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[HolyJellyfish]

Considering the open ended story available with the first person narrative provided by Varric, I would be a very happy camper if the Devs made a reference to most fans fervent obsession to make the whole non-PC party romancable, as a constant joke and to keep people on their toes.



Hawke: "Varric. I think we got somethin' goin' on."

Varric: "Mmmhmm."

Hawke: "We've been through a lot together."

Varric: "mmmmmHmmmm..."

Hawke: "...Never asked for that sugar you offered..."

Varric: "Mmm mm mm....hmm..."

Hawke: "May I borrow... a cup... of your sugar?"

Varric: "Mmmhmm-"



Cassandra: "...Hold it.. Just... Hold it...... This whole time you've been telling me Hawke has fallen in love with a pirate, an exiled prince, some living weapon, a virginal elf, a widowed palladin, a mabari dog, a weird drunken incident with a perverted mage, and now you expect me to believe that somehow you two..."



Varric: "...Mmmhmmm."

[PoisonTheCity]

namedforthemoon wrote...

I think it was the French interview, but I don't recall the name of the magazine specifically.

Edit: I think it was this one. Anyone speak French?

Barely. I just skimmed through it, but didn't see any mention of number of romances. That's the article where Mike says that there's options for all orientations.

[Sigil_Beguiler123]

You know just a random thought when Varric is telling the story to Cassandra I wonder if your actions will alter her dialogue. Beyond just commenting but in terms of liking or disliking Hawke. It be even more amusing if she did end up a companion and already had her movement on the Friendship/Rivalry influenced by the story.

[Anarya]

PoisonTheCity wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

I think it was the French interview, but I don't recall the name of the magazine specifically.

Edit: I think it was this one. Anyone speak French?

Barely. I just skimmed through it, but didn't see any mention of number of romances. That's the article where Mike says that there's options for all orientations.

My grasp of French is extremely rusty but I skimmed it as well and came to the same conclusion. The only comment concerning romance is one by Mike:



Les compagnons ne sont pas tous intéréssés "romantiquement" à Hawke,
meme si il y a des options pour chaque genre et orientation.

Which says something like "The companions aren't all romantically interested in Hawke, but all the same there are options for each genre(? assuming this means the same as it does in English but I could be wrong) and orientation."

*has forgotten most of her High School French* It may have been the German article, but I don't speak a word of German so I can't help with that.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

^ Yep, that's right. According to my High School French, at least. XD

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 13 janvier 2011 - 10:24 .

[GameBoyish]

I don't caaaaare. I just want Varric!

<=== is high on meds (EDIT!)

Modifié par TriviaAeducan, 13 janvier 2011 - 10:30 .

[GameBoyish]

I just went to look at the "book portraits" again...



As many have mentioned, it seems Isabela, Varric, Merril, some guy (or Anders), Aveline, Fenris are featured.



That being said, their role must be pretty important in the tale of the champion... So if ALL of them lasting companions are romanceable, I'm not complaining XP

[emorah_slaytron]

Quick sketch for today's DVT, I have too much on my figurative plate for me to finish this in time. Will upload the completed version for next Thursday.




Click image for deviantArt link + notes on this.

[Anarya]

Now that's what I call classy!

[Xewaka]

Leisure suit Varric?

Get Al Lowe on the phone!

[emorah_slaytron]

First thing I thought when I saw him was: "Maker's balls, that's a fantasy-style pimp if I ever saw one!"



Surprised there is less pimp!Varric art. Felt I should draw one.

[Anarya]

There is a rather disconcerting lack of hair in that pic, though.

[emorah_slaytron]

Anarya wrote...

There is a rather disconcerting lack of hair in that pic, though.

Can't render the hair properly until I get the main parts of the painting done, if I paint it in now I'd end up painting over it in order to finish shading the chest properly, not to mention drawing that donut bling. Little details like fur (both human and faux) are ALWAYS kept to the final stages of a drawing.

[foxtrotcharlie]

Anarya wrote...
.
 Which says something like "The companions aren't all romantically interested in Hawke, but all the same there are options for each genre(? assuming this means the same as it does in English but I could be wrong) and orientation."

See? Very sketchy info. I  I mean I don't quite believe that the companions:  Merrill, Varric, Fenris, Bethany/Carver, Aveline, Mystery Male Human, and Isabella are the only ones in the entire game (excluding any DLC characters of course) .  Hawke's story stretches over ten years.  I have no doubt that there will be many other temporary companions that aren't connected to the 'legend' of Hawke, but present all the same.

Oh interesting tidbit: I always look back to the logo of DA II where it shows Hawke and behind him are approximately 19.  Some may be antagonists, but perhaps they are also characters or companions that you meet in your journey?
Well, anyway....

Varric will be an LI.  :innocent:

Positive thinking.<3 Keep saying it to yourselves!

Modifié par foxtrotcharlie, 13 janvier 2011 - 03:44 .

[Patriciachr34]

Honestly I'll trust the writers on this one. Whomever the LI's are they will be compelling in one way or another. Whoever isn't a LI will be equally compelling in their own way. I do know that the mix will be balanced and make for an amazing story. Right now I am content to sit in front of Bioware's virtual X-mas tree, occasionally shaking the boxes until March 8th to find out if my guesses were correct (or whose guesses were correct).

[mellifera]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

Honestly I'll trust the writers on this one. Whomever the LI's are they will be compelling in one way or another. Whoever isn't a LI will be equally compelling in their own way. I do know that the mix will be balanced and make for an amazing story. Right now I am content to sit in front of Bioware's virtual X-mas tree, occasionally shaking the boxes until March 8th to find out if my guesses were correct (or whose guesses were correct).

Yeah, this.

Not that I won't be disappointed if Varric isn't an LI. It's not even about Varric himself, really. It's that there's finally a real opportunity for a non-standard looking LI (as in, not a pretty elf or a pretty human) and dwarves get the shaft all the time (unless you're the player, and even then you can't romance another dwarf). Varric presents a unique opportunity where he isn't a drunk/comedic effect/widowed/married/part of an x-pac/etc as far as we know, so it just feels like a loss if there's a good-looking, compelling, interesting dwarf who gets passed over as being thought of in a romantic sense merely because of his being a dwarf.

It's really just me being a bitter dwarf fangirl in the corner.

Modifié par yukidama, 13 janvier 2011 - 06:35 .

[jackkel dragon]

Sigil_Beguiler123 wrote...

You know just a random thought when Varric is telling the story to Cassandra I wonder if your actions will alter her dialogue. Beyond just commenting but in terms of liking or disliking Hawke. It be even more amusing if she did end up a companion and already had her movement on the Friendship/Rivalry influenced by the story.

Reminds me of Alpha Protocol, where the villain could like or dislike you based on what you did during the game. If he likes you, there is an option to join the bad guys.

Also, I took DVT and decided to do DMT instead. Please don't kill me...

[Patriciachr34]

I second the dwarf fangirl Yuki. I would love if Varric were a LI, but as Bioware is all about substance I know I will not be too terribly disappointed if he is not. Somehow they'll make up for it.

[Xewaka]

yukidama wrote...
It's really just me being a bitter dwarf fangirl in the corner.

I'm still bitter I can't play a dwarf this time. Hell, I find unfair I have to put up with at least two elves but I'm only given one dwarf. Now Varric has to be double awesome to offset the dual suck.
The only saving grace is that said dwarf seems to be the main male lead of the game.

Modifié par Xewaka, 13 janvier 2011 - 06:39 .

[mellifera]

Yeah, I just feel like ARGH throw us dwarf fans a bone, here. I see a lot of comments about how if a character is compelling enough then it shouldn't matter if they're a dwarf or elf or human, but it never seems to work for dwarves. If it truly doesn't matter, then what's the problem? Why can't one of the warriors be a female dwarf, then? Why can't an LI be a dwarf? Why human/elf okay, especially when there's such a history of abuse and exploitation between the two races? There is so much lore and history to explore, why not a dwarf? I'm sure hypothetical dwarf can fit the story just as well as hypothetical human or hypothetical elf.

At least we have Varric, who is being treated as a serious character with a large, pivotal role in the story. A step forward is a step forward, I ain't knocking it.

Modifié par yukidama, 13 janvier 2011 - 07:09 .

[jackkel dragon]

Xewaka wrote...
The only saving grace is that said dwarf seems to be the main male lead of the game.

He's not the main male lead.

He's the leading man.

[dpixie87]

jackkel dragon wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
The only saving grace is that said dwarf seems to be the main male lead of the game.

He's not the main male lead.

He's the leading man.

I would now suggest putting Varric in Balthier's vest but that would cover up the chest hair and that would be a crime.

Modifié par dpixie87, 13 janvier 2011 - 07:49 .

[Patriciachr34]

It would be worse than a crime. It would be sacrilege!

[MarginalBeast]

yukidama wrote...

Yeah, I just feel like ARGH throw us dwarf fans a bone, here. I see a lot of comments about how if a character is compelling enough then it shouldn't matter if they're a dwarf or elf or human, but it never seems to work for dwarves. If it truly doesn't matter, then what's the problem? Why can't one of the warriors be a female dwarf, then? Why can't an LI be a dwarf? Why human/elf okay, especially when there's such a history of abuse and exploitation between the two races? There is so much lore and history to explore, why not a dwarf? I'm sure hypothetical dwarf can fit the story just as well as hypothetical human or hypothetical elf.

At least we have Varric, who is being treated as a serious character with a large, pivotal role in the story. A step forward is a step forward, I ain't knocking it.

I'm pretty sure that if Varric isn't a LI, it won't be because the writers have something against dwarves. There are probably several reasons why certain characters are or are not possible love interests, not just race or overall attractiveness (although that probably factors in at least a little bit).

Maybe they thought it would be too difficult to weave into Varric's narration. Maybe they thought other characters were better suited for a romance for whatever reason. Who knows?

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:16 .

[mellifera]

I'm not saying that is specifically the reason why Varric in particular won't be an LI. I'm not accusing the writers of having something against dwarves, the fact that they're included at all and put in a role such as this is evidence enough.

What I am saying is that regardless of their role in the story, oftentimes dwarf characters are not seen as potential romantic interests merely because they are dwarves. I acknowledge that as the narrator there would probably be issues with Varric being a love interest, but that's not necessarily something they couldn't work around if they wanted to. I respect that if it is too difficult for Varric in particular to be an LI, then fine. Would we be in the same position though, if Varric had been a human male? No matter how you cut it, his chances would have increased exponentially. Dwarves are just not seen "that way" by the general public, and dwarves only really get some when the player is the dwarf because you're the gorram player and everyone wants you regardless (and even then s/he has to go with humans or elves unless she goes to a brothel or stays in Orzammar) or as NPCs who have relationships with other dwarves.

When we do get a dwarf character, they're either totally drunk and unappealing or otherwise taken or they're good-looking, kickass and awesome but not a love interest. It's just that the trend seems to be that dwarves are okay as friends, companions, etc, anything but sexy or attractive or worthy of having the same sort of relationships that humans and evles can. It's why it's so commonly accepted that Fenris is going to be an LI, or Human-Male-Who-I-Hope-Isn't-Anders is going to be an LI but Varric isn't despite having no confirmations about any of them.

To me it just seems that especially in a case where you play a human character, the mere fact that a character is a dwarf automatically precludes them from being considered anything more than a friend by the PC. Which is why I think it would be great for BioWare to include a dwarf LI in general, as I see it this is really an issue beyond Varric, but includes him as well. Varric is a prime chance they have here, whether or not they choose to take it is their prerogative and I will enjoy the game either way. But still, you know?

I can't wait for The Hobbit movie, tbh. Sexy dwarf overload.

Modifié par yukidama, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:01 .