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Morning, folks. Had to share this one as it made me laugh.

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Ugh, I had to talk my other half (who lives 300 miles away, give or take) through part of Fallout 3 the other day. He's a gamer as much as I am but is more into co-op sniping games. Spoke to him later to find out if he'd finished that section and he said yes, then he'd blown up Megaton. *massive facepalm* That's the one thing I can never do in FO3, even on my more evil Lone Wanderer.



Now he's talking about trying DA. If he kills Loghain I might just have to dump him.




Uhm.....seems harsh to me for you wanting to dump him because of his choices in two videos games....then again if he is the kind of guy who just does it for lulz of killing someone then, yeah..



I mean, I also blew up Megaton, but it was to get on Tempeny's good side so I could gain an apartment in his place, and the advantages that gives you. But blowing up for the lulz is just....sick.




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Ah, I am half joking, of course. (I'm sure he'll love Loghain - he's always ranting about the French).

He wanted the nice apartment too.

Personally I prefer the Megaton tin shack - less loading screens to get to it, and it has two floors. (And from an RP perspective, I just can't justify killing all those people).

On the flipside, I don't do the quest to let the ghouls into Tenpenny Tower either. Some of the people there are a*holes but some are nice enough, and they don't deserve to get massacred by ferals.

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I have a question for my fellow Loghain fans:



It concerns my story (Link in my sig)

I know Loghain is not the kind of man who'd venture into smut any time soon after the Landsmeet. The situation I have cooked up isn't luff!smut or fluff, it's basically the traditional "I loathe you so much, damn, you're hot!" (Not that flippant, just putting it mildly) situation. I have a rough draft of the chapter, including a VERY intense debate between Loghain & my Warden, featuring a (I hope) heartbreaking and intense quarrel, ending in an almost bloody make out session. (Dominance, wanting what you think you hate and all that) Would that be feasible in your opinion? There are no feelings involved (yet), it's basically about desire, power and traumas endured by both.



I hope me asking about this is alright. It's about Loggy, after all. :P

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Persephone wrote...

I have a question for my fellow Loghain fans:

It concerns my story (Link in my sig)
I know Loghain is not the kind of man who'd venture into smut any time soon after the Landsmeet. The situation I have cooked up isn't luff!smut or fluff, it's basically the traditional "I loathe you so much, damn, you're hot!" (Not that flippant, just putting it mildly) situation. I have a rough draft of the chapter, including a VERY intense debate between Loghain & my Warden, featuring a (I hope) heartbreaking and intense quarrel, ending in an almost bloody make out session. (Dominance, wanting what you think you hate and all that) Would that be feasible in your opinion? There are no feelings involved (yet), it's basically about desire, power and traumas endured by both.

I hope me asking about this is alright. It's about Loggy, after all. :P


Is it a bad thing that my Warden senses are tingling and making me think Destructo Nookie is somewhere down the line in your fic? ( tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DestructoNookie ) lol Posted Image

The general description seems plausible enough to me. Then again, it's also first thing in the morning here. I'll ponder over it some and see if I can't make a more educated response after work...

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Again, blaming my doube-post on Loghain, since he is the Alpha and the Omega of All Things Bad. Posted Image

Modifié par DragonRacer13, 09 septembre 2010 - 11:32 .


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DragonRacer13 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I have a question for my fellow Loghain fans:

It concerns my story (Link in my sig)
I know Loghain is not the kind of man who'd venture into smut any time soon after the Landsmeet. The situation I have cooked up isn't luff!smut or fluff, it's basically the traditional "I loathe you so much, damn, you're hot!" (Not that flippant, just putting it mildly) situation. I have a rough draft of the chapter, including a VERY intense debate between Loghain & my Warden, featuring a (I hope) heartbreaking and intense quarrel, ending in an almost bloody make out session. (Dominance, wanting what you think you hate and all that) Would that be feasible in your opinion? There are no feelings involved (yet), it's basically about desire, power and traumas endured by both.

I hope me asking about this is alright. It's about Loggy, after all. :P


Is it a bad thing that my Warden senses are tingling and making me think Destructo Nookie is somewhere down the line in your fic? ( tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DestructoNookie ) lol Posted Image

The general description seems plausible enough to me. Then again, it's also first thing in the morning here. I'll ponder over it some and see if I can't make a more educated response after work...


*GGGGGGGGGGG* I like the way you think. Posted Image This is the poem leading into the Chapter:

Thee I invoke, bornless one
all woman, pure predator
wherein conspiracy and impulse dwell
like a seething fall from grace

Thou art in my dreams
the darkness in my eyes
the rapture in their screams
Black Goddess arise
Thou art in my dreams
the darkness in my eyes
the rapture in their screams
Black Goddess arise

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Dragon's nailed it. But go for it, why not.

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He is similar to saren from mass effect, what he wants is perhaps right but the way he is going about it is totally wrong.

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Persephone wrote...

I have a question for my fellow Loghain fans:

It concerns my story (Link in my sig)
I know Loghain is not the kind of man who'd venture into smut any time soon after the Landsmeet. The situation I have cooked up isn't luff!smut or fluff, it's basically the traditional "I loathe you so much, damn, you're hot!" (Not that flippant, just putting it mildly) situation. I have a rough draft of the chapter, including a VERY intense debate between Loghain & my Warden, featuring a (I hope) heartbreaking and intense quarrel, ending in an almost bloody make out session. (Dominance, wanting what you think you hate and all that) Would that be feasible in your opinion? There are no feelings involved (yet), it's basically about desire, power and traumas endured by both.

I hope me asking about this is alright. It's about Loggy, after all. :P

While I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a chapter like that, I often find that they're written just to be written, and usually completely out of character. Loghain doesn't strike me as the "short fuse" kind of guy. Not to say that he doesn't get angry, but he learned how to keep it in check long ago. A general who's quick to anger is a poor leader, after all, and fraternizing between a commander and a soldier is just a bad idea. He'd have to be pretty well provoked to lose it enough for the argument to start in the first place.

Making it believable is all going to be in his characterization. He's passionate so I don't see any reason why he can't find another outlet for it. I think he's either going to have to justify it, or find a reason why it doesn't matter.

Modifié par Monica21, 09 septembre 2010 - 02:16 .


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CalJones wrote...

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Morning, folks. Had to share this one as it made me laugh.
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LMAO! Love it!:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

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Is that Duncan in the pic there?

Made me regret saving the council in ME1.




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Yeah that's Duncan.
I like Turians, on the whole (and Garrus in particular Posted Image) but counsellor Velarn, or whatever his names is, is a prize phallus.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Is that Duncan in the pic there?
Made me regret saving the council in ME1.

See, that turian councilor is one of the reasons I always save them. He's kind of awesome even if he doesn't happen to agree with me.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Is that Duncan in the pic there?
Made me regret saving the council in ME1.

See, that turian councilor is one of the reasons I always save them. He's kind of awesome even if he doesn't happen to agree with me.

I really hope they are going to say the council is just lying to you and is up to something.
If it turns out that they are that dumb I will have to be picking my space bar out of my forehead from headdesking so hard.

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Monica21 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I have a question for my fellow Loghain fans:

It concerns my story (Link in my sig)
I know Loghain is not the kind of man who'd venture into smut any time soon after the Landsmeet. The situation I have cooked up isn't luff!smut or fluff, it's basically the traditional "I loathe you so much, damn, you're hot!" (Not that flippant, just putting it mildly) situation. I have a rough draft of the chapter, including a VERY intense debate between Loghain & my Warden, featuring a (I hope) heartbreaking and intense quarrel, ending in an almost bloody make out session. (Dominance, wanting what you think you hate and all that) Would that be feasible in your opinion? There are no feelings involved (yet), it's basically about desire, power and traumas endured by both.

I hope me asking about this is alright. It's about Loggy, after all. :P

While I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a chapter like that, I often find that they're written just to be written, and usually completely out of character. Loghain doesn't strike me as the "short fuse" kind of guy. Not to say that he doesn't get angry, but he learned how to keep it in check long ago. A general who's quick to anger is a poor leader, after all, and fraternizing between a commander and a soldier is just a bad idea. He'd have to be pretty well provoked to lose it enough for the argument to start in the first place.

Making it believable is all going to be in his characterization. He's passionate so I don't see any reason why he can't find another outlet for it. I think he's either going to have to justify it, or find a reason why it doesn't matter.


Thank you, Monica. That gave me a lot to ponder. :)

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Is that Duncan in the pic there?
Made me regret saving the council in ME1.

See, that turian councilor is one of the reasons I always save them. He's kind of awesome even if he doesn't happen to agree with me.

I really hope they are going to say the council is just lying to you and is up to something.
If it turns out that they are that dumb I will have to be picking my space bar out of my forehead from headdesking so hard.

Could happen. You are Cerberus by the time they talk to you and say they think you're too gullible, after all.

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I think one would only be gullible if he/she actually believed that rejoining the Alliance is even a possibility. In LotSB it is revealed the Alliance wanted to arrest you but did not because of Hackett and Anderson pulling their strings.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

I think one would only be gullible if he/she actually believed that rejoining the Alliance is even a possibility. In LotSB it is revealed the Alliance wanted to arrest you but did not because of Hackett and Anderson pulling their strings.

Thats one "suggestion" a lower ranked person wanted.
They wanted to question you, not imprison you.

Also Hacket is one of the highest ranked Alliance commanders, if he says no, then that pulls sway though the enitre alliance COC.

But to bring this back to Loghain which origin do you think he treats nicest in Ostagar.
He definently is very respectful to my Dwarves who seem him.

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Oh my God, are we talking about Mass Effect in the Dragon Age forums?

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Collider wrote...

Oh my God, are we talking about Mass Effect in the Dragon Age forums?

It seems so, but then again its hard to not compare the two.
Also Cerberus killed a pope so they are all going to hell.
Take the Cerberus folks.

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Collider wrote...

Oh my God, are we talking about Mass Effect in the Dragon Age forums?


Well that is very surprising, no one everf goes off topic ever... wait.... what was the question...?? Posted Image

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Heh, there are some parallels between Saren and Loghain, but Saren is more like Genevieve (The Calling), actually.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...
But to bring this back to Loghain which origin do you think he treats nicest in Ostagar.
He definently is very respectful to my Dwarves who seem him.

I remember him being very nice to my City Elf. I think he said something about me being worthy and not letting anyone else tell me otherwise.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

I think one would only be gullible if he/she actually believed that rejoining the Alliance is even a possibility. In LotSB it is revealed the Alliance wanted to arrest you but did not because of Hackett and Anderson pulling their strings.

I'm not talking about whether you are actually gullible (and Shepard can't be expected to have metagaming information like that anyway). The Council outright says that they think you are because you're believing the BS Saren fed the Geth to get them to follow him, which they may or may not actually believe.

And of course, it got to ME with that Loghain/Turian Councilor picture.

Loghain for on-topic-ness!

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