much for DA.

New Loghain art by caiterhe

Modifié par Addai67, 26 novembre 2011 - 02:51 .

[Costin_Razvan]

"Dragon age? What's Dragon age?"

Carver: I am not a joke.
Hawke: No you're a lazy brat with a chip on your shoulder.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 novembre 2011 - 03:17 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Addai67 wrote...
New Loghain art by caiterhe

[Morwen Eledhwen]

^ Just recovered from seeing that over on devArt. What KoP said.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 26 novembre 2011 - 05:33 .

[tklivory]

That is a marvelous piece of art. The emotion captured in their mien is striking. Thanks for posting it, Addai! There's not enough Loghain art in my files, and to see one that reinforces that special relationship between father and daughter, well... As a daughter, it certainly tugs at my ol' heartstrings.

Plus, I'm a sucker for (well-done) dramatic line-art work... Simplicity in art reflecting the stark emotion within the moment...

[Eustacia]

Addai67 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

As far as I'm concerned, both series are fantastic at what they do.

I love the direction one franchise is going, not so much for DA.

New Loghain art by caiterhe

*sadsnip*

Same here. The ES are only getting better.

By the way, that piece of art is fantastic. 

"Daughters never grow up. They are six-years-old with pigtails and skinned knees....forever."

Modifié par Eustacia, 26 novembre 2011 - 08:23 .

[CalJones]

Amazing art, technically and emotionally.

@KoP/Costin - took your advice and have been playing Alpha Protocol solidly for the past few weeks. A few minor things were irritating but overall, loved it. Gutted that there won't be a sequel, though - that franchise has a lot of potential. Ah well. Human Revolution is in the post.

[Costin_Razvan]

 Thorton is a magnificent Bastard

Also Revan is going to be in SW:TOR. Some suspect ( I mean some NPCs who formed a cult to learn from his teachings suspect he is the Emperor since the Emperor has secluded himself for decades at least ) but he is also a boss fight in a instance.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 novembre 2011 - 12:03 .

[CalJones]

Ha, yes, I like that ending. It took me three or four playthroughs before I decided to "side" with Halbech because that seemed like the bad thing to do, but the way it played out was more satifying in the end.

I've explored most of the possibilities in the game but the only things I've not been able to do include leaving your handler to die (or killing them) in the Brayko mission, killing Deng and going after Madison instead of the bomb. The needs of the many, etc. Oh and siding with Shaheed, obviously. I let him live on one playthrough but I wouldn't go as far as to side with him for obvious reasons.

[KnightofPhoenix]

You never really side with Shaheed. You enlist his support (and what he does is a huge blow to Parker's plan, thus necessary to impress him), and potentially end up more or less using them for your own ends.

[Costin_Razvan]

It is not sidding with terrorists. It is using the terrorists for your own ends.

Which I think Thorton would do.

[Bleachrude]

 Skyrim is an Elder Scrolls game.

The characters and the storyline have never been the big draw for the Elder Scrolls (indeed, the "condemned prisoner who escapes" opening is the same opening from the last 3 elder scrolls game)

Elder Scroll games are about the exploration and the interaction with the world itself (not the NPCs but the objects itself).

I'm with Mike Smith there that they are two entirely different experiences....

Now, if someone could combine the two it would be the greatest RPG ever but the resources used would require that the game have to sell Call of Duty type numbers