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[Risax]

Varric being a lazy younger brother that just spends his brothers money is just a cover for the fact that he runs a spy network. You know that don't you?

EDIT: Woohoo 400 posts!!!

Modifié par Risax, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:45 .

[namedforthemoon]

Risax wrote...

Varric being a lazy younger brother that just spends his brothers money is just a cover for the fact that he runs a spy network. You know that don't you?

EDIT: Woohoo 400 posts!!!

I know.

And dang, I have to go to work! Meh, work. Good conversation, Wishpig.


Oh, and someone please turn that screenshot into a wallpaper? Please?

Modifié par namedforthemoon, 19 décembre 2010 - 09:47 .

[Wishpig]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

It could have changed parties, but even though we're doing a s***ton of assuming, I think guessing the symbol of the anti-slave trade rebellion doesn't represent anything to do with slave slaves is a stretch.

The city is one with a terrible history of slave trade, the description really enforces that. So I think slavery will play a role somehow.

Possibly. Unless the mages are now slaves to the Templars. Which, they may not be slaves per se, but I'm sure they feel like chained dogs, or birds locked in a gilded cage that want to be let out.

Chained dogs and birds who can accidently open up a portal that will unleash demons terrible beyond belief. Pretty diffrent stuff.

[ankuu]

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

It could have changed parties, but even though we're doing a s***ton of assuming, I think guessing the symbol of the anti-slave trade rebellion doesn't represent anything to do with slave slaves is a stretch. Although thats a very intresting theory that could be pretty cool.

The city is one with a terrible history of slave trade, the description really enforces that. So I think slavery will play a role somehow.

Slave trade... a companion whose a merchant prince, whose family dominates trade? I can't help but think the two will be tied somehow.

Yea and it's weird how he tells to Cassandra everything about Hawke...Maybe at the beginning he wasn't an LI but more of a dark character that appeared to be your friend then backstab!

[Risax]

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Varric, the lazy younger brother who rides on his brother's successful money-making coat tails? Hmmm... Could be. It's possible.

Anyway, Wishpig, did you not see that I mentioned that the symbol might have changed parties? I really think that a mage rebellion is going to happen in Kirkwall. It's like the game is set up for it, what with Hawke's father and sister (and possibly self) being apostates, one of the largest circles exists in Kirkwall, along with a whole lotta templars.

It could have changed parties, but even though we're doing a s***ton of assuming, I think guessing the symbol of the anti-slave trade rebellion doesn't represent anything to do with slave slaves is a stretch.

The city is one with a terrible history of slave trade, the description really enforces that. So I think slavery will play a role somehow.

Possibly. Unless the mages are now slaves to the Templars. Which, they may not be slaves per se, but I'm sure they feel like chained dogs, or birds locked in a gilded cage that want to be let out.

Chained dogs and birds who can accidently open up a portal that will unleash demons terrible beyond belief. Pretty diffrent stuff.

We know that they are dangerous, very dangerous, even some of the mages will admit that.
But I get the feeling that the Kirkwallian Circle and it's Templars, are much much worse then the one back in Ferelden, and not only the mages are ruled over by the Templars but so are a lot of your normal citizens in Kirkwall. Lowtown and Darktown for example sound like dangerous and unpleasent places.

So pretty much anyone could have started the rebellion, though I have no doubt that some of the mages are included in it. But why they would target Varric? Well he's rich.

[Chagrinned Goat]

namedforthemoon wrote...
Oh, and someone please turn that screenshot into a wallpaper? Please?

How big and how snazzy?

ankuu wrote...
Yea and it's weird how he tells to Cassandra everything about Hawke...Maybe at the beginning he wasn't an LI but more of a dark character that appeared to be your friend then backstab!

Well, we don't know exactly what he's telling her, aside from exaggerated stories, but somehow I don't think it would work to just brush off an angry templar demading information. That's how I've interpreted the scene, anyway, not him just shouting about Hawke to anyone he sees, but navigating through a situation forced on him. Turning his back isn't an option, so he's doing what he does best.



Also, RE: Varric's theme song. As much as I love Godot, this is more what I envision.

Modifié par Chagrinned Goat, 19 décembre 2010 - 10:03 .

[Apollo Starflare]

I half expect the screenshot with the graffiti to be in a bar, but that might be in part because of Varric's backstory telling tales in a tavern.



I wouldn't be surprised if a group of Magi have taken the symbol for their own as they rebel against the Chantry, I'm thinking the most Varric actually has to do with it is that he knows some information about the group (or something) thanks to his connections.



I very much doubt the Tethras family is involved in slavery, but you never know. It would certainly make an interesting twist if Varric had to choose between his 'new' family and his old one.

[Steingrimur Steingrimsson]

Risax wrote...

Varric being a lazy younger brother that just spends his brothers money is just a cover for the fact that he runs a spy network. You know that don't you?

EDIT: Woohoo 400 posts!!!

More like 10,000... That really should not be sneezed at.

Modifié par Steingrimur Steingrimsson, 19 décembre 2010 - 11:20 .

[namedforthemoon]

400th page, I think he means.



Not overly snazzy, and something in the 1600x900 range? Thanks!

[Apollo Starflare]

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

Risax wrote...

Varric being a lazy younger brother that just spends his brothers money is just a cover for the fact that he runs a spy network. You know that don't you?

EDIT: Woohoo 400 posts!!!

More like 10,000... That really should not be sneezed at.

And that's not including Varric thread #1.

The great thing is, I've found the thread (with some exceptions) has mostly avoided turning into one of 'those' fan threads, instead usually having mostly interesting and on topic (or at the very least, DA2 related) posts. I can see why some forumites might not like character threads, but it gets really blown out of proportion. Generally Varric and Fenris posters (for example) don't invade other threads on the DA2 forum for example. This is mostly in regards to that blog entry posted a few pages back, just don't see why some people get so worked up about it.

[lv12medic]

400 pages of Varric thread on the wall;
400 pages of Varric!

Take one down, pass it around;
Soon it will be 401 pages of Varric thread on the wall!

(It kind of fits if you can say it fast enough...)
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As for Varric's Family being involved in elf slave trade? Who knows; I suppose it's possible. We know Kirkwall used to be a slave trade hub during the peak of the Tevinter Empire, but I don't know if anything like that would be appreciated now. It'd have to be done really under the table and in the shadows to operate. And not some half-assed cover story like Loghain's/Howe's/Vaughn's/"idiot in charge of the alienage" quarantine of the Alienage in Denerim.

Modifié par lv12medic, 19 décembre 2010 - 11:57 .

[Risax]

lv12medic wrote...

400 pages of Varric thread on the wall;
400 pages of Varric!

Take one down, pass it around;
Soon it will be 401 pages of Varric thread on the wall!

(It kind of fits if you can say it fast enough...)
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As for Varric's Family being involved in elf slave trade? Who knows; I suppose it's possible. We know Kirkwall used to be a slave trade hub during the peak of the Tevinter Empire, but I don't know if anything like that would be appreciated now. It'd have to be done really under the table and in the shadows to operate. And not some half-assed cover story like Loghain's/Howe's/Vaughn's/"idiot in charge of the alienage" quarantine of the Alienage in Denerim.

Ms.Kirby said that Varrics family became surface dwarves before Varrics time, but not if it were his parents or grandparents or great grandparents that where the first to become surfacers.

So yeah, if his family became surfacers when Kirkwall was occupied by the Tevinters then maybe they where slave traders. And if Varrics family was, then it could lead to some interesting conversations between Varric and Fenris.

[Xewaka]

Risax wrote...

lv12medic wrote...

400 pages of Varric thread on the wall;
400 pages of Varric!

Take one down, pass it around;
Soon it will be 401 pages of Varric thread on the wall!

(It kind of fits if you can say it fast enough...)
------------
As for Varric's Family being involved in elf slave trade? Who knows; I suppose it's possible. We know Kirkwall used to be a slave trade hub during the peak of the Tevinter Empire, but I don't know if anything like that would be appreciated now. It'd have to be done really under the table and in the shadows to operate. And not some half-assed cover story like Loghain's/Howe's/Vaughn's/"idiot in charge of the alienage" quarantine of the Alienage in Denerim.

Ms.Kirby said that Varrics family became surface dwarves before Varrics time, but not if it were his parents or grandparents or great grandparents that where the first to become surfacers.

So yeah, if his family became surfacers when Kirkwall was occupied by the Tevinters then maybe they where slave traders. And if Varrics family was, then it could lead to some interesting conversations between Varric and Fenris.

Their parents. And despite dwarves living longer than humans, I believe the Tevinter Empire fell to pieces before the Tethras family going topside. THey might have been involved in slave trade, but not for Tevinter.

[Risax]

Then I doubt they where slave traders, there could still be some underground slave trading going on in Kirkwall. But I don't think that the Tethras brothers have anything to do with it, even if Bartrand is called a scroundel of a man.

[Xewaka]

Risax wrote...

Then I doubt they where slave traders, there could still be some underground slave trading going on in Kirkwall. But I don't think that the Tethras brothers have anything to do with it, even if Bartrand is called a scroundel of a man.

Nah. Bartrand is a honest bussinessman. Probably working on the field of private security.

[Risax]

Speaking of Bartrand, do you think we get to meet him in-game?
It would be fun if you could do some quest from him, and as a reward he gives you a discount at all his merchants.

Or maybe he has something to do with Varric's personall quest, maybe it is something like aimo's drawing?

Modifié par Risax, 20 décembre 2010 - 12:16 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Xewaka wrote...
Probably working on the field of private security.

Bartrand: "I specialize in a very specific type of security."

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 20 décembre 2010 - 12:21 .

[Risax]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
Probably working on the field of private security.

Bartrand: I specialize in a very specific type of security.

Dwarves can't enter the fade.
Unless they are drawn in by powerfull magic.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Risax wrote...
Dwarves can't enter the fade.
Unless they are drawn in by powerfull magic.

Shhhh. >__>

[Risax]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Risax wrote...
Dwarves can't enter the fade.
Unless they are drawn in by powerfull magic.

Shhhh. >__>

Okay I let it go.
But only because I love your art so much .

[What is this]

Has it been discussed of the possibility of Varric being a half dwarf? 

[Russalka]

What would the plot gain from Varric being a halfbreed?

[Xewaka]

What is this wrote...

Has it been discussed of the possibility of Varric being a half dwarf? 

He's too awesome to be a halfbreed. All him is pure, raw, unadultered Dwarfiness.

[Risax]

Dwarves already have a small chance to get children with other dwarves, let alone humans or elves.
But I have work tommorow so I need sleep.....-_--_--_-

Modifié par Risax, 20 décembre 2010 - 12:28 .