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[TheShadowmancer]

Tirigon wrote...

gi0m wrote...


Yeah. And we never walked on the moon.

Sure. The flag moves, that proves it. Cos of no atmosphere on the  moon and all, y´know?

Also, there has been no Moon landing since 1969, How stupid are you?! If it had been possible back then we would already live on the moon, considering the rate at which technology progresses.

Thing is there is no real point to live on the moon. No resources which means it would cost LOADS to supply and maintain the station there. What beneficial purpose could it even have?

[gi0m]

Thing is there is no real point to live on the moon. No resources which means it would cost LOADS to supply and maintain the station there. What beneficial purpose could it even have?

The only point of sending people to live on the moon would be for an exercise for a future colony on Mars. But even this is not worth the effort, as it would be easier and cheaper just to do it on Earth with simulated conditions. 

Modifié par gi0m, 26 août 2010 - 06:07 .

[JGDD]

Tirigon wrote...
In fact AIDS is a bio-weapon created by conservative terrorists (probably helped by the American Government) to eradivate homosexuals, but since they were unable to create a virus that won´t affect heteros it got out of hand and now everyone is threatened.... (Not that it would be better if they had succeeded, though.)

I can overlook PWENER's comment solely on the basis of being ignorant (or a sub-par troll), but this? Seriously, you need to loosen the tinfoil hat a bit because if you don't irreparable damage will be done. After following this thread for a while I have come to the conclusion that whenever you get your ass handed to you out comes the bullsh!t bag of tricks.

Instead of the arm chair conspiracy theory genius spewing from you try some real reading and research on the origin of AIDS/HIV. Before modern techniques were found to detect the virus several known cases were thought to have originated as far back as the late 1800's or early 1900's.

I suppose another of your beliefs is that the avian bird flu transmitted to humans was a scheme designed by white supremacists slated for Kentucky Fried Chicken co-opting in the not so distant future? Guess that failed in retrospect, too.

Modifié par justgimmedudedammit, 26 août 2010 - 05:24 .

[Sn0wst0rm]

Do not feed the troll.

[Phaedon]

Tirigon wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

I read somewhere that the flag was designed to move mechanically. Makes more sense than the conspiracy theories imho. 

Why would they do that?

You try to make things believable. You DON´T produce reasons for others to believe you lied. Unless you DID, in fact, lie and didn´t think it through.

Umm... why the attack ? I am just saying what I read years ago which I might not even remember correctly.
And why the hell should they send austronauts to the Moon again. The only reason would be if EU did it, which would be just a symbolical move, the space vehicles that they send are much more practical at analysis and collection than humans. 

[TheShadowmancer]

Oh god no. I hate radical conspiracy people. I was one and have experienced how unbelievably paranoid they are. There becomes a point where everything is a conspiracy to them...All forms of media,  foods and maybe even the pavement has some mind controlling agent in it. It is paranoia to an extreme level and I hope there is none of it in a MASS EFFECT DISCUSSION FORUM.

Modifié par TheShadowmancer, 26 août 2010 - 06:57 .

[Tirigon]

@ Giom: Don´t get angry. I SAID I understand your explanation why it moves, and I answered previously that it´s possible but it makes no sense to do. And I have yet to see any of the facts that prove the USA were on the moon.

And no, your explanation why the flag can move without atmosphere is NOT a proof.

[Tirigon]

Phaedon wrote...

Umm... why the attack ?

Sorry, I wasn´t trying to offend you. I used "you" more in the meaning of "someone", not in reference to you as an individual.

Modifié par Tirigon, 26 août 2010 - 07:25 .

[Tirigon]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

I suppose another of your beliefs is that the avian bird flu transmitted to humans was a scheme designed by white supremacists slated for Kentucky Fried Chicken co-opting in the not so distant future? Guess that failed in retrospect, too.

Never heard that Bullsh!t before. I don´t know many conspiracy theories, to be fair, and I don´t care for them either. I´m only interested in facts.

Sadly, the "conspiracy theory" I posted about how AIDS started is most probably one.

[TheShadowmancer]

Tirigon wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Umm... why the attack ?

individuum.

Erm...Individual?

[shootist70]

Tirigon wrote...

And I have yet to see any of the facts that prove the USA were on the moon.
.

Lordy, I've even seen an episode of Mythbusters were they explode the 'moon landings were a hoax' as something purely for conspiracy theory nuts.

[gi0m]

Tirigon wrote...

@ Giom: Don´t get angry. I SAID I understand your explanation why it moves, and I answered previously that it´s possible but it makes no sense to do. And I have yet to see any of the facts that prove the USA were on the moon.
And no, your explanation why the flag can move without atmosphere is NOT a proof.

It actually makes more sense than a staged video, which the director was murdered to mask the truth or a terrorist bio-weapon to eliminate gay people.
wow, that'd actually make a great movie plot, now that I'm thinking about!

Modifié par gi0m, 26 août 2010 - 07:17 .

[Tirigon]

TheShadowmancer wrote...


Erm...Individual?

Thanks, fix´d it. Accidentally wrote the German word first

[Tirigon]

shootist70 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

And I have yet to see any of the facts that prove the USA were on the moon.
.

Lordy, I've even seen an episode of Mythbusters were they explode the 'moon landings were a hoax' as something purely for conspiracy theory nuts.

Mythbusters.... I´d like to see this episode.




@Giom: The director doesn´t need to be murdered, if he´s trustworthy.


And a Bio-Weapon against homosexuals makes just as much sense as every weapon of mass destruction like nukes and stuff. Of course they don´t exist either.... oh wait:whistle:

[JGDD]

Tirigon wrote...
I´m only interested in facts.

Let's recap just for fun:

Tirigon wrote...
In fact AIDS is a bio-weapon created by
conservative terrorists (probably helped by the American Government) to
eradivate homosexuals, but since they were unable to create a virus that
won´t affect heteros it got out of hand and now everyone is
threatened.... (Not that it would be better if they had succeeded,
though.)

So you were saying?

[gi0m]

And a Bio-Weapon against homosexuals makes just as much sense as every weapon of mass destruction like nukes and stuff. Of course they don´t exist either.... oh wait:whistle:

Except these weapons are used to ensure a political domination of a country towards others. Not to secretly eradicate people who prefer to stuff their tobbaco inside the pipe instead of putting their sausages in hamburgers.

Modifié par gi0m, 26 août 2010 - 07:49 .

[shootist70]

Anyway, to get back to the OP's question - 'is interspecies pregnancy possible', the answer is a very possible 'yes'. Humans and Neanderthals are often considered as two seperate hominid species, yet the evidence is pretty strong that there was a fair amount of interbreeding going on.



Admittedly, though, they're from the same evolutionary ancestor. Obviously species 'alien' to each other wouldn't be.

[Sn0wst0rm]

That is a most definite no. Comparing other sapient races to a direct offshoot of our evolutionary path is illogical.

[shootist70]

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

That is a most definite no. Comparing other sapient races to a direct offshoot of our evolutionary path is illogical.

I already covered that. I'm answering the OP's question as it was asked - 'Does anyone know if interspecies pregnancy is possible?'

Modifié par shootist70, 26 août 2010 - 08:06 .

[Sn0wst0rm]

I think that I see what you are saying now. For clarification, you are not asserting that species which evolved separately from us would be capable of interbreeding; merely, that it appears that it happened inside our evolutionary path?

Modifié par Sn0wst0rm, 26 août 2010 - 08:20 .

[shootist70]

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

I think that I see what you are saying now. For clarification, you are not asserting that species which evolved separately from us would be capable of interbreeding; merely, that it appears that it happened inside our evolutionary path?

Nope. But then again... *quick thought experiment follows*...even if you took a common evolutionary ancestor and distributed it across solar systems by some panspermic method like asteroid impact ejecta, the only organism capable of surviving that sort of transition would be fairly basic and single-celled, and even then evolution on the  'seeded' planet would probably be billions of years behind the host planet by the time the seeding has took place. So there'd be far too much room for evolutionary divergence, considering evolution has lots of random factors and not purely causal ones. There's always a vanishingly small chance that evolution could reconverge independantly if it shares a common ancestor, but probability just wouldn't support it.

If you take a Star Trek style aliens-playing-god artificial panspermia, far later down the evolutionary line (say, when  hominid evolution has already kicked in) divergence will probably still occur into seperate hominid species, yet the Neanderthal example shows us that interbreeding might still be possible.

Hopefully that might answer the OP's question.

Modifié par shootist70, 26 août 2010 - 08:35 .

[Dama733]

TheShadowmancer wrote...

PWENER Where the **** do you get this messed up art work?!

Deviantart... trust me there is some messed up, and freaking Hilarious Mass Effect art on there.

Modifié par Dama733, 26 août 2010 - 09:39 .

[PWENER]

Dama733 wrote...

TheShadowmancer wrote...

PWENER Where the **** do you get this messed up art work?!

Deviantart... trust me there is some messed up, and freaking Hilarious Mass Effect art on there.

This human understands...

[Fiery Phoenix]

Tirigon wrote...

gi0m wrote...


No I don't. I'm not even American I don't see why I should believe US government anyway.

Then I don´t understand why you believe the Moon Landing and don´t believe the theory about AIDS I posted...

I have nothing to contribute to here, but regarding the waving flag on the Moon, read this:

http://www.badastron...pollo.html#flag

Written by a professional astronomer, Phil Plait.