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[leggywillow]

Dhiro wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

Honestly, there's no need for you guys to start being petty.  Anders has his share of petty fans, but so does Varric apparently.  We aren't all unreasonable dwarf haters.

That was for me?

Not particularly.  It was more in reponse to using Dave's articulate post to antagonize Anders fans.  Hopefully that was not its intended purpose.

[lv12medic]

Herr Uhl wrote...

I'm kind of liking the rivalry. When the inevitable reveal comes, the side that hasn't will blame the other side.

It's like the Cold War all over again.

[Calistrata]

Decided to delurk to show my support to fellow Varric and dwarf lovers before I try to go into a Media blackout before the game release(will most likeley fail miserably, as i did with DA O). popping by this thread is usually the first thing i do before i go to work every morning to wiew awesome fanart and comments.

Edit: looks like i decided to pop in at a bad time, figures

Modifié par Calistrata, 13 février 2011 - 09:26 .

[Russalka]

It is not an unreasonable post, and that is not exactly a fan thread.

[Dhiro]

If you guys want to screw with other threads, go and do it, I don't care. Just don't bring the consequences of your imbecile actions to the Varric thread.

[namedforthemoon]

kylecouch wrote...

it has been done....Dave of Canada post transfer....complete...

Dammit, Kyle.

[aimo_ahmed]

Trying to stir sh*t up because you can't didn't get your own LI is so classy <_<

Modifié par aimo_ahmed, 13 février 2011 - 09:23 .

[mellifera]

Yep, time to jump ship until this blows over. I'm all for a good argument but this isn't productive in the least.

[leggywillow]

Russalka wrote...

It is not an unreasonable post, and that is not exactly a fan thread.

You're right; it wasn't an unreasonable post.  It had a lot of interesting things to think about that maybe we can have an intelligent discussion about in the Anders thread.

But basically "daring" other people to do it because you're hoping to get a rise out of Anders fans is a pretty crap thing to do.

[dpixie87]

leggywillow wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

Honestly, there's no need for you guys to start being petty.  Anders has his share of petty fans, but so does Varric apparently.  We aren't all unreasonable dwarf haters.

That was for me?

Not particularly.  It was more in reponse to using Dave's articulate post to antagonize Anders fans.  Hopefully that was not its intended purpose.

It wasn't, but unfortuantly there are always idiots around who'll use it for that purpose and idiots who'll take that way no matter what anyone says about it. <_<
If it does start a flame war I'm stepping out until it's finished.

[Russalka]

Oh indeed, I told him to remove it.

[Neesee]

So I'm not gonna come and see craziness outside the usual soon? YAY!

[soignee]

wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

[Dave of Canada]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Now, on the flip side of Dave's post, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate. Ander's personal quest is that you go to the mage circle to get someone into the Fade to kill the demon of Vengeance so that Anders can finally be free (a la Connor in DAO). Once you do that, he's happy and romanceable and becomes an LI.

Now this is a toughie, I can't really figure out if Anders is can be cured. We know an abomination that gives himself over willingly will remain human like Connor and can be cured, those taken by force are possessed into the flesh-monsters we see through out the game.

The problem here is, Anders let the spirit in but not the demon. It's hard to tell which side of the coin Anders will fall on, case A or B.

Assuming it's case B, Anders cannot be cured and will struggle until he eventually loses or dies.

Assuming it's case A, we'd need a lot of ritual and quite a few mages to pull off this ritual... or blood magic, though I doubt they'd do a repeat of the Connor situation where you can sacrifice Isolde's twin sister or something. So I'll assume it's done with the ritual that leads to the fade, Anders is a wanted apostate and Hawke can be one too which leads us to a pretty bad situation.

Would the mages assist them both? The only reason the mages helped our Wardens was because we stopped the destruction of the Circle and they owed us, this includes having the First Enchanter dealing with the situation personally. This is excluding how the lyrium required for the ritual is supposed to be a lot, though the mages would probably have this in storage somewhere.

Why would the mages help Hawke? Why would the templar allow them the help? Now it gets even more complicated, assuming this sidequest is done after you've sided with either the Chantry or blew it up (which would probably put somebody in your debt somewhere) then... why would Anders still be there? He'd be completely devoted to destroying the Chantry, if you've already done it or something... he has no purpose, he'd probably become fully possessed at this point.

If it's done during the war, where Anders is probably too focused on it as a whole, why would the templar or mages assist Hawke and Anders? They still owe them nothing and they are probably too occupied fighting the war to care about one apostate's fate.

If it's done before, once again... why would they care about Anders? You can possibly be an apostate, Anders is one and your sister (if she's alive) is one. You might also be carrying a Dalish Keeper around, which is usually bad news in public places. They owe Hawke nothing, they would probably hunt him/her down instead.

To me, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. Which is more... Varricesque.

Edit: We're off-topic, though. This is about Varric and not about Anders.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 13 février 2011 - 09:28 .

[Dhiro]

soignee wrote...

wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

I ate it. It was delicious and moist.

[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

You never had one to begin with.

Your mind = Blown

[Russalka]

Modifié par Russalka, 13 février 2011 - 11:28 .

[Calla S]

soignee wrote...
wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

*offers soignee some cheesecake*

Great post, Dave. Consider the things I've read about Varric and his fans in the Anders thread lately, I'm not surprised it's sort of wandered in this direction. We're not looking for a fight or a rivalry. We're making our point about why there's a good chance Varric will be an LI. That's it. 

[Herr Uhl]

Calla S wrote...

soignee wrote...
wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

*offers soignee some cheesecake*

Great post, Dave. Consider the things I've read about Varric and his fans in the Anders thread lately, I'm not surprised it's sort of wandered in this direction. We're not looking for a fight or a rivalry. We're making our point about why there's a good chance Varric will be an LI. That's it. 

It is rather points why Anders won't be one, and thus Varric.

[soignee]

GDI WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO ABOUT CAKE AROUND HERE DON'T MAKE ME SPAM MY DWARVES OUT OF CAKES DRAWINGS



also I will bake delicious hat-shaped cakes and eat them if Mr. Canada's theory is true.

[lv12medic]

soignee wrote...

wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

Varric ate it.

*edit*  Wow, BSN is being nice and laggy today.. Took a few minutes for this post to even show up... II guess it's all the LI armies manuevering into position for tomorrow, at which point EA/Bioware won't reveal anything and we will all be back to square one *end edit*

Modifié par lv12medic, 13 février 2011 - 09:34 .

[Calla S]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Calla S wrote...

soignee wrote...
wtf just happened here, where is my cake?

*offers soignee some cheesecake*

Great post, Dave. Consider the things I've read about Varric and his fans in the Anders thread lately, I'm not surprised it's sort of wandered in this direction. We're not looking for a fight or a rivalry. We're making our point about why there's a good chance Varric will be an LI. That's it. 

It is rather points why Anders won't be one, and thus Varric.

Uh, not entirely? Given that Anders is one of the only things standing between Varric being a sure thing and not, mentioning why Anders might not be an LI is one way to aid the argument that Varric will be. That's not unheard of, nor is it particularly inflammatory.

[Herr Uhl]

Calla S wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
It is rather points why Anders won't be one, and thus Varric.

Uh, not entirely? Given that Anders is one of the only things standing between Varric being a sure thing and not, mentioning why Anders might not be an LI is one way to aid the argument that Varric will be. That's not unheard of, nor is it particularly inflammatory.

But you can't see how it could be seen that way, when both threads seem to be relying their aguments on why the other won't be a LI?

I don't see why it is so important anyways.

[soignee]

*eats Calla's cheesecake, finally placated*

*quietly waves Varric-as-a-LI flag*

[Calla S]

It's not 'important.' It's us trying get a foot hold into why we think our preferred love interest might have a chance. This isn't the first time it's happened, and it won't be the last. It's a discussion. On the Internet. Not a bfd.

Modifié par Calla S, 13 février 2011 - 09:37 .