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Calla S

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Wishpig wrote...
Well the mere mention of him being less then attractive seemed to get your panties in a twist. Doesn't do much for your "looks don't matter" stand.

Nothing's got my "panties in a twist," sweetheart. I'm just giving you another angle in an attempt to give you a more realistic view of things, is all. That said, I wouldn't be defending the "looks don't matter" stand if I didn't believe in it.

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Of course every companion is going to have some female fans. You know very well thats not what I mean... or you should. I'm talking about FANGIRLS, the kind that like alistair because of his looks, voice, ect. The kind of fangirls who wouldn't like him if he looked like Oghren. And you know they exist in large numbers.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that we can hardly judge his final appearance from a single screenshot where he's making a face. It'd be safe to say that when his voice and personality are added to him and we're able to see that, as well, things will look much more attractive on a base level.

Wishpig wrote...
PS- Don't get offended by me focusing on girls, guys are even worse than girls when it comes to judgeing based off looks.

Trust me. I know. This thread - along with the one about the pirate lady - made that abundantly clear.

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I'm digging the sleazy troll look. Reminds me of Danny Devito in Always Sunny... thats a good thing ;)

Calla S wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
Well the mere
mention of him being less then attractive seemed to get your panties in a
twist. Doesn't do much for your "looks don't matter" stand.

Nothing's
got my "panties in a twist," sweetheart. I'm just giving you another
angle in an attempt to give you a more realistic view of things, is all.
That said, I wouldn't be defending the "looks don't matter" stand if I
didn't believe in it.

Wishpig wrote...
Of course every
companion is going to have some female fans. You know very well thats
not what I mean... or you should. I'm talking about FANGIRLS, the kind
that like alistair because of his looks, voice, ect. The kind of
fangirls who wouldn't like him if he looked like Oghren. And you know
they exist in large numbers.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change
the fact that we can hardly judge his final appearance from a single
screenshot where he's making a face. It'd be safe to say that when his
voice and personality are added to him and we're able to see that, as
well, things will look much more attractive on a base level.

Wishpig wrote...
PS-
Don't get offended by me focusing on girls, guys are even worse than
girls when it comes to judgeing based off looks.

Trust me. I know. This thread - along with the one about the pirate lady - made that abundantly clear.


I came on this thread wondering how fangirls were reacting to this picture... and based off your answer... it seems excatly like I was expecting.

So thanks.

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:25 .


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Wishpig wrote...
Being I don't want to read over 125 pages of chest hair jokes, I'll ask...

What was the general reaction to Varic's actual in-game appearance. I'm curious how fangirls are going to react to his less then sexy true appearance. I however, dig the look. Looks like more of a scoundral than a 80's porn star.

I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will be unable to get past Varric's initial appearance when they start to form their final opinions about his character and whether or not he's worth all the hype. That's just how the world is. For every person out there that's willing to look past what's on the outside, there's just as many who will be too repulsed to go much further.
Frankly I'll love the magnificent bastard no matter what he looks like. What we've learned about his personality has already won me over, and I can easily see him becoming a good friend (and possibly more) to my Hawke during their journey.

Modifié par Nyaore, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:24 .


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Doth I offended the lady? :blush:

I don't see why a woman expressing her opinion without the use of smilies, exclamation points, or "lol"s translates directly into "holy crap, she must be offended!" but oookay.

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Calla S wrote...

Jarek_Cousland wrote...
Doth I offended the lady? :blush:

I don't see why a woman expressing her opinion without the use of smilies, exclamation points, or "lol"s translates directly into "holy crap, she must be offended!" but oookay.



No, but attacking me for asking a question does?

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Jarek_Cousland wrote...
No, but attacking me for asking a question does?

I didn't realize giving you advice could be mistaken for "attacking" you.

Comparing anyone to the talimancers is a bad idea. I'm not bothered, really, since I could give a toss about who I'm compared to. Just not a good plan.

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Wishpig wrote...
I came on this thread wondering how fangirls were reacting to this picture... and based off your answer... it seems excatly like I was expecting.

So thanks.

You're welcome.

You can leave now.

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Wishpig wrote...

I'm digging the sleazy troll look. Reminds me of Danny Devito in Always Sunny... thats a good thing ;)


Alright, now THAT'S a compliment! Now you're getting my hopes up that he's going to randomly whip out a dagger or something whenever he hears a loud noise or if there's a part where he ends up water boarding Cassandra lmao

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Calla S wrote...

Jarek_Cousland wrote...
Doth I offended the lady? :blush:

I don't see why a woman expressing her opinion without the use of smilies, exclamation points, or "lol"s translates directly into "holy crap, she must be offended!" but oookay.


Well you went on the offensive as soon as I mentioned that a male character (handsome in concept art) might not be attractive in game, claiming "it's a bad shot" "thats not his good side" "he's making a face!" You seemed to actually take offense.

But then went into how it doesn't matter what a character looks like as long as they have a good personality.

How do you think thats going to end?

Calla S wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
I came on this
thread wondering how fangirls were reacting to this picture... and
based off your answer... it seems excatly like I was expecting.

So thanks.

You're welcome.

You can leave now.


Lol nice...

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:29 .


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Calla S wrote...

Jarek_Cousland wrote...
No, but attacking me for asking a question does?

I didn't realize giving you advice could be mistaken for "attacking" you.

Comparing anyone to the talimancers is a bad idea. I'm not bothered, really, since I could give a toss about who I'm compared to. Just not a good plan.



Ok then, Thane-mancers? Alistair? Garrus?

Who's the poilitcally correct one to make a comparison to until we see it for ourselves? I'm not trying to start a fight, I just want to know so I dont turn into the Varric fan-girls whipping boy again.


Your whips have a pretty bad sting to them, I still havent recovered. :pinched:

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Nyaore wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
Being I don't want to read over 125 pages of chest hair jokes, I'll ask...

What was the general reaction to Varic's actual in-game appearance. I'm curious how fangirls are going to react to his less then sexy true appearance. I however, dig the look. Looks like more of a scoundral than a 80's porn star.

I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will be unable to get past Varric's initial appearance when they start to form their final opinions about his character and whether or not he's worth all the hype. That's just how the world is. For every person out there that's willing to look past what's on the outside, there's just as many who will be too repulsed to go much further.
Frankly I'll love the magnificent bastard no matter what he looks like. What we've learned about his personality has already won me over, and I can easily see him becoming a good friend (and possibly more) to my Hawke during their journey.


Nice, now see this, this is a great response. I totally agree! They can make him look like fat bast*** for all I care... the minute I learned how he starts off Hawke's tale I was a fan. Argh, I can't wait to see him weave his tales. I hope he fills Alistair's shoes as the good buddy/comic relief. Although for some reason he's reminding me of Yoshimo from BG2 more then anything at this point. Which is great cause he was one of my fav companions.

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:36 .


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Wishpig wrote...
Well you went on the offensive as soon as I mentioned that a male character (handsome in concept art) might not be attractive in game, claiming "it's a bad shot" "thats not his good side" "he's making a face!" You seemed to actually take offense.

But then went into how it doesn't matter what a character looks like as long as they have a good personality.

How do you think thats going to end?

Alright, buddy, let's see.

You stroll into a Varric fanthread. You post a screenshot from weeks ago (that we've obviously seen) and try to start a discussion (that we've obviously discussed). Many of us - me included - don't mind that screenshot at all. We know they caught him either mid-sentence or mid-expression. We've also watched the UStream and seen him, however blurry, in action. 

Either the fact that I was explaining the screenshot to you in an attempt to make you realize oh hey he's really not that hideous because I don't believe that he is surprised you or that you were so shocked by the fact that personality and voice actually matters to some of us that you ceased making any sense. 

But, really, in the end, that doesn't matter, as you're going to contort what I say around anyway to make it look like I'm running circles on myself. Which I'm not. ;)

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Varric Thread!

The one and only Imperial Cheesecake has returned!!!

#3139
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Calla S wrote...
But, really, in the end, that doesn't matter, as you're going to contort what I say around anyway to make it look like I'm running circles on myself. Which I'm not. ;)


Ya... I don't need to contort anything. I'm just calling it like I see it ;) You gettin dizzy? :o :P emoticons make everything ok.

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:41 .


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Come on, folks. Varric wouldn't want us to be arguing. He'd want us to be happy, drunk, and working on our chest hair. So here's to that!

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Come on, folks. Varric wouldn't want us to be arguing. He'd want us to be happy, drunk, and working on our chest hair. So here's to that!


I dunno... he strikes me as the kind of guy who would enjoy instigating arguments as long as he could sit back, watch, and laugh at our foolishness!

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:39 .


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You know what? Nevermind. Sable Rhapsody has a point. 

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I'll just be over here, setting land mines for any more trolls who decide to traipse past.

Modifié par Calla S, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:50 .


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Wishpig wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
Being I don't want to read over 125 pages of chest hair jokes, I'll ask...

What was the general reaction to Varic's actual in-game appearance. I'm curious how fangirls are going to react to his less then sexy true appearance. I however, dig the look. Looks like more of a scoundral than a 80's porn star.

I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will be unable to get past Varric's initial appearance when they start to form their final opinions about his character and whether or not he's worth all the hype. That's just how the world is. For every person out there that's willing to look past what's on the outside, there's just as many who will be too repulsed to go much further.
Frankly I'll love the magnificent bastard no matter what he looks like. What we've learned about his personality has already won me over, and I can easily see him becoming a good friend (and possibly more) to my Hawke during their journey.


Nice, now see this, this is a great response. I totally agree! They can make him look like fat bast*** for all I care... the minute I learned how he starts off Hawke's tale I was a fan. Argh, I can't wait to see him weave his tales. I hope he fills Alistair's shoes as the good buddy/comic relief. Although for some reason he's reminding me of Yoshimo from BG2 more then anything at this point. Which is great cause he was one of my fav companions.

Agreed 100%. Regardless of how he looks, Varric is still Varric.
Am I the only one who imagines him as being somewhat of a demonstrative story teller? You know, the kind that uses big gestures to help emphasize certain aspects of a story? Regardless, he has to be good if he's able to get people to buy him drinks just to spin a yarn or two. (Or for Cassandra to have singled him out... Though we all know she's regretting that choice by now... Poor woman looks like she's in desperate need of an aspirin whenever I see official pictures of her. )
:wizard:

Modifié par Nyaore, 14 septembre 2010 - 01:44 .


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@Varric's look: He looked a lot better in motion, the mannerisms made the character (also the hair / face looked better from a different angle). I personally loved when he put his fingertips together, it was like "zomg awesome".

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Modifié par Dave of Canada, 14 septembre 2010 - 02:01 .


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yea I think Wishpig just came here to start trouble..

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@Varric's look: He looked a lot better in motion, the mannerisms made the character (also the hair / face looked better from a different angle). I personally loved when he put his fingertips together, it was like "zomg awesome".

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Hahaha, that was my favorite part. That and when he leaned back in his chair and just smirked at her. Oh, it was glorious.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

@Varric's look: He looked a lot better in motion, the mannerisms made the character (also the hair / face looked better from a different angle). I personally loved when he put his fingertips together, it was like "zomg awesome".


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Paint mad skillz, part deux.

Modifié par Dhiro, 14 septembre 2010 - 02:13 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

@Varric's look: He looked a lot better in motion, the mannerisms made the character (also the hair / face looked better from a different angle). I personally loved when he put his fingertips together, it was like "zomg awesome".

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Thats cool... seems like their new cinematic approach may well pay off! I like the idea the hands can be so manipulated in cut scenes to pull something like that off. Small stuff like that can really define a character.

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Ahhh, now  I see...  Caught a certain "new to this  thread" poster's entry over on the "What do we Know so far?" thread, and discover, it seems to me, that person came over here in an attempt to stir-up comments of unhappiness with BioWare's Varric design choices, which would support the POV previously expressed there.

(Maybe because the poster  is the one unhappy with the way Varric, who 'til now was an acceptably attractive drinking buddy and/or wanna-be LI, appeared in the screenshots?   Just askin'... Posted Image )

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Thandal NLyman wrote...

Ahhh, now  I see...  Caught a certain "new to this thread" poster's entry on the "What do we Know so far?" thread, and discover, it seems to me, that person came over here in an attempt to stir-up comments of unhappiness with BioWare's Varric design choices, which would support the POV previously expressed there.

(Maybe because the poster  is the one unhappy with the way Varric, who 'til now was an acceptably attractive drinking buddy and/or wanna-be LI, appeared in the screenshots?   Just askin'... Posted Image )


Lol, I should have seen this response coming. I guess it's unacceptible to bring up the same point in two threads, eh? Nobody does that right? Right?

Actually, I found the picture online, it was linked to the What we Know so far thread, responded to it there, and realised afterwords, the Varric thread is prob the best place to see what the reactions towards it was.

Makes a little too much sense right? Creepy!

Your theory about me being unhappy with the way Varric looks is kinda offset by the fact I don't care what he looks like and the fact I really dug how he looked in the pic.

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 septembre 2010 - 02:27 .