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[kcwME]

yukidama wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

kcwME wrote...
Yes but they did it after...

a.) the Fox thing (I feel revenge was a strong reason for so many alien romances in ME2)
b.) she had a strong fanbase so it was less of a gamble

And not to mention ME team =/= DA team.

I highly doubt Fox's reaction is a factor in their decision making any more than it was before the sexbox fiasco.

This.

Well, doesn't change that I do think it did play a part (despite whatever PR says) so I guess we'll agree to disagree.

[Calla S]

Frankly, if Varric isn't an LI in DA2, I don't want him to be an LI in DA3 if Hawke isn't the PC. Having them build up a report between him and Hawke only to have him romance someone else is the last thing I'd be interested in.

Modifié par Calla S, 14 février 2011 - 01:13 .

[kcwME]

Calla S wrote...

Frankly, if Varric isn't an LI in DA2, I don't want him to be an LI in DA3 if Hawke isn't the PC. Having them build up a report between him and Hawke only to have him romance someone else is the last thing I'd be interested in.

What if they decided to continue using Hawke?

Anway, I think I've derailed this thread enough! I got stuff to do so Peace everybody! <3

[HolyJellyfish]

I doubt Hawke won't be a PC for DA3. They are building up the character far far FAR too much, and it would disenchant the audience that Bioware is TRYING to pull into the story - casual gamers who recognize iconic lead characters and really only play the default appearance.

[Calla S]

You never know. I'm sure people thought their Warden would be in for the long haul, as well. That said, I'm barely holding it together while waiting for DA2 as it is. I'd rather not be told to sit in a corner and "wait my turn."

[foxtrotcharlie]

kcwME wrote...
Yeah, I get the feeling his story is going to be a heart-wrenching one. And I guess I'm just too jaded to think they would try to break down social mores w/o a half-gurantee. *bittertears*

*Hands a tissue* Oh, I know, my friend.  I believe that the wait has taken its toll on all of us, in more ways that one.  I think that its just the pressure that many of the female fans (myself included) feel at the fact that the devs haven't released any official information of FHawke's possible LI's.  (I think that, through the demo, Isabella is definitely the bisexual LI).  *sighs* Well here's to hoping Valentines Day arrives with news of relief, exultation, and celebration. Cheers! 

[HolyJellyfish]

Calla S wrote...

You never know. I'm sure people thought their Warden would be in for the long haul, as well. That said, I'm barely holding it together while waiting for DA2 as it is. I'd rather not be told to sit in a corner and "wait my turn."

True, but DA:O wasn't being built up nearly as much as DA2 is, with the core audience being less serious gamers and RPG fans... more casual gamers who are all 'Rip ogre in half? LIKE!'. The quick action, iconic lead character, guitar riff trailer music are all pointing fingers towards Lead Hero Image Covering Franchise to me.

If, for whatever reason Varric as an LI will have to wait until DA3, while you may... MAY have to wait out and be told to wait your turn, the pay off is probably going to be far far more satisfactory. I don't know if Varric is going to be LI or not, but if for whatever reason he isn't, I get the feeling hints will be tied very deeply into the DA2 story. There is also always the possibility of DLC.

[foxtrotcharlie]

Tealsie wrote...

So if Varric is supposed to be important in DA3, will he still be a companion, or will he be important, but seperate? (of course, if he's not an LI in this game, then he had better be a companion for the next too, so he'll at least have LI status 'then'. >_> )
...or was it Cass who's supposed to be important in DA3?

Ugggggg, worst situation ever = Cassandra starts hitting on Varric. or vice versa. And.I.Have.To.Watch. Maker help me--I may actually be overcome by my inner-fangirl rage (Anders/Vengence-style).....which isn't good....

I'm usually so good at controlling it...but if something like that were to happen...I--I--you don't think the devs would do allow something like that, would they? 

Modifié par foxtrotcharlie, 14 février 2011 - 01:30 .

[Dave of Canada]

Didn't know there was a line.

[Lucy Glitter]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If, for whatever reason Varric as an LI will have to wait until DA3, while you may... MAY have to wait out and be told to wait your turn, the pay off is probably going to be far far more satisfactory. I don't know if Varric is going to be LI or not, but if for whatever reason he isn't, I get the feeling hints will be tied very deeply into the DA2 story. There is also always the possibility of DLC.

Why do Varric fans have to wait? Wait for what?  We don't even know that Da3 will be about Hawke and his friends, it's not fair to say that.

[HolyJellyfish]

LI release info would be nice for Valentine's day. Character videos would be even more awesome.

[Leonia]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If, for whatever reason Varric as an LI will have to wait until DA3, while you may... MAY have to wait out and be told to wait your turn, the pay off is probably going to be far far more satisfactory. I don't know if Varric is going to be LI or not, but if for whatever reason he isn't, I get the feeling hints will be tied very deeply into the DA2 story. There is also always the possibility of DLC.

If there is a line, the Varric thread was here first (and this is the second thread). Just saying.

This "My favourite character is more important than your favourite character" business is really grating on my, and several other, posters' nerves lately. Can we go back to having intelligent conversations or is this just going to turn into a pissing contest of fan groups bumping heads with one another? I at least hope this attitude or arrogance and elitism disappears once the game is out and more is known about all of these characters.

Modifié par leonia42, 14 février 2011 - 01:43 .

[HolyJellyfish]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

If, for whatever reason Varric as an LI will have to wait until DA3, while you may... MAY have to wait out and be told to wait your turn, the pay off is probably going to be far far more satisfactory. I don't know if Varric is going to be LI or not, but if for whatever reason he isn't, I get the feeling hints will be tied very deeply into the DA2 story. There is also always the possibility of DLC.

Why do Varric fans have to wait? Wait for what?  We don't even know that Da3 will be about Hawke and his friends, it's not fair to say that.

I'm not saying it. I'm repeating what Calla S. said.

[erilben]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I doubt Hawke won't be a PC for DA3. They are building up the character far far FAR too much, and it would disenchant the audience that Bioware is TRYING to pull into the story - casual gamers who recognize iconic lead characters and really only play the default appearance.

That's not true. 80% used the character creator in ME2

[HolyJellyfish]

leonia42 wrote...

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Calla S wrote...

You never know. I'm sure people thought their Warden would be in for the long haul, as well. That said, I'm barely holding it together while waiting for DA2 as it is. I'd rather not be told to sit in a corner and "wait my turn."

True, but DA:O wasn't being built up nearly as much as DA2 is, with the core audience being less serious gamers and RPG fans... more casual gamers who are all 'Rip ogre in half? LIKE!'. The quick action, iconic lead character, guitar riff trailer music are all pointing fingers towards Lead Hero Image Covering Franchise to me.

If, for whatever reason Varric as an LI will have to wait until DA3, while you may... MAY have to wait out and be told to wait your turn, the pay off is probably going to be far far more satisfactory. I don't know if Varric is going to be LI or not, but if for whatever reason he isn't, I get the feeling hints will be tied very deeply into the DA2 story. There is also always the possibility of DLC.

If there is a line, the Varric thread was here first (and this is the second thread). Just saying.

This "My favourite character is more important than your favourite character" business is really grating on my, and several other, posters' nerves lately. Can we go back to have intelligent conversations or is this just going to turn into a pissing contest of fan groups bumping heads with one another? I at least hope this attitude disappears once the game is out and more is known about all these characters.

I know, and I believe the Varric thread deserves information about LI status first, more so than the other threads. I'm not suggesting my fav char is more important than anyone else's.

I blame anticipation for the game = stress.

[Herr Uhl]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

Calla S wrote...

You never know. I'm sure people thought their Warden would be in for the long haul, as well. That said, I'm barely holding it together while waiting for DA2 as it is. I'd rather not be told to sit in a corner and "wait my turn."

True, but DA:O wasn't being built up nearly as much as DA2 is, with the core audience being less serious gamers and RPG fans... more casual gamers who are all 'Rip ogre in half? LIKE!'. The quick action, iconic lead character, guitar riff trailer music are all pointing fingers towards Lead Hero Image Covering Franchise to me.

If, for whatever reason Varric as an LI will have to wait until DA3, while you may... MAY have to wait out and be told to wait your turn, the pay off is probably going to be far far more satisfactory. I don't know if Varric is going to be LI or not, but if for whatever reason he isn't, I get the feeling hints will be tied very deeply into the DA2 story. There is also always the possibility of DLC.

I highly doubt Hawke will be in future games. He/she will probably be chillin in Kirkwall when next protagonist does stuff elsewhere.

And the DAO trailers didn't show the Big Damn Hero during the Sacred Ashes one and the one going into the deep roads? Including guitar riffs.

[HolyJellyfish]

Herr Uhl wrote...

I highly doubt Hawke will be in future games. He/she will probably be chillin in Kirkwall when next protagonist does stuff elsewhere.

And the DAO trailers didn't show the Big Damn Hero during the Sacred Ashes one and the one going into the deep roads? Including guitar riffs.

Its all entirely speculative at this point. I personally am under the impression DA3 will probably expand on Hawke and his deep carving into history, but I suppose its too early to say anything.

The Big Damn Hero didn't receive nearly the amount of design attention that Hawke is. He doesn't have a name, a voice, a universal identity, etc. that are indicators of a title and series.

[Leonia]

@HolyJellyfish: I was using a generic "you" there, wasn't really directed at you personally. I'm mostly avoiding the forums now due to potential spoilers but even if that were not the case.. the gnashing of fangs amongst the fans (girls and boys) is really turning me off from posting around here lately.

[Sweet Snail]

Hi ! I've been lurking for a while and thinking about the probability of Varric being an LI... I thought maybe I could share my thoughts with you guys.



Well, I can't see much reasons why he couldn't be an LI. I understand that the fact he is a dwarf can be an obstacle, but frankly, that's a very little obstacle compared to Fenris' and Anders' ones. Fenris can't bare being touch and Anders has to deal with Justice. But on the other hand, those 'obstacles' can also make a romance interesting, so maybe it doesn't say anything.



From what I've heard so far, it seems that Hawke can flirt with a lot of companions, if not all. If I'm right, a romance doesn't ensue when the companion is not interested. From Varric, Fenris and Anders, who would you see reacting positively to Hawke's flirting ? My first thought would go to Varric.



And on top of that, there still is Sebastian. Who knows ? Maybe he will be the human romance option. =D (Ok, since there's a lot of Anders fangirls and he is a DLC, that's very unlikely, but one can dream.)



For the record, I wouldn't mind Varric, Fenris, Anders AND Sebastian being LIs. But oh well...

[Herr Uhl]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

The Big Damn Hero didn't receive nearly the amount of design attention that Hawke is. He doesn't have a name, a voice, a universal identity, etc. that are indicators of a title and series.

All of them have a surname, that is set. What do you mean by universal identity?

As for the Hawke being important to history, the rise to power in Kirkwall is his/her story. Unless the next game circles around waging wars, I have a hard time seeing how you can use Hawke.

Edit: Anyways, this is OT.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 14 février 2011 - 01:54 .

[HolyJellyfish]

leonia42 wrote...

@HolyJellyfish: I was using a generic "you" there, wasn't really directed at you personally. I'm mostly avoiding the forums now due to potential spoilers but even if that were not the case.. the gnashing of fangs amongst the fans (girls and boys) is really turning me off from posting around here lately.

No problem. I don't gnash at people unless someone starts knocking Isabela's looks. Then I get super pissy. I'm a little frustrated at all the nonsense running around about how one Character is more deserving of LI than another, and the misunderstandings because of that.

Everyone just wants the same game and more info. Three more weeks of excitement.

[Lucy Glitter]

leonia42 wrote...

@HolyJellyfish: I was using a generic "you" there, wasn't really directed at you personally. I'm mostly avoiding the forums now due to potential spoilers but even if that were not the case.. the gnashing of fangs amongst the fans (girls and boys) is really turning me off from posting around here lately.

Yes. Same here on both points. Not having a go at you, Jelly. Apologies.

[foxtrotcharlie]

Herr Uhl wrote...
As for the Hawke being important to history, the rise to power in Kirkwall is his/her story. Unless the next game circles around waging wars, I have a hard time seeing how you can use Hawke.

I don't think that I would mind this that much.  However, if anything, after DA:2, I hope that we get some sort of better explaination as to where Hawke goes.  I mean, some endings in DA:O, fine, like if you went searching for Morrigan or if you left for Val Rououx with Leliana.  But in my instance, where my warden was queen and married to Alistair, I think the epilogue said something among the lines of "some time later, she disappeared..." Upon reading that, I was flabbergasted.  

[HolyJellyfish]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

@HolyJellyfish: I was using a generic "you" there, wasn't really directed at you personally. I'm mostly avoiding the forums now due to potential spoilers but even if that were not the case.. the gnashing of fangs amongst the fans (girls and boys) is really turning me off from posting around here lately.

Yes. Same here on both points. Not having a go at you, Jelly. Apologies.

Totally cool. I tend to lurk on all of the boy threads since I'm in love with all of them, and for the most part I feel like I have to be careful with my posts. A lot of people are edgy and nervous and excited (including myself), so its very easy to take certain things out of context. Mostly me raising my hands going 'WOAH! I didn't do nuttin!' I meant nuttin'!' and putting OTHER people's posts out of context, assuming they are accusing when they aren't. (like the generic "you")

Unless its a negative post about Isabela's looks. Then that's when the dead nug hits the fan and people get torn apart. I don't deal for that.

Modifié par HolyJellyfish, 14 février 2011 - 02:08 .

[leggywillow]

leonia42 wrote...

If there is a line, the Varric thread was here first (and this is the second thread). Just saying.

Technically, the Anders people have been waiting since Awakening, if we're using the queue system. :innocent:

Anyway, I know the devs have said that companions will interact with each other much more extensively (maybe going to visit each other, etc).  We know that Varric and Isabela will be living in close proximity with each other, so what do you think their relationship will be like?  I know people already imagine them as being good buddies, but do you think they'll hook up?  I think the devs have shot down the idea of party members romancing each other, but that doesn't necessarily exclude a casual hookup, does it?  (Especially given what we know about Isabela.)