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[Sylvius the Mad]

I fear that the implementation of the dialogue wheel will eliminate roleplaying the same way it did in Mass Effect.

Now, that said, ME2 does it considerably better than ME does, so as long as BioWare continues to improve that feature things should be manageable (though I still think the voice will inhibit replayability)

[Bryy_Miller]

slimgrin wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Orson Scott Card joining the writing team.

What's wrong with him?

He's Mormon.

A lot of people don't like how vocal he has been about his views on homosexuality. A lot of stuff has crossed the line and is really hard to ignore.

[Daur]

That there will be no Oghren

[Anarya]

ReinaHW wrote...

A friend mentioned it after reading some recent news from the company about their future games, he didn't bother supplying the link, he forgot when I asked.

I trust the source, he knows that I have issues playing games with male only leads and no gender choice. From what he mentioned Activision has decided that none of their games will feature a female lead, likely due to the female gamer demographic being less than that of males and male gamers being uncomfortable with playing as a female character.
And that it could also be that it takes extra time to make a female lead, when with a male lead they can just slap together some already done personality, make him look generic and the usual kind of male character and get the game out a lot quicker to make faster profits.

Sounds like a normal thing from them.

No offense but this is a 100% baseless fear with respect to DA2. I just read that linked article on Activision, and that's a stupid way to run a creative business. It'll probably come back to bite them in the ass someday...we can only hope, anyway.

But the dev team here has said many, many times that there WILL be a female Hawke in DA2. I really don't see where this sort of continued fear comes from unless it's some sort of extreme cynicism-as-defense-mechanism thing. In the end, it's a videogame, guys. Do you really need to guard so aggressively against disappointment that you immediately jump to the worst possible conclusions? Would it not be mentally healthier to keep an open mind until you actually play the game?

[shnizzler93]

Saibh wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

ReinaHW wrote...

A friend mentioned it after reading some recent news from the company about their future games, he didn't bother supplying the link, he forgot when I asked.

I trust the source, he knows that I have issues playing games with male only leads and no gender choice. From what he mentioned Activision has decided that none of their games will feature a female lead, likely due to the female gamer demographic being less than that of males and male gamers being uncomfortable with playing as a female character.
And that it could also be that it takes extra time to make a female lead, when with a male lead they can just slap together some already done personality, make him look generic and the usual kind of male character and get the game out a lot quicker to make faster profits.

Sounds like a normal thing from them.

Guess I'm a male in the minority then, because I prefer playing a female character on the PC. Why? Because it seems that 99.9% of all cool mods made for PC games are made for the females.

Actually, the polls I've seen on these boards of which gender usually favor females, from both sides on these boards.

Also, it's because we girls care about our hair and makeup and clothes and romance.

Not trying to go too far off topic, but I want to add to this.

I am male, and for some reason I don't know why, I actually prefer playing as a female lead. I'm console player, so I don't have access to any mods that you PC players do. I guess in my opinion, there's something inherently awesome about kicking *ss as a woman.

[Dave of Canada]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I fear that the implementation of the dialogue wheel will eliminate roleplaying the same way it did in Mass Effect.
Now, that said, ME2 does it considerably better than ME does, so as long as BioWare continues to improve that feature things should be manageable (though I still think the voice will inhibit replayability)

At least we know about the icon system that's coming tagged along with it and the removal of the "Up is good / middle is meh / down is bad" system.

[Riona45]

jln.francisco wrote...


Internet polls can't be relied upon. Gathering stats is a painstaking process that requires a skilled hand.

That said, I really do prefer female leads over male ones in rpgs. There's a lot more to work with in terms of social issues, outside pressures to conform ect. with female leads then male leads. Like playing a femAeducan in Origins or a femCity Elf. Not to say the male Origins aren't interesting but for me there's a lot more to work with if you were almost the victim of a brutal rape then simply someone who stumbled onto the scene or tried to play the hero.

That probably all came out wrong...

No, I think I get what you're saying.  As another example, the female mage gets an interesting plot point with Cullen that a male mage doesn't.

[Bryy_Miller]

slimgrin wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Solostran85 wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...

Orson Scott Card joining the writing team.

What's wrong with him?

He's Mormon.

A lot of people don't like how vocal he has been about his views on homosexuality. A lot of stuff has crossed the line and is really hard to ignore.

Having escaped from the collective myself, the fact that he's Mormon is enough reason for me. 

I had a Mormon roommate. Absolutely no respect for the other housemates. Not sure if it was a female dominance thing or an age thing. Or a lack of knowledge about the world thing.

[Dave of Canada]

Riona45 wrote...

No, I think I get what you're saying.  As another example, the female mage gets an interesting plot point with Cullen that a male mage doesn't.

I didn't play female but most female origins tend to have the character try to be involved with somebody (or.. to actually be involved).

Human Noble - Darrian (males had that elf maid)
City Elf - (the entire plot involves this for both sides, though the female one's involvement is a lot better)
Dalish - Tamlen
Mage - Cullen / Jowan
Dwarf Commoner - Leske
Dwarf Noble - Gorim

[What?]

Not getting to bed Flemeth. Or at least a hot Qunari or Elf chick.

I jest. Even if that would be awesome.

In seriousness, I'm afraid the roleplay elements might be a bit watered down, and the game have a more combat-centric focus. I enjoyed Origins for its dialogue and companions, not for the combat. Though getting to dismember baddies does have a certain appeal.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 16 août 2010 - 03:52 .

[Thiefy]

blah blah blah MORMON!!! blah blah blah

you know you guys really aren't strengthening your case any by using the same ignorance you accuse other people of having...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

No, I think I get what you're saying.  As another example, the female mage gets an interesting plot point with Cullen that a male mage doesn't.

I didn't play female but most female origins tend to have the character try to be involved with somebody (or.. to actually be involved).

Human Noble - Darrian (males had that elf maid)
City Elf - (the entire plot involves this for both sides, though the female one's involvement is a lot better)
Dalish - Tamlen
Mage - Cullen / Jowan
Dwarf Commoner - Leske
Dwarf Noble - Gorim

for the human noble, you just get to sleep with Darrian. And the female elf. Both of them swing both ways. though as female you get to invite Duncan to your room.

Anyway the same can be said for the guys, they've got other flirt/zex options though i dont think they are exclusive to the origins. that and they get a party banter with the two females fighting over them. zevran and alistair have too much pride for that, or something...

Modifié par Thief-of-Hearts, 16 août 2010 - 03:53 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

you know you guys really aren't strengthening your case any by using the same ignorance you accuse other people of having...

So, in your opinion, giving two examples of why Mormons are not the greatest is ignorance? I understand that mine isn't that great, but you're going to tell Slim she is ignorant?

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 16 août 2010 - 03:50 .

[Riona45]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I didn't play female but most female origins tend to have the character try to be involved with somebody (or.. to actually be involved).

Yeah, I noticed that myself...

[Dave of Canada]

VictorianTrash wrote...

Not getting to bed Flemeth. Or at least a hot Qunari or Elf chick.

I really want a female that's not human for a love interest. I tried to roleplay my Dalish as being pro-Dalish and against humans but essentially that left him without any romance option, it made me sad.

[Bryy_Miller]

Riona45 wrote...

jln.francisco wrote...


Internet polls can't be relied upon. Gathering stats is a painstaking process that requires a skilled hand.

That said, I really do prefer female leads over male ones in rpgs. There's a lot more to work with in terms of social issues, outside pressures to conform ect. with female leads then male leads. Like playing a femAeducan in Origins or a femCity Elf. Not to say the male Origins aren't interesting but for me there's a lot more to work with if you were almost the victim of a brutal rape then simply someone who stumbled onto the scene or tried to play the hero.

That probably all came out wrong...

No, I think I get what you're saying.  As another example, the female mage gets an interesting plot point with Cullen that a male mage doesn't.

If I may, and nobody take this the wrong way, the subtle sexism in the entire game if you are female is epic.

I loved being discriminated against.

[SgtElias]

slimgrin wrote...

Actually, now that someone brings romance up, I don't want sex scenes while my character wears diapers - fade to black or nekid boobs.

Oh thank the Gods. Agreed.

[What?]

Dave of Canada wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

Not getting to bed Flemeth. Or at least a hot Qunari or Elf chick.

I really want a female that's not human for a love interest. I tried to roleplay my Dalish as being pro-Dalish and against humans but essentially that left him without any romance option, it made me sad.

Yes! I lean more toward the non-human romances. I was disappointed that the only non-human you could romance in DA:O was Zevran, as he hardly had any depth or intrigue to him. I really, really wanted to like him as an LI... but I couldn't. He was funny for banter, as he had some of the most amusing lines in the game aside from Oghren; but that's about it.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 16 août 2010 - 03:59 .

[Dave of Canada]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

for the human noble, you just get to sleep with Darrian. And the female elf. Both of them swing both ways. though as female you get to invite Duncan to your room.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the swing both ways thing.

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Duncan?!

Anyway the same can be said for the guys, they've got other flirt/zex options though i dont think they are exclusive to the origins. that and they get a party banter with the two females fighting over them. zevran and alistair have too much pride for that, or something...

They have their own banter.

• Alistair: Do you mind if I ask you a personal question?
• Zevran: You may ask, but I may choose not to answer.
• Alistair: Fair enough. Have you... had very many women in your time? I mean... you seem like the sort of man who would...
• Zevran: I have indulged from time to time, perhaps, when my interest is not elsewhere.
• Alistair: Right. Well, how do you... woo them? Is there a... technique? Or...
• Zevran: "Woo them?" Are you quite serious?
• Alistair: Er... yes? I don't know what else to call it.
• Zevran: So let me get this straight. You have... never wooed? Not once? You are woo-less, as it were?
• Alistair: All right. Bad idea. Never mind.

--

• Zevran: Might I offer you a bit of advice, my good friend Alistair?
• Alistair: I like my hair the way it is, thank you.
• Zevran: Truly? As you wish... though my advice is
  regarding something else completely. It has to do with your recent...
  exertions with your fellow Grey Warden that I overheard.
• Alistair: My...? Oh.
• Zevran: It did seem as if you just got going when all grew quiet. You are... feeling all right, yes? Perhaps you are tired?
• Alistair: We aren't talking about this, are we? Did I hit my head?
• Zevran: I have some roots from home that you may chew if you need energy. As for volume, perhaps you ought to try arching your--
• Alistair: Whoa! Whoa! Awkward!
• Zevran: You Fereldans are so finicky. How will you ever learn how to pleasure each other unless you talk about it?
• Alistair: Not listening! La la la la la!

--

• Alistair: So let me ask you something. What are your intentions with her?
• Zevran: You speak of her as if she is not present. She is just right over there, you know...
• Alistair: Don't dodge the question. I'm serious.
• Zevran: Is this brotherly concern I detect? Or something else? Perhaps you are concerned for me, yes?
• Alistair: I am just asking what your intentions are. You did try to kill us all, remember?
• Zevran: And now I owe her a blood debt, as she has spared my life. It has brought us... closer together.
• Alistair: Is that a smirk? Are you smirking at me?
• Zevran: I assure you, ser, that I am not smirking. No smirking here, no.
• Alistair: Well, just... watch yourself, then. I'll be keeping an eye on you.

(same dialogue if you're romancing Alistair)

• Alistair: So let me ask you something. What are your intentions with her?
• Zevran: You speak of her as if she is not present. She is just right over there, you know...
• Alistair: Don't dodge the question. I'm serious.
• Zevran: Mmm. Do I detect a bit of jealousy there? Feeling territorial, are we?
• Alistair: I am just asking what your intentions are. You did try to kill us all, remember?
• Zevran: And now I owe her a blood debt, as she has spared my life. It has brought us... closer together.
• Alistair: Is that a smirk? Are you smirking at me?
• Zevran: I assure you, ser, that I am not smirking. No smirking here, no.
• Alistair: Well, just... watch yourself, then. I'll be keeping an eye on you.

[Thiefy]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

you know you guys really aren't strengthening your case any by using the same ignorance you accuse other people of having...

So, in your opinion, giving two examples of why Mormons are not the greatest is ignorance? I understand that mine isn't that great, but you're going to tell Slim she is ignorant?

Er, why would I need to give two examples, exactly?

Also, I never said anyone was ignorant, I only implied they were being hypocritical. But, to rebuke that thought, yes, it is ignorant of her to think that, even if she is or was mormon, because not all mormons are necessarily like those that surrounded her before that caused her to lose her faith.

I don't know who that guy is, or what he has done to get people so riled up, and I'm sure he is capable of defending himself in an arguement, but I think it's silly to think that all mormons are just like him and ought to be grouped together under one big generalization.