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[Fatal v1]

The more the merrier.

[xODD7BALLx]

This whole thread should be erased and renewed with some better information to support it, because there are too many people jumping to conclusions without doing some research or people who just have some huge personal problem with people other than themselves enjoying any experience they've had.



It's like imagine if the first person to create the wheel kept it to his or herself, wouldnt that be a sh*tty thing to do or what?



If you've enjoyed your experience with the Mass Effect universe then why not share it with others, I know when I see a kick ass movie the first thing I do is call folks and let em know they need to see it or should check it out.



Say what you want to about my train of thought but doing otherwise is just selfish.

[LCD Dave N7]

Operative84 wrote...

This whole thread should be erased and renewed with some better information to support it, because there are too many people jumping to conclusions without doing some research or people who just have some huge personal problem with people other than themselves enjoying any experience they've had.

It's like imagine if the first person to create the wheel kept it to his or herself, wouldnt that be a sh*tty thing to do or what?

If you've enjoyed your experience with the Mass Effect universe then why not share it with others, I know when I see a kick ass movie the first thing I do is call folks and let em know they need to see it or should check it out.

Say what you want to about my train of thought but doing otherwise is just selfish.

Definitely agree. I've been going on about Mass Effect for years to my PS3 mates, they'd come over and act all unimpressed - I bet they're peeing themselves right now. hahaha.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Spectre 117 wrote...

This is why the world wpuld be better if there was only one super console

One platform that is flexible, easy to design for, and already exists in tens of millions of homes?

There is one.  It's the PC.

[TheJiveDJ]

I agree with the M4 pt 2 guy.

[Sylvius the Mad]

TheAzureVanguard wrote...

I'm NOT BUYING Mass Effect 3

SCREW THIS CRAP. EA and Bioware won't be getting MY MONEY anymore.

I bought a 360 just for this game and if you're going to screw with 360 fanboys and supporters then I refuse to do business with them anymore.

This position pops up a lot whenever a title that was previously limited to some platforms becomes available on others.

Why?  ME was a 360 exclusive, and you wanted to play it.  So you bought a 360 and played ME2.  Presumably you were happy with that arrangement (given that you're still a member of the community).

Nothing about that arrangement has changed.  You still bought a 360.  You still played ME2.  You still enjoyed it.

This PS3 announcement doesn't affect you.  Your fury is demonstrably irrational.

[Lord_Valandil]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Spectre 117 wrote...

This is why the world wpuld be better if there was only one super console

One platform that is flexible, easy to design for, and already exists in tens of millions of homes?

There is one.  It's the PC.

I would agree. But one has to shell a lot of money to get a PC capable of playing games like Mass Effect 2. Mine is a damn good PC, but still, trying to play ME2 would make it explode or melt itself.

[ofish]

Given the excellent track record Bioware has, (first game of theirs I purchased was Baldurs Gate and I have been a big fan of theirs ever since) I think everybody really needs to give them the benefit of the doubt on this "bonus content" or whatever that's supposed to be.

My guess is that since the release date of the game for the PS3 will be 1 year from the original release they are just going to bundle all of the DLC into the game (like a game of the year edition, which normally come out about a year after the original game comes out).

Bioware IS NOT going to add any exclusive story sections that will affect ME3 only on the PS3, just think about it, they have to make it sound like its going to get something new they're hoping to have the release sell like its a new game and at new game price a year later...

I'm glad ME will potentially reach more people which hopefully will lead to more ME games Just my 2 cents.



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[Haventh]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

That's my main "concern": bonus content or not, the PS3 port will likely not sell all that well with the other versions costing around 10 bucks when it releases. I'm pretty certain BioShock PS3 - which is the best comparison we have - sold pretty poorly as well.

And cause many might already have on pc or xbox 360,  or simply - the port fails and won't be worth the money compared to other versions (being inferior to the other versions).

[Solaris Paradox]

The PS3 version won't necessarily force unwanted changes on Mass Effect 3, they aren't stupid. More likely all of the ME1-related things in ME2 will still be in the PS3 version, either completely unused or accessed via some cheesy question-and-answer method. And then similar content will be included in the PS3 version of ME3 that winds up either unused or based solely on import saves. Consider: the experience is always the same for anyone who plays ME2 without importing ME1, even on the PS3. That the PS3 lacks Mass Effect 1 will cause a stink, but not enough of one for BioWare to actively downgrade things to compensate. If anything, it just means there's an inferior version that long-standing fans of the series won't want--which means nothing to PS3 owners who've never played the game.



Mass Effect 3 will have to account for choices made in Mass Effect 2 regardless, and they'd have to dance around a lot of stuff if they failed to account for choices made in ME2 that directly relate back to ME1, such as becoming a Spectre again because you were nice enough to save the Council. That would cause issues.



Also, going multi-console does not equal selling your soul. And don't bring up "loyalty." Jeez. You're talking about loyalty to a console produced by a company that cared more about getting a lead on game production than actually making sure the blasted console wouldn't burn its own guts out. "Loyalty," my buttocks.

[Skilled Seeker]

I have 2 concerns here.



1. Bonus Content.This better not be exclusive to the PS3 or it will be a total slap in the face of those who bought ME2 for PC and Xbox and supported Bioware to even allow them to think of porting the game.



2. Since ME1 won't be released for PS3 as far as i can tell that better not mean ME1 choices will have little effect on ME3.



I don't mind that ME becomes available to a wider audience, as a PC gamer I loathe exclusives. But please don't betray us Bioware and consider these two points carefully.

[Solaris Paradox]

I'd also like to draw a little connection here, if I may. People have expressed concern that the multi-console thing means BioWare is moving away from imported saves, but they seem to be flirting with cross-platform imports if the information we have on Dragon Age 2 means anything--although again, I don't see anything more sophistocated than a question-and-answer or "dialogue cues" (as in: you tell Tali you gave her data on the geth, POOF, you gave her data on the geth) system coming of this, since Mass Effect 1 didn't do anything like Dragon Age's character-upload thing.

EDIT: If they were so bold as to allow players to manually take their 360/PC saves and import them into the PS3 version via USB-transfer and save-game importer, that would make my year--no, my MILLENNIUM. But I'm not holding my breath.

Modifié par Solaris Paradox, 19 août 2010 - 08:07 .

[heretica]

Lol you still going at this?

[magpie]

Personally I don't have any problem whatsoever with the game being ported to the PS3. I'm sure it'll help Bioware's bottom line, and that's what matters to all businesses. When ME3 comes out, having the game available on PC, 360 and PS3 will obviously benefit both Bioware and EA, and we'll have to take their word for it that it won't impact on the development of ME3.

As for the free DLC content, well if memory serves, Bioware has form here; when ME1 was ported to the PC, as opposed to being the 360 exclusive it was originally pushed as, PC buyers got the existing ME1 DLC as a free purchase bonus there too, despite the protests from their paying 360 customers.

What I must admit I'm concerned with is rather vague. I think the PS3 version will simply use the canon Shepard from the books. Looking at how Bioware's writing seems to be developing, this situation is perfect for them. All of Bioware's recent development statements seem to me to point towards them wanting to write a more linear type of game, cutting down on options offered. Just look at DA2 scenario. Of course this makes financial sense when you're voicing absolutely everything. Fewer paths/voices means cheaper VO.

From the days of Black Isle and Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate, through NWN, KoTOR and Jade Empire to the modern classics ME and DA:O, a Bioware publication has always been an automatic purchase for me, and until recently I didn't see that changing. It is now, not because of the porting of ME2 to the PS3 -- I have no problems with that, but rather with the homogonization of their games and gameplay and their current, rather hostile, attitude to their fan-base, which seems to be 'our way or the highway', but that's just a personal opinion.

Modifié par magpie, 19 août 2010 - 08:38 .

[uzivatel]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

TheAzureVanguard wrote...

I'm NOT BUYING Mass Effect 3

SCREW THIS CRAP. EA and Bioware won't be getting MY MONEY anymore.

I bought a 360 just for this game and if you're going to screw with 360 fanboys and supporters then I refuse to do business with them anymore.

This position pops up a lot whenever a title that was previously limited to some platforms becomes available on others.

Why?  ME was a 360 exclusive, and you wanted to play it.  So you bought a 360 and played ME2.  Presumably you were happy with that arrangement (given that you're still a member of the community).

Nothing about that arrangement has changed.  You still bought a 360.  You still played ME2.  You still enjoyed it.

This PS3 announcement doesn't affect you.  Your fury is demonstrably irrational.

Why overlook the part where BioWare posted misleading comments making their customers believe the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 (or PC version of Mass Effect 1) is not an option?

Seeing there are hours of bonus content (including new gameplay not present in his version), I would think the announcement does affect him.

magpie wrote...

As for the free DLC content, well if memory serves, Bioware has form here; when ME1 was ported to the PC, as opposed to being the 360 exclusive it was originally pushed as, PC buyers got the existing ME1 DLC as a free purchase bonus there too, despite the protests from their paying 360 customers.

I remember that, they were like "the DLC wont be included in the PC version of the game", well, it was not, they released it as a free DLC.

Come to think of it, I remember some BioWare dev posting info about the DLC going free on Xbox 360 once the free PC version is out. Could not find that post later, probably quietly deleted.

Modifié par uzivatel, 19 août 2010 - 08:56 .

[Kondorr]

I highly doubt that the import will be possible...

Most probably, we will get some quasi interactive flashback scene, were Shep remembers his crucial choices (that would substitute for the dumb questions).... So PS3 players would be able to make those ME1 choices without playing the game...



Regarding exclusive content... they announced hours of bonus content, not exclusive content... NOW I have seen this already in other games (Splinter Cell Double Agent for example), which appeared first on XBOX and later on PS3...

It almost ALWAYS are all DLC's to date on-disc, that is all... exclusive will be only the ME1-bridge...



I highly doubt that the XBOX comunity will see any negative points of this move... (remember Tomb Raider Underworld DLC's... now THAT was a slab in the face of PS3-players)...



And Bioware wants to make more money... hell... now THAT is something you can't blame them for... I want more money too... so does every one who has a job... and how do you maintain your job? You make cash for your boss/company...



Although I have been waiting for the Liara announcement, I am thankful for this one... Mass Effect 2 on HDTV... can't wait for this

[xKerberos]

Lord_Valandil wrote...
I would agree. But one has to shell a lot of money to get a PC capable of playing games like Mass Effect 2. Mine is a damn good PC, but still, trying to play ME2 would make it explode or melt itself.

Meh, I'm using a pc with parts at least 2-3 years out of date. Hell now I'm stuck with an XFX stock 9600gt while my other card flies off to Taiwan for a warranty claim and it still kicks ME2's butt on maximum with all the AA goodness. Maybe it's because I have a small monitor (Dell Ultrasharp 19") but I believe a dual core and a midrange card should be able to max this game, let alone run it.

But I'm happy for the PS3 people even though I only have a pc .

Modifié par xKerberos, 19 août 2010 - 09:03 .

[Solaris Paradox]

What I must admit I'm concerned with is rather vague. I think the PS3 version will simply use the canon Shepard from the books.

Unlikely. It would require a sizable amount of extra work to re-tool the game to force a single character, and doing so would be an obvious downgrade on a trademark aspect of a BioWare game that would go down badly both with the press and with the gaming community. Also, it's just downright easier to port things as-is. The game will be identical save for whatever technical differences the port brings about and whatever method--or lack thereof--is applied to account for the lack of ME1.

[uzivatel]

Kondorr wrote...

Regarding exclusive content... they announced hours of bonus content, not exclusive content... NOW I have seen this already in other games (Splinter Cell Double Agent for example), which appeared first on XBOX and later on PS3...
It almost ALWAYS are all DLC's to date on-disc, that is all... exclusive will be only the ME1-bridge...

Tales of Vesperia? Eternal Sonata? BioShock? all those games had PS3-only exclusive content.

I highly doubt that the XBOX comunity will see any negative points of this move... (remember Tomb Raider Underworld DLC's... now THAT was a slab in the face of PS3-players)...

Other than the bonus content, delayed game ME3 (and maybe ME2) and minimized impact of ME1 decisions.
Xbox 360 owners had to pay for the TRU content and the content was actually announced prior the release of the game.

And Bioware wants to make more money... hell... now THAT is something you can't blame them for... I want more money too... so does every one who has a job... and how do you maintain your job? You make cash for your boss/company...

Making your customers unhappy may not be the best way to make money in the future. I wont make claims like "not buying ME3", but I dont see myself buying other BioWare games.

[nightcobra]

i'm pretty sure the future ps3 customers like myself aren't unhappy about this

[digby69]

This thread has a far better balanced discussion



http://social.biowar...index/4484529/1

[uzivatel]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

i'm pretty sure the future ps3 customers like myself aren't unhappy about this

True, and you probably outweigh the unhappy PC/360 guys by large margin.

Modifié par uzivatel, 19 août 2010 - 09:25 .

[digby69]

PC users arn't unhappy about this, I'm certainly not.