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[Xewaka]

namedforthemoon wrote...

We are Varric Fans, and we are above all of that nonsense. So let us forget the little blog that makes no difference in our world of Varric, and continue posting the Varric goodness. I noticed no one said anything about the dream I had.

It sounded as if Varric was bringing her fianceé to momma for her approval.

Modifié par Xewaka, 19 décembre 2010 - 08:31 .

[Risax]

Mike Laidlaw came to my thread yesterday explaing that the red symbol was used in a rebellion caused by slaves back when Kirkwall was owned by Tevinter, and recently it has been coming back.

So do you think Varric is part of this rebellion? To me it looks more like someone broke into is home and painted that symbol there, that or they are at the base of the rebels.

Modifié par Risax, 19 décembre 2010 - 08:44 .

[namedforthemoon]

Maybe his home is the base of rebels! Oooh.



And this is the picture I was hoping someone could turn into a snazzy wallpaper because I lack the skills to not pixellate everything.

[mellifera]

If someone broke in and painted it, they must have had a lot of time to do so in order to take the weapons down, paint the symbol, and then place the weapons back properly. It looks too clean, I think it was on purpose.

[Risax]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Maybe his home is the base of rebels! Oooh.

And this is the picture I was hoping someone could turn into a snazzy wallpaper because I lack the skills to not pixellate everything.

Why would Varric start a rebellion?
He does know everything there is to know in Kirkwall....So there must be...Something.
Or maybe he just started painting those symbols to instill fear in the hearts of the people of Kirkwall, so they buy stuff from his brother to protect themselves.

But Varric would not be so nefarious, would he?

[namedforthemoon]

I don't think he starts the rebellion, I think he's one of those people who are secretly involved in the rebellion. "Tavern storyteller by day, Secret Rebellion General by night". Besides, he runs a spy network, so he has the skills and knows the people for certain things or services, right?

[Wishpig]

What if Varric (or just his family) use slaves in their businesses...

or even worse...

What if they partake in the slave trade.

namedforthemoon wrote...

I don't think he starts the
rebellion, I think he's one of those people who are secretly involved in
the rebellion. "Tavern storyteller by day, Secret Rebellion General by
night". Besides, he runs a spy network, so he has the skills and knows
the people for certain things or services, right?

I doubt Varric is part of some Secret Rebellion. Every DA:O character had a darker side about them, some more then others. I don't see them turning Varric into some Robin Hood goody toe shoes FIGHT FOR FREEDOM type of characters. Although no doubt some fangirls do.

Modifié par Wishpig, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:01 .

[namedforthemoon]

Wishpig wrote...

What if Varric (or just his family) use slaves in their businesses...

or even worse...

What if they partake in the slave trade.

Wow, that would ****** me off. It really would. And somehow I think that you HAVE to have Varric in your party (like Alistair until he chooses to leave at the very end if you save Loghain) because he has to be able to know who you are so he can tell your story. Hmm.

I guess it would be great to show off how the rivalry system works. Or you could just be an evil bastard and agree with him.

[namedforthemoon]

Wishpig wrote...

What if Varric (or just his family) use slaves in their businesses...

or even worse...

What if they partake in the slave trade.

namedforthemoon wrote...

I don't think he starts the
rebellion, I think he's one of those people who are secretly involved in
the rebellion. "Tavern storyteller by day, Secret Rebellion General by
night". Besides, he runs a spy network, so he has the skills and knows
the people for certain things or services, right?

I doubt Varric is part of some Secret Rebellion. Every DA:O character had a darker side about them, some more then others. I don't see them turning Varric into some Robin Hood goody toe shoes.

I don't really see that either, to be honest. He's too much of a hedonist in his own right. But maybe the symbol has changed parties. It used to represent the slave rebellion. Maybe now it stands for a Circle of Mages rebellion. I'm guessing this because of that one scene where all the mages appear to be fighting the templars in the Rise to Destiny trailer. I could see Varric getting involved with that, because if his brother is smuggling/trading lyrium, it would help his family's cause.

[Wishpig]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

What if Varric (or just his family) use slaves in their businesses...

or even worse...

What if they partake in the slave trade.

Wow, that would ****** me off. It really would. And somehow I think that you HAVE to have Varric in your party (like Alistair until he chooses to leave at the very end if you save Loghain) because he has to be able to know who you are so he can tell your story. Hmm.

I guess it would be great to show off how the rivalry system works. Or you could just be an evil bastard and agree with him.

If I had to guess right now, I'd have to guess, unbeknownst the Varric, his brother sells slaves. The bio says he's a scumbag after all.

It would make for a great companion sub-story!

[nightcobra]

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

What if Varric (or just his family) use slaves in their businesses...

or even worse...

What if they partake in the slave trade.

Wow, that would ****** me off. It really would. And somehow I think that you HAVE to have Varric in your party (like Alistair until he chooses to leave at the very end if you save Loghain) because he has to be able to know who you are so he can tell your story. Hmm.

I guess it would be great to show off how the rivalry system works. Or you could just be an evil bastard and agree with him.

If I had to guess right now, I'd have to guess, unbeknownst the Varric, his brother sells slaves. The bio says he's a scumbag after all.

It would make for a great companion sub-story!

a scoundrel and a scumbag can be two very different things.

i'd say bartrand could be a deceitful merchant by pulling the strings so his family comes out on top during negotiations.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:10 .

[namedforthemoon]

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

What if Varric (or just his family) use slaves in their businesses...

or even worse...

What if they partake in the slave trade.

Wow, that would ****** me off. It really would. And somehow I think that you HAVE to have Varric in your party (like Alistair until he chooses to leave at the very end if you save Loghain) because he has to be able to know who you are so he can tell your story. Hmm.

I guess it would be great to show off how the rivalry system works. Or you could just be an evil bastard and agree with him.

If I had to guess right now, I'd have to guess, unbeknownst the Varric, his brother sells slaves. The bio says he's a scumbag after all.

It would make for a great companion sub-story!

If it's unbeknownst to Varric, then that's a different reaction. Then the question would be, what is Varric's feelings on this, and what does he plan to do about it? If he agrees with it, then he's an evil bastard (especially if Fenris, former elf slave) is in the party. If he tries to stop his brother... Well, would he try to stop his brother? I don't know.

Modifié par namedforthemoon, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:09 .

[Wishpig]

namedforthemoon wrote...

I don't really see that either, to be honest. He's too much of a hedonist in his own right. But maybe the symbol has changed parties. It used to represent the slave rebellion. Maybe now it stands for a Circle of Mages rebellion. I'm guessing this because of that one scene where all the mages appear to be fighting the templars in the Rise to Destiny trailer. I could see Varric getting involved with that, because if his brother is smuggling/trading lyrium, it would help his family's cause.

Lol, you can be a hedonist and sell slaves, make no mistake about it. If he deems the money and luxary and success of his family's buisness is worth the suffering... well he's still a hedonist. There are many ways he could convince himself it's allright... that it balances out.

Bottom line, the area Varric in is torn up. The symbol looks hastley painted, some drapings on the wall look ruffled and f*ed with... it's a message... not some rebel base. Thats like jews hiding from the ****'s, but putting a big WE'RE HERE SIGN inside their house... well... it's as stupid as that would be.

Personally I hope Varric isn't part of a slaving trade ring, but nor do I hope he's in some rebelion agianst slave trade and is a super dooper kind hearted guy fighting for freedom; thats just too f*in corny.

PS- Wow you can't say **** ? Wierd.

Modifié par Wishpig, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:22 .

[What is this]

I want the 400 page mark



WOOOO VARRIC!

[Wishpig]

What is this wrote...

I want the 400 page mark

WOOOO VARRIC!

Lol is it really a big deal? CAUSE IF SO I WANT IT MOVE ASIDE!

[Risax]

yukidama wrote...

If someone broke in and painted it, they must have had a lot of time to do so in order to take the weapons down, paint the symbol, and then place the weapons back properly. It looks too clean, I think it was on purpose.

It could be that Varric has just cleaned up everything, his place could have been a mess before and he probably could not get the paint of (Maker I hope it is paint).

But then again we are jumping to conclusions, maybe it isn't even Varrics house.
And even if he is a part of this rebellion, I doubt he will show it to the world. Remember, most people of Kirkwall see him as the lazy brother of a successfull merchant, that only wastes his brother money and tell stories. Though he is much more...

[namedforthemoon]

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.



Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

[nightcobra]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

i think they may see more of varric as the information broker of kirkwall.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

Adding onto that thought, in Witch Hunt (so about two years after the end of DA:O) there's a bit of side-chatter (not really Party banter) by a pair NPCs in the Library of the Circle about how Kirkwall is "swarming with refugees", and how "the Templars practically run the place and won't let anyone in or out."

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:35 .

[nightcobra]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

Adding onto that thought, in Witch Hunt (so about two years after the end of DA:O) there's a bit of side-chatter (not really Party banter) by a pair NPCs in the Library of the Circle about how Kirkwall is "swarming with refugees", and how "the Templars practically run the place and won't let anyone in or out."

they said the refugee camp was already bigger than kirkwall itself, i wonder if it's just exaggeration or actually the truth. 

[namedforthemoon]

From his bio page:



"I know everyone in this city. Well, everyone worth knowing."



Words are his trade, exaggeration his specialty—Varric can make or break a legend without lifting a finger. Born into a merchant guild, Varric never knew a dwarven homeland, and has never worked the Stone. He prefers a warm tavern fire, a mug that never empties, a willing audience, and an unwilling subject. He can spin a grand story of Ancestors and Paragons—or anything you like—but it’s not out of reverence. Truth is just another commodity. History is written by the victors, but it can also be written by Varric, who then decides the victors. If you want profit, look to his brother, Bartrand, a scoundrel with a true head for business. But if you want to be remembered, Varric is your man.



He does sound sort of lazy from the description. Probably got that awesome crossbow from his brother's trade, somehow. But, then again, if he's off traipsing around with Hawke, he can't be that lazy, can he? Guess it depends on what's in it for him.

[namedforthemoon]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Thandal NLyman wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

Adding onto that thought, in Witch Hunt (so about two years after the end of DA:O) there's a bit of side-chatter (not really Party banter) by a pair NPCs in the Library of the Circle about how Kirkwall is "swarming with refugees", and how "the Templars practically run the place and won't let anyone in or out."

they said the refugee camp was already bigger than kirkwall itself, i wonder if it's just exaggeration or actually the truth. 

I think it's an exaggeration that the refugee camp is bigger than Kirkwall itself, but I believe the part about the Templars running the place. And if that's true... How do you think a family of Apostate mages (meaning Bethany and possibly Hawke) is going to feel about that, along with the mages that already have to live under them? If the templars have their hands full with a Qunari invasion AND a bunch of refugees, sounds like a perfect time for a rebellion by angry mages.

[namedforthemoon]

I forgot to add, especially if you played Amell in Origins and you asked for the Ferelden circle to be freed, and that choice imports to your new DA2 game.

[Wishpig]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

It could have changed parties, but even though we're doing a s***ton of assuming, I think guessing the symbol of the anti-slave trade rebellion doesn't represent anything to do with slave slaves is a stretch. Although thats a very intresting theory that could be pretty cool.

The city is one with a terrible history of slave trade, the description really enforces that. So I think slavery will play a role somehow.

Slave trade... a companion whose a merchant prince, whose family dominates trade? I can't help but think the two will be tied somehow.

Modifié par Wishpig, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:44 .

[namedforthemoon]

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

It could have changed parties, but even though we're doing a s***ton of assuming, I think guessing the symbol of the anti-slave trade rebellion doesn't represent anything to do with slave slaves is a stretch.

The city is one with a terrible history of slave trade, the description really enforces that. So I think slavery will play a role somehow.

Possibly. Unless the mages are now slaves to the Templars. Which, they may not be slaves per se, but I'm sure they feel like chained dogs, or birds locked in a gilded cage that want to be let out.