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[tonnactus]

PWENER wrote...

What about Asari? They don't have your DNA, but it's your kid. You still won't escape this paternity suit.

This would be an interesting suit without the possibility to proove anything.

[Faerlyte]

I don't think it's likely, no, but there's nothing sick about mutual consent between two individuals that happen to like each other a great deal, and would like to express that to one another via physical contact. Calling it that is overbearingly chauvanistic and bigoted. It's no more disgusting than what you do with your girlfriend or your boyfriend. And it's none of your business either.

It's also bordering on a racist suggestion to say that, because an alien isn't a human (which for most people boils down to, it doesn't look the same), it's wrong for a human and an alien to love, phsyically or otherwise. That sentiment is morally wrong in every facet of the imagination. There is no argument here - it's wrong.

Yet it doesn't come as any surprise that people should feel that way when you consider that so many in today's world  have deemed it necessary to make other people's privacy, and who they share it with, somehow their business.

I don't care one way or another if it's possible for interspecies pregnancies in this context. If it's possible, which would be difficult to pull off considering the widely varying genetics between species from different planets, more power to the interspecies pair that want to go there. A lot of people want children - it would be no different in an interspcies relationship. I'm hesitant to pan anything born of love, but their could conceivably be scientific reasons that would make it a bad idea in the long run.

I'm not going to make any predictions of what can and can't happen in the Universe, or what the chance percentage would be for such a thing to occure, because when you consider the circumstances required to land us here, it's not so far fetched in the wide scope of things. The Universe is so big and so vast that even the smallest percentage chance can crop up.

On a side note to the person who mentioned mules, they are superior to horses in many respects, if not most. Their stamina and strength far surpasses that of a horse, so if that makes them "freaks" than I guess you can say that they're freakishly strong. But there's nothing wrong with them beyond the fact that they're unable to breed, if that's what you're suggesting. I've always wanted one myself.

[Computer_God91]

Synobal wrote...

tmk wrote...

Synobal wrote...
Though I always find it strange, I can understand Asari having breasts but I don't see why they would have a vagina. If they do have one it would be a remnant of evolution and indicate at some point in their evolutionary past there was a male of the species. If they don't have one, well I guess we know where everyones sticking it.

Having some sort of a vagina analogue doesn't necessarily imply sexual differentiation (especially since their evolution didn't necessarily follow the same path as ours). Of course it being an erogenous zone is kinda iffy...

That's sort what I was getting at they must have some sort of birth canal but since it isn't used in insemination, I doubt they get much from it.

Here give this a read, me and Crimsonwind pretty much proved the Asari have vaginas and are girls/women/female (or at least came as close as one could without seeing a nude asari)

[Eradyn]

@Synobal: I think you've misunderstood me. Quantum entanglement communicators are good sci-fi; I did not say they were reality (although in reality we ARE working on something similar in reality). Quantum teleportation is instant, by nature. There is no "transmission" in the typical sense. It is teleportation accomplished via quantum entanglement. This is the real future of our technology, including communication. While the communicators in ME are strictly ME constructs, they are based on rl science and scientific possibility.

[Synobal]

It's good sci fi but to say it's based on "on rl science and scientific possibility." I'd have to disagree. Bottom line is in Sci fi tech does the same role that magic does in a fantasy setting. So long as it's sounds neat and they make some half way attempt to explain it, typically doesn't need to any more than that to stand up on it's own.

[Eradyn]

...Seriously? Okay, as long as you grasp the point to some degree, then whatever. *shrug* I'm not going to squabble over it more than what's already been done.



And to remain somewhat on topic: no again to interspecies pregnancies. The fantasy genre might be able to get away with it, but ME isn't fantasy, it's sci-fi.

[Sn0wst0rm]

There was a thread about this a few months ago. I don't really feel like trying to find it at the moment, but it boiled down to the concept that the series is hard science fiction; that the concept of inter-species babies was essentially impossible from the codex entries and scientific fact.

[Mondo47]

Synobal wrote...

Bottom line is in Sci fi tech does the same role that magic does in a fantasy setting. So long as it's sounds neat and they make some half way attempt to explain it, typically doesn't need to any more than that to stand up on it's own.

I think Voltaire has this angle covered

[Eradyn]

I love that Voltaire song.

[Azaron Nightblade]

Hah! This thread reminds me of DnD where there are "Half-Everythings" (Half-Elves, Orcs, Dragons, Ogres, and the list goes on!).

[SelkathKing]

Mcovin wrote...

though it is a probably mostly impossible, maybe there could be interspecies pregnancy.

chromosomes would have to be very close to the same, i speculate tht quarians would be the only possibility, even then the offspring would most likely be a steril-freaky mutant thingy...thing

QUARIANS? You don't even know what they look like - and they don't even use the same genetic structuring system as we do. They use dextero DNA, we use dioxyribo. How could they POSSIBLY mate with us?

The closest species to humans in Mass Effect are the asari. And, no, it wouldn't work.

[cold52]

(somehow posted it twice)

Modifié par cold52, 16 août 2010 - 09:00 .

[Synobal]

ya in DND half this and that isn't always achieved by matingt though. Then again sometimes it is, you have to watch out for that polymorph spell. Sure he might be a hot guy now but he's really a old and powerful red dragon and you're gonna give birth to some scaled horrors.

[cold52]

SelkathKing wrote...

cold52 wrote...

ya know...inspite me believing it woulnt happen, or couldnt happen...its the future

better science and whatnot...id probably laugh my ass off at those people who dont think it possible(if i were alive to see it that is) if we ever did come into contact with several sentient species and with the help if science...well you know the rest

Funny thing is, that's not going to happen. FTL travel is impossible. Mass Effect makes it work by creating a fictional substance that allows FTL travel to work within the laws of physics. The chances for a substance like that existing is practically zero.

And, different sapient species would NEVER, and I mean NEVER be able to mate. Even if by some convoluted means they WERE to come in contact with each other.

read what I said...I said I dont believe it would either...
but we live in a world in which is constantly changing new tecnology, new therorys, old theorys being tossed out of the window, ect. to simply say somthing is impossible is a dumb way to look at it. science is there to help us understand things, and look at whats concidered impossible and make it possible not that they wont fail or every make it happen that is

what I simply said was that id find it funny to see those peoples faces who thought it impossible to be proven wrong...never said anything about it actually happening (because it more than likely wont).

Modifié par cold52, 16 août 2010 - 08:59 .

[Azaron Nightblade]

Synobal wrote...

ya in DND half this and that isn't always achieved by matingt though. Then again sometimes it is, you have to watch out for that polymorph spell. Sure he might be a hot guy now but he's really a old and powerful red dragon and you're gonna give birth to some scaled horrors.

LOL yup, I can sort of imagine the midwife passing out when she sees the baby! (shortly followed by mom herself)

[ciaweth]

I say this as someone whose mainShep romanced the HELL out of Garrus:



Part of the realism of the Mass Effect world is that, should you find yourself in a romance with a quarian, a turian, or a drell, one of the things you might wrestle with would be the biological incompatibilities, including the inability to produce offspring. Desperate to have kids naturally with your One True Love? Get into a relationship with an asari or a fellow human. Or, keep your alien lover and adopt, or use a surrogate, or whatever.



My Shepard doesn't want kids, so it's all moot for me.

[Azaron Nightblade]

ciaweth wrote...

Desperate to have kids naturally with your One True Love? Get into a relationship with an asari or a fellow human. Or, keep your alien lover and adopt, or use a surrogate, or whatever.

Or get scammed by one of the many ruthless bio engineering firms! (like the ones promising to alter Volus and Quarian DNA enough to make them able to live without use of an environmental suit).

[Fanbus]

Ok folks I could be wrong but I swear that on Illium I overheard an advertisement for sex organ modification. Trying to recall where exactly but it came on the loudspeaker advertisement things; its this deep male voice. It even said they don't have a particular sex organ type was unavailable.



Or it might have been genes, not sure.

[Azaron Nightblade]

Fanbus wrote...

Ok folks I could be wrong but I swear that on Illium I overheard an advertisement for sex organ modification. Trying to recall where exactly but it came on the loudspeaker advertisement things; its this deep male voice. It even said they don't have a particular sex organ type was unavailable.

Or it might have been genes, not sure.

Yeah, they didn't have Krogan parts IIRC.

[tmk]

Well, was it specifically interspecies organ modification?

[ciaweth]

Can anyone capture the audio or a vid of that ad? I want to hear the exact wording.

[Throw_this_away]

Duke Mathias wrote...

Does anyone know if interspecies pregnancy is possible? I know that there are a lot of interspecies relationships, but is it possible for two different species to have a child together? I want to leave the Asari out of this discussion as their children are all Asari and not a mixture of two species.

no. 

Tali gets a yeast infection... so stop thinking about it. 

[Chuvvy]

If you feel like taking a **** all over genetics sure.

[AClockworkMelon]

I have no problem with interspecies relationships in the context of ME. Living in the ME universe I'd probably just stick to human women, but hey, whatever floats your boat. That being said, excepting the Asari, I don't think these unions should produce offspring. There is less genetic difference between humans and chimps than there is between individuals of other species, for Christ's sake. To think that we'd be capable of reproducing with ME aliens is ridiculous.