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[Costin_Razvan]

Anyway on the ME3 front. here's the Galaxy map Knight. So it seems they woke the **** up and humanity doesn't have an area as big as the Council does...that said it has half.

And here's my walkthrough of the demo so far: http://www.youtube.c...694DFC177B0B935

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 15 février 2012 - 12:41 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

That's more than half. 2/3 like. Still makes no sense.

[Costin_Razvan]

It's the same size of Inner Council Space as I see it, and a bit bigger then the outer council Space.

Of course the catch is that humanity very likely has SERIOUS security concerns. They have a lot of colonies but not enough ships. Where as the Turians, Salarians and Asari have fewer colonies but stronger fleets.

[Chewin]

You're forgetting they lost colonies during the "Collectors Era" in ME2. The Alliance's area isn't as big as it was before.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Addai67 wrote...

I saw that study, too, and am just as incredulous. Some of it might be put down to the oversexualization of society in general- people take any kind of intimacy or vulnerability to be sex or "sexual tension." Of course this may just be my bias since I'm whatever Kinsey number means "dude or nothing."

I have even seen studies in animals, where normal social or instinctual behavior is classed as "homosexuality". like grooming, playing, ect between members of the same sex. This is the problem with many of these "studies" is that they are lumping any positive same sex interaction as homosexual, and thus, seem to have lost the plot on what the definition of gay is. Homosexuality, in the most comprehensive terms possible, is the physical, sexual, and romantic attraction to members of the same sex. Period. Wrestling, grooming, hugging, social kissing, ect, does not constitute being gay. Having sex with, or sexual desires for, or forming intimate romantic relationships with, mebers of your own sex, does. And this does happen, to a certain extent, amongst higher mamals and birds.

Yes, i think the oversexualization of society is responsible for these biases, especially when it comes to women. It sounds more like wishful thinking in the minds of alot of adolescent males that most girls are secretly bi. Have no clue what my Kinsey number would be, since I've never taken the test. never saw the need. I like boys. And I know this.

All this by the by anyway. I'm more annoyed by the assumption that a mage-templar conflict is sort of a fantasy version of Occupy Kirkwall. As an example someone on tumblr posted some anti-Catholic screed and ended with "boom goes the Chantry." Yeah. I didn't care for the mage-templar stuff before, but that just solidifies my distaste for where the story is going, even if Gaider and Hepler were trying to balance it out by showing moderate templars and divines. Those were just so hamhanded that the whole story kind of flopped in their wake. I was kind of hoping Gaider's novel might rescue my interest, but then I heard it featured Wynne and Leliana. *bleeeeecccchhhh*

Haven't been paying attention to any of it. Haven't read Asunder or any of the surrounding bits, haven't even played the second DLC. But I agree with Knight, it seems like the whole conflict shall continue to be faught by nameless, cloned blocks of factions peopled by zealots, morons, or dumbasses standing around waiting for the next PC to come and fix everything. Because everyone involved is too retarded to think intelligently. All to make the PC look and feel unbelievably more important and smart than they should be. The only way they could really rekindle my interest at this point, is if the option to nuke every building, city, and country you come across in Thedas should be available.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
All to make the PC look and feel unbelievably more important and smart than they should be.

And yet, I always felt Shepard was an imbecile and I don't even need to say what I felt about Hawke.
Their strategy is not working.

People shine when they are surrounded by excellence.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

And yet, I always felt Shepard was an imbecile and I don't even need to say what I felt about Hawke.
Their strategy is not working.

People shine when they are surrounded by excellence.

Not just that. It's really a hallow victory if you can defeat everyone simply because they are retards, or too useless to live. Like winning a kung fu match against a parapalegic lobotomized junkie. And you are limited by a protagonist who is a paralegic lobotomized junkie, but with MINIGUNS.

Shepherd's problem is being driven down a very simplistic, dual morality path in which they are either a complete naieve tool, or a complete psycho bastard. No opportunity for more balanced or mixed views. Me1 I paragaded my way through, and later discovered I missed out on some pretty cool **** because i didn't go one or the other. So in ME2, I renegaded my way through. if I'm gonna be railroaded one way or another, in a universe filled with petty morons, might as well make everyone else suffer. Though I still blew up the collector base. Had to be a bastard to TIM and Cerberus too.

[Addai]

LOL Skadi, you always make me laugh. By the sheer force of your good sense.

[Fiery Knight]

Chewin3 wrote...

You're forgetting they lost colonies during the "Collectors Era" in ME2. The Alliance's area isn't as big as it was before.

So it was a lot bigger than that? Great...

[Costin_Razvan]

Hawke_12 wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

You're forgetting they lost colonies during the "Collectors Era" in ME2. The Alliance's area isn't as big as it was before.

So it was a lot bigger than that? Great...

No it wasn't. The human colonies were in Terminus Systems and not governed by the Alliance.

As for lacking the needed Paragon/Renegade points for the important decisions in ME1.....uhm that actually doesn't depend on your Paragon/Renegade points that much. It depends on how many points you have in charm or intimidate talents. If you don't have full charm talent points you can't make Saren commit suicide for instance via Paragon dialogue.

I have to repeat what I said before in this thread. NEVER once in either ME game did I ever encounter a situation where I could not have one or both Charm and Intimidate. So no offense Skadi, I think you spent your talent points badly.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 16 février 2012 - 12:10 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

BS. You can't max charm or intimidate unless you have a certain amount of paragon / renegade points respectively.

I had as much charm points as I could have and I still wasn't able to convince Saren to commit suicide. I couldn't max intimidate either, because I was almost entirely in the middle (hence why I also never got any of the "morality" missions).

[Costin_Razvan]

Oh. I forgot about that..seing as I only ever played ME1 4 times, and only twice on new characters that I did not reuse.

Anyway "shrug" Beisdes making Saren commiting suicide is there anythig worth it? Sure you can make Wrex stand down, but I always had his armor so I managed to get him to back down, besides it's not like he requires a high score anyway.

Then there's Jeong who requires a very high score...frankly I just shoot him.

The only thing I remember was that I choose to be nice to Conrand instead of an ass from the begining to the end, though yes it was cringe worthy ( pulling the gun on him is epic but I only did that in my most recent playthrough ).

I find the Renegade Shepard in both games to be so stupid and silly. Paragon, with a few notable exceptions is as idiotic as Renegade, at least not as idiotic as

"You can exxpect me to kill you the next time we meet." I fall down laughing when I think of that line but seriously. watching Renegade Shepard is like watching the Expendables.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 16 février 2012 - 02:32 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

I've exhausted the fun I could get from Shepard after 4 playthroughs in ME1 and 3 ME2. Now he just irritates me.

Anyways, what you said about Emhyr in the Witcher forums. When does that happen chronologically? Should we expect it to happen in TW3?

[Costin_Razvan]

Personally I don't have any desire to replay ME1...well ever.

As for ME2...still playing it right now, though to be frank that's mostly because of the combat ( same goes for the Witcher 2 mind you ).

As for Emhyr that happens at the end of the final novel before Geralt dies.

[KnightofPhoenix]

So the Ciri thing happened before the game, hmmm.

[Costin_Razvan]

Sadly we can't get rid of the ****ing retarded idealists even there. "Sigh"

[KnightofPhoenix]

lol yea.

[Costin_Razvan]

I wonder how they would feel if they lived in countries like ours...where you don't have any sense of national pride, where your leaders are thieving scumbags who don't care at all for progress.

BTW, as bad as Assad is...living in a democracy where everyone who becomes president will steal, don't know how, but he will for certain, is worse I think.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 16 février 2012 - 02:59 .

[Addai]

I don't know about anyone else, but my national pride- such as it is- isn't based on the narcissistic blowhards who run the government.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

BS. You can't max charm or intimidate unless you have a certain amount of paragon / renegade points respectively.

I had as much charm points as I could have and I still wasn't able to convince Saren to commit suicide. I couldn't max intimidate either, because I was almost entirely in the middle (hence why I also never got any of the "morality" missions).

Exactly. In order to get to the total max on either, plus that little extra something, you have to go one way or another, and have to leave heavy on the side you chose. I maxed both skills as far as the game allowed, but wasn't enough. Plus the morality missions were lost. My skill points were spent well enough. It's because I didn't lean full on one way or another, advancing those social skills to the max. Nothing to do with my point spread, as in any RPG game, I always pay special attention to social/mental skills.

So in the final confrontation with Saren, I was standing there derping my way through. It's one of the things I really liked about the Witcher1. You had that neutral/Witcher path available.

Of course, Bioware isn't the only developer that does this. I've played D&D based CRPGs, and many times, quests or quest rewards/special content is only available if you take to on extreme or another, with more pressure on being "good"if you want anything, xp or such. It's annoying.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Addai67 wrote...

I don't know about anyone else, but my national pride- such as it is- isn't based on the narcissistic blowhards who run the government.

Llol. I personally think anyone who says they are proud to be an American based on the incompetant, paranoid, petty, and corrupt degenerates in Washington needs re-education upside the head with a nailbat. Considering that D.C. was built on a swamp, I keep hoping that whatever higher power exists, will show us mercy, and make the ground open up and swallow the whole stinking cesspit in one gulp. Though the foulness might make the earth sick, and it would vomit the slimeheap back up on us.

There are many things back home that make my heart stir with pride. Our political establishment, and the braindead public that is more up in arms of gay marriage than the endless string of unwinnable wars and the fatally bloated debt plague, are not amongst them. <_<

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...
BTW, as bad as Assad is...living in a democracy where everyone who becomes president will steal, don't know how, but he will for certain, is worse I think.

Because Assad does not steal? The entire system is based on corruption and neo-patrimonialism. 60% of the economy is virtually owned by one man (Makhlouf).

In a real democratic system, at the very least I can speak out and try to hold these individuals accountable. And not have moukhabarat knocking on my door at 3 am.

For instance, in Israel, Presidents and Prime Ministers have been held accountable and have gone through corruption charges. In Syria's Assad, even if you are a son of a nobody who just happens to know someone in government, you would end being virtually unaccountable.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 16 février 2012 - 07:35 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
So in the final confrontation with Saren, I was standing there derping my way through. It's one of the things I really liked about the Witcher1. You had that neutral/Witcher path available.

While I do appreciate the presence of a neutral path, all it was in effect was "everyone's out to kill you, so kill them all." Felt it was meh to be honest. It wasn't so much a path of non-involvement, as it was a path of fighting all of them. 
But I haven't physically played it, just read and watched parts of it.

True neutrality is very hard to accomplish and I can understand that. But punishing those who lean towards neutrality (or pragmatism) because of a flawed bipolar system, should not happen.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 16 février 2012 - 08:14 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Because Assad does not steal? The entire system is based on corruption and neo-patrimonialism. 60% of the economy is virtually owned by one man (Makhlouf).

Ofc he steals, I didn't say otherwise. What I meant is that it feels a hell worse when you live in a so called "democracy" where everyone steals...and you feel just helpless because while you can speak out and vote it doesn't matter squat.

With a dictatorship you at least know how it all stands.

P.S. Knight are you or your brother interested in playing ME3 multiplayer in the demo, and on what platform are you getting the game?

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 17 février 2012 - 03:01 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

The problem is not "democracies", the problem is how it's applied. In Israel, corruption is a lot less than its neighbors, in large part because they have decent accountability. A democratic liberal system is more likely to allow for accountability than a dictatorship.

We are probably going to get it on PC. But my brother is busy with exams these days and doesn't have time to try out the demo. That said, I think he'd like to play multiplayer once the game is out.
I personally am just not interested on the otherhand.