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[Schneidend]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

No but instead you want to play the same game that is exactly like Mass Effect with a different name?

Why not? You want to play the same game that is exactly like Baldur's Gate with a different name.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I want to play Shattered Steel with the same name, but Bioware refuses me that

[Saibh]

Schneidend wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

No but instead you want to play the same game that is exactly like Mass Effect with a different name?

Why not? You want to play the same game that is exactly like Baldur's Gate with a different name.

Sir, I liked that one.

Modifié par Saibh, 17 août 2010 - 01:15 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Well... Look at the bright side: If BW is abandoning the RPG and turns ME into a full blown shooter and DA into a point and click adventure then maybe we'll finally get proper graphics.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 17 août 2010 - 01:15 .

[Aesthioseae]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Aesthioseae wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

Mary: Wandering the hallways of the BioWare office with a cart. Bring out yer dead!

David: Hauling Luke over his shoulder I've got one for you.

Luke: I'm not dead!

Mary: Suspicious. He says he's not dead yet.

David: Well, he will be soon enough.

Luke: I'm getting better!

Mary: I can't take him on the cart if he ain't dead.

Luke: I feel fine.

David: Clubs Luke over the head. There you go.

Mary: I'll be back round next Thursday. Bring out yer dead!


Yeah, yeah. I know I'm not the only one who was thinking it.

Moral of the day: always look on the bright side of life!

No, no, no... that was Life of Brian.

<_<

[Dave of Canada]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I want to play Shattered Steel with the same name, but Bioware refuses me that

omg Bioware is making DA2 to be exactly like MDK2.

[Onyx Jaguar]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Onyx Jaguar]

Someone needs to bring Shiny back from the dead, they made some cool games in the late 90s



that weren't titled Earthworm Jim



Also DMA design should go back and make some lemmings games



Filled with social commentary



what

[Bobad]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Aesthioseae wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Aesthioseae wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

Mary: Wandering the hallways of the BioWare office with a cart. Bring out yer dead!

David: Hauling Luke over his shoulder I've got one for you.

Luke: I'm not dead!

Mary: Suspicious. He says he's not dead yet.

David: Well, he will be soon enough.

Luke: I'm getting better!

Mary: I can't take him on the cart if he ain't dead.

Luke: I feel fine.

David: Clubs Luke over the head. There you go.

Mary: I'll be back round next Thursday. Bring out yer dead!


Yeah, yeah. I know I'm not the only one who was thinking it.

Moral of the day: always look on the bright side of life!

No, no, no... that was Life of Brian.

<_<

[Coyote Hunter]

Oh God, you crotchety old geezers will be dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming whether you like it or not.

[Dave of Canada]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Coyote Hunter wrote...

Oh God, you crotchety old geezers will be dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming whether you like it or not.

Go back to the future ya penlubber.

If RPGs don't evolve, all of mankind will persih in nuclear war in the future.

[Onyx Jaguar]

RPGs, RPGs never change

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

AmstradHero wrote...

@Cos Sarah Jinstar

I don't believe David said that DAO was catering to a niche. Nor did he appear to say the BG1, BG2 and NWN were catering to a niche at the time of their release. (However, I wouldn't presume to put words into his mouth)

Consider this hypothetical: If any of those older games (BG1, BG2 or NWN) were released for the first time today exactly as they were upon their initial release date, can you imagine the sort of reception they would get? If you argue that they would be well received and sell as well as DAO if it were released for the first time today, then I'd have to say that you're completely out of touch with the modern gaming market.

No you're just reinforcing the point that everything needs to be "streamlined" and stripped down to sell well these days to appeal to the ADD crowd that esentially makes up the market. I hardly find RPG's to be a niche market myself in the first place to be honest with you. There is still a sizable market for titles like BG and NWN, the 30+ crowd that grew up on them would gladly still buy them I've no doubt.

It just seems strange to me to see people ask for less customization options as though it somehow makes the games better. As I always felt one of the main points of playing an RPG in the first place were those same options. I guess I'm just an irrelevant old schooler who isn't impressed by "the new ****"

[Saibh]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

AmstradHero wrote...

@Cos Sarah Jinstar

I don't believe David said that DAO was catering to a niche. Nor did he appear to say the BG1, BG2 and NWN were catering to a niche at the time of their release. (However, I wouldn't presume to put words into his mouth)

Consider this hypothetical: If any of those older games (BG1, BG2 or NWN) were released for the first time today exactly as they were upon their initial release date, can you imagine the sort of reception they would get? If you argue that they would be well received and sell as well as DAO if it were released for the first time today, then I'd have to say that you're completely out of touch with the modern gaming market.

No you're just reinforcing the point that everything needs to be "streamlined" and stripped down to sell well these days to appeal to the ADD crowd that esentially makes up the market. I hardly find RPG's to be a niche market myself in the first place to be honest with you. There is still a sizable market for titles like BG and NWN, the 30+ crowd that grew up on them would gladly still buy them I've no doubt.

It just seems strange to me to see people ask for less customization options as though it somehow makes the games better. As I always felt one of the main points of playing an RPG in the first place were those same options. I guess I'm just an irrelevant old schooler who isn't impressed by "the new ****"

As Sable pointed out in her thread, most RPGs don't give you Origins, and are plenty good. The six we had spoiled us. I would prefer less Origins and have a greater impact on the storyline, then more Origins and have a fairly linear plot.

[Dave of Canada]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

RPGs, RPGs never change

Since the dawn of nerd kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of the +1 shortsword, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from loot to gold to beautiful, sexy females.

In the year 2077, after millennia of forum debates, the spiteful nature of nerds could sustain itself no longer. The internet was plunged into an abyss of troll flames and insults. But it was not, as predicted, the end of the RPG. Instead,  the Y2K was simply the prologue to another stupid forum thread on the Bioware forums. For nerds had succeeded in destroying the internet - but RPGs, RPGs never changes.

In the early days, thousands were spared the horror of the moderation by taking refuge in enormous forum sections, know as off-topic. But when they emerged, they had only the hell of banned to greet them - all except those in the Warhammer section. For on the fateful day, when banhammers rained from the sky, the Mythic office door slide closed.. and never reopened. It was here you were joined the forum. It is here you will get banned because, in the Warhammer forum, no one ever enters and no one ever leaves.

[Torhagen]

dislye wrote...

what makes Bioware games so special (story, characters, quality and so on)

That is point the so many people on the board argue about if they have streamlined away the "the special"

[Bobad]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

[Abomination goes here]

What do ya say bout dis?

That, thing, just scared the **** out of me, I have to sleep soon too

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Saibh wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

AmstradHero wrote...

@Cos Sarah Jinstar

I don't believe David said that DAO was catering to a niche. Nor did he appear to say the BG1, BG2 and NWN were catering to a niche at the time of their release. (However, I wouldn't presume to put words into his mouth)

Consider this hypothetical: If any of those older games (BG1, BG2 or NWN) were released for the first time today exactly as they were upon their initial release date, can you imagine the sort of reception they would get? If you argue that they would be well received and sell as well as DAO if it were released for the first time today, then I'd have to say that you're completely out of touch with the modern gaming market.

No you're just reinforcing the point that everything needs to be "streamlined" and stripped down to sell well these days to appeal to the ADD crowd that esentially makes up the market. I hardly find RPG's to be a niche market myself in the first place to be honest with you. There is still a sizable market for titles like BG and NWN, the 30+ crowd that grew up on them would gladly still buy them I've no doubt.

It just seems strange to me to see people ask for less customization options as though it somehow makes the games better. As I always felt one of the main points of playing an RPG in the first place were those same options. I guess I'm just an irrelevant old schooler who isn't impressed by "the new ****"

As Sable pointed out in her thread, most RPGs don't give you Origins, and are plenty good. The six we had spoiled us. I would prefer less Origins and have a greater impact on the storyline, then more Origins and have a fairly linear plot.

Its not even completely about having Origins really. Bioware games have always been fairly linear in plot regardless. What customization offers is the ability to replay through using different options, be it skills, gear, conversation and party choices and have the game still be a somewhat unique experience. Streamlining that down to one choice and stripping alot of the conversation out because nowadays you need VO for some reason doesn't offer as much along the lines of replayability imo.

Along the line they're going now I would not be at all surprised if DA3 has one PC and one class so that they can impact the story line or what not. Its a lame reason given to remove stuff that alot of people enjoyed out of past Bioware titles.

Modifié par CoS Sarah Jinstar, 17 août 2010 - 02:20 .

[Schneidend]

Schneidend wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

No but instead you want to play the same game that is exactly like Mass Effect with a different name?

Why not? You want to play the same game that is exactly like Baldur's Gate with a different name.

Not that I blame Gandalf for this, mind, as Baldur's Gate is awesome (especially with the BGTutu mod), but it does represent a gaping hole in the logic, here.

Can Baldur's Gate/DA:O and Mass Effect 1/2 not both be awesome?

And, yeah, that's RIGHT, I quoted myself! Deal!

Modifié par Schneidend, 17 août 2010 - 02:27 .

[NKKKK]

Mary Kirby wrote...

Mary: Wandering the hallways of the BioWare office with a cart. Bring out yer dead!

David: Hauling Luke over his shoulder I've got one for you.

Luke: I'm not dead!

Mary: Suspicious. He says he's not dead yet.

David: Well, he will be soon enough.

Luke: I'm getting better!

Mary: I can't take him on the cart if he ain't dead.

Luke: I feel fine.

David: Clubs Luke over the head. There you go.

Mary: I'll be back round next Thursday. Bring out yer dead!


Yeah, yeah. I know I'm not the only one who was thinking it.

Lol Monty Python. Anyways Bioware will soon be called EA studios Edmonton and EA studios Austin.