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[Ramo16]

So, this is the first time i play rogue in any rpg. Finished with mage. I'm playing daggers rogue, assasin/duelist.
Level 16, stats:
Strenght: 24
Dex: 42
Cun 36
Will:20
Magic:13
Con:13

Assasins talents full, non of the duelist talents by now. Dw talents almost full. So, how do you reccomend i continue? 
Pump cunning, dex? Talents?
Using light armor. 
Party: Alistair - tank
Morrigan
Leliana- archer, or sten- two hand.
Some help for newbie please
 

[Elhanan]

You will need Lethality to use that Cunning score properly, but due to glitches, I would skip Evasion.

I highly recommend Stealth (4) and maybe Deft Hands (4) if you like scouting ahead of the party.

[Ramo16]

Is it allowed that i paste my character page address?

What's wrong with evasion? I got it already... And no stealth or deft hands at all :-)

[Elhanan]

From the DAO Wiki:
Evasion is a talent to avoid. Why? Because evasion animation: (a) takes some significant time to execute; ( plays during attack and wait phases, effectively cancelling actions assigned to a character. A 15% chance of evading while triggering evasion animation means your actions will get interrupted by physical attacks 15% of the time. Yes, you won't get hit, but you won't hit, either, and that is much worse -- the DPS trade-off is very bad.

Personally, I use it for the NPC's, but do not take it for the Warden.

Modifié par Elhanan, 16 août 2010 - 09:41 .

[Ramo16]

so dex and cun all the way? maybe some willpower, or con?

2. got it, it's great. Stun enemy, and finish it before he knows what hit him with momentum :-)

3. Have all of them.

4. leliana is the mechanic



well here it is

http://social.biowar...na_id=221815364

[ussnorway]

Skills;

I’d put one (only) point into traps so that you can use/ see them and don’t put more than one point into poisons because they will be waisted but instead assign one of your other party to this task eg. Give Zevran four points in poison and have him make all the high level gear for your character to use… same applies to traps!

[Ramo16]

well, i go for stealth now.
and poisons, i got them at tier 3...
well, i'm satisfied for 1st rogue character:-)
about evade: if i'm backstabing, then this evade thing is no problem, or?

off topic; how to do 250 damage with single strike achievement?

Modifié par Ramo16, 16 août 2010 - 11:38 .

[RobRam10]

the easiest way is too have an archer with Arrow of Slaying

[Ramo16]

any way for my character to do it?

[Elhanan]

Ramo16 wrote...

well, i go for stealth now.
and poisons, i got them at tier 3...
well, i'm satisfied for 1st rogue character:-)
about evade: if i'm backstabing, then this evade thing is no problem, or?

off topic; how to do 250 damage with single strike achievement?

Maybe....

Get one of the dragonbone daggers (has 3 rune slots), and fill it with Grandmaster elemental dmg bonus runes. and place in main hand. Using Stealth will insure that your first strike will critical, if it hits. Have your mage buff you with elemental weapon spells; two mages with different ones may be even better. and then hit the target w/first 2 Hexes to amplify any dmg. Then get behind target, and cut loose....

Never used this myself, but this is my best guess.

[Ramo16]

Well, i was thinking something like that, but till now highest damage was around 60... So i have no idea how to reach 250... Does poisons and coatings count on that?

[Haplose]

No, and neither do elemental damage additions. So the last advaice wasn't very helpfull. I don't think you can get that achievement.

Unless you pick a few Archer Talents and use Arrow of Slaying.



Or play a mage, get Mana Clash and cast it on an enemy caster. Can be done in relatively short time.

[Elhanan]

I do not know how it was done, but a Yellow skelton hit my Warden for 233 earlier tonight with a Cripple. Maybe they use a larger weapon?

As I recall, the stacked Hexes will boost either the rune, or the weapon spell bonuses, or both.

[Ramo16]

Here is an idea.

I'd like you recommend me shape my character all over again with respecialization. How would you distribute attributes, talents and skills?

I'll do it, so i'd love to hear ideas from you.

So there is no way to deal 250 damage with rogue at all, but archer?

[jsachun]

20 Strength.
36 Dex.
20 Cons + Lifegiver
20 Will
Rest in Cunning.
Lethality & Coup De Grace is a must.
Try backstabing with only a weapon on main hand, with multiple Song of courage buff on an incapicitated target with mark of death (multiple if possible).

Modifié par jsachun, 17 août 2010 - 11:55 .

[Ramo16]

What about specializations? Assasin + bard is your sugestion?
Talents? 

Modifié par Ramo16, 17 août 2010 - 12:11 .

[jsachun]

All DW even if you're just using daggers as DW mastery reduces stamina cost of all DW talents.
Coup De Grace & Lethality. The Fourth tier talents on both of these lines are not really worth getting unless you want to play tank or dead.
Spend the rest on Maxing out your specialisation, then put the remainder in either stealth or lock picking. I find neither very useful for a damage build.

Modifié par jsachun, 17 août 2010 - 12:29 .

[Ramo16]

So max assasin and bard, and rest in stealth, since leliana is archer and lockpicking? And what about long weapons, is it better to use them instead of daggers. I was reading alot, but every one has they own opinion, so, i'm in a dillema. Should i continue using daggers, or switch to swords or something?

[Last Darkness]

Im tied of this question being asked and theres at least two threads per page about this giving details.

[Ramo16]

I know, but like i said, everyone has it's own oppinion, and i would like to hear yours. I decided to respecialize my rogue like jsachun said. So cun based. And i would like recommendation for that, that's it.

[Elhanan]

I am underwhelmed over Bards & Rangers, and would select the two specs that remain.

[Haplose]

Elhanan wrote...
As I recall, the stacked Hexes will boost either the rune, or the weapon spell bonuses, or both.

Both. But neither count for the Achievement.