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[Solaris Paradox]

oldag07 wrote...

Couldn't there be a way to export ME1 saved game files from the Xbox or the PC via a pen drive or the internet onto the PS3.  Then PS3 owners can play through ME2 with decisions made in ME1.

Vague possibility, but unlikely, and frankly, anyone who owns the first game on the 360 or PC has no reason to want the second one on the PS3.

[Lord_Valandil]

Solaris Paradox wrote...

I mean as publisher, they shoulkd have bought them though, I dont like what EA is doing.

Frankly, neither EA nor Microsoft are anywhere near my goodbooks. I'd sooner say "SEGA should have bought BioWare." And that's not something I'm inclined to say. That said, at least SEGA hasn't fed me a console that melts its own entrails and an operating system that causes me headaches on a daily basis. And EA, I just don't really like, but at least they aren't mindlessly loyal to that other company I don't like.

Multi-console has its drawbacks, but whining so hard about a series going multiconsole as if it were treason or something--that's just selfish.

SEGA sucks.
Look what they've done with the Aliens vs. Predator game. It's matchmaking system is broken and they don't give a f*** about their costumers. They only released patches for the PC and gave the finger to the consoles.
So yeah, I'd rather have EA or Microsoft than SEGA.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 20 août 2010 - 03:51 .

[DaShadyOne]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Solaris Paradox wrote...

I mean as publisher, they shoulkd have bought them though, I dont like what EA is doing.

Frankly, neither EA nor Microsoft are anywhere near my goodbooks. I'd sooner say "SEGA should have bought BioWare." And that's not something I'm inclined to say. That said, at least SEGA hasn't fed me a console that melts its own entrails and an operating system that causes me headaches on a daily basis. And EA, I just don't really like, but at least they aren't mindlessly loyal to that other company I don't like.

Multi-console has its drawbacks, but whining so hard about a series going multiconsole as if it were treason or something--that's just selfish.

SEGA sucks.
Look what they've did with the Aliens vs. Predator game. It's matchmaking system is broken and they don't give a f*** about their costumers. They only released patches for the PC and gave the finger to the consoles.
So yeah, I'd rather have EA or Microsoft than SEGA.

lol dont forget what they did to sonic and super hero games haha

[Lord_Valandil]

Solaris Paradox wrote...
a console that melts its own entrails

BTW.
My 360 is three years old and has never "melted its own entrails".

[Comrade Bork]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Solaris Paradox wrote...
a console that melts its own entrails

BTW.
My 360 is three years old and has never "melted its own entrails".

I'm in the same boat, and apparently we're lucky.

[Solaris Paradox]

SEGA's good when they're not actually making the game themselves. They publish some good stuff. They just don't design much themselves that's worth talking about, and of course, there's the ever-present embarrassment that is the modern-day Sonic series. (Please don't screw Sonic Colors and Sonic 4 up, SEGA... I'm begging you, PLEASE.)

I enjoy more SEGA-published games than EA-published games, therefore I consider SEGA the lesser of two evils.

EDIT: Well, mine did. Consider yourselves lucky indeed.

Modifié par Solaris Paradox, 20 août 2010 - 03:59 .

[Rick The Stick]

Bioware sells ME2 on PS3 and tries to make more money





Plus 5 Renegade

[LJScribes]

oldag07 wrote...

Couldn't there be a way to export ME1 saved game files from the Xbox or the PC via a pen drive or the internet onto the PS3.  Then PS3 owners can play through ME2 with decisions made in ME1.

I believe I saw somewhere around the internet a guide on how to import your ME1 PC save to your 360.  I imagine someone will come up with a way of doing it for the PS3 as well.

[Klace]

I have mixed feelings about this...
I'm gonna buy it anyway though, I'm a corporate tool...

Modifié par Klace, 20 août 2010 - 04:24 .

[Godlywith2blades]

To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be mad if Bioware decided to do this when they were independent. The reason I say this is because Bioware would do it for everyone to enjoy the game; but now since they got that EA mindset, they're not really doing it for the fans, they're doing it for the money. Now, I still think they're great developers, they just need to get that Bioware Mindset back and start doing things the way they use to.

[rogershoe]

Solaris Paradox wrote...

I mean as publisher, they shoulkd have bought them though, I dont like what EA is doing.

Frankly, neither EA nor Microsoft are anywhere near my goodbooks. I'd sooner say "SEGA should have bought BioWare." And that's not something I'm inclined to say. That said, at least SEGA hasn't fed me a console that melts its own entrails and an operating system that causes me headaches on a daily basis. And EA, I just don't really like, but at least they aren't mindlessly loyal to that other company I don't like.

Multi-console has its drawbacks, but whining so hard about a series going multiconsole as if it were treason or something--that's just selfish.

So true. I just can't believe all the people that are chastizing Bioware for doing what they should have done in the first place: announcing Mass Effect 2 as a multiformat game (but logistics on what to do about ME1 and an advertisement deal prevented that until this time). At this point in time, Mass Effect 3 looks to be multiformat from the get go which really means one thing: it will get a much larger budget! All this talk about delaying the release of ME3 because of this announcement need to get some facts straight. ME3 hasn't been announced yet. Game developers DO hire more people and expand if the project requires it. ME3 will again utilize UE3 which at this point in time doesn't give many large development teams problems on multiformat games (Batman Arkham Asylum and the new Medal of Honor reboot comes to mind).

Additionally, I can't believe how concerned some PC and 360 owners are about PS3 owners missing out on ME1 and how their experience with ME2 will be diminished without it! That is so kind of them!

Godlywith2blades wrote...

To tell you the truth, I
wouldn't be mad if Bioware decided to do this when they were
independent. The reason I say this is because Bioware would do it for
everyone to enjoy the game; but now since they got that EA mindset,
they're not really doing it for the fans, they're doing it for the
money. Now, I still think they're great developers, they just need to
get that Bioware Mindset back and start doing things the way they use
to.

I'm sorry? Expanding a game's release to fans who only own a PS3 is Bioware not doing it for fans? Seriously, what is wrong with expanding fanbase while turning over some profit. I think you would still be mad if Bioware did it when independent.

Modifié par rogershoe, 20 août 2010 - 04:44 .

[Lord_Valandil]

rogershoe wrote...
Additionally, I can't believe how concerned some PC and 360 owners are about PS3 owners missing out on ME1 and how their experience with ME2 will be diminished without it! That is so kind of them!

I
say to you today, my friends, that in spite of the
difficulties and frustrations of the moment, I still
have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the
American dream.
I
have a dream that one day all nations will rise up and
live out the true meaning of its gaming: "We hold
these truths to be self-evident: that all gamers are
created equal."
I
have a dream that one day on the Bioware Forums
the sons of Xbox 360 owners and the sons of PS3 owners will be able to sit down together at a table
of brotherhood.
I
have a dream that one day even the fanboys,
a lost cause, will be transformed into an oasis of tolerance.
I
have a dream that my four children will one day live in
a community where they will not be judged by the brand of their consoles but by the content of their heart.
I
have a dream today.


A dream nonetheless...

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 20 août 2010 - 04:57 .

[SHAKA1988]

I just really hope that PS3 owners do Bioware good and actually go out and purchase this game. ME1 was a sleeper hit that once people started talking about, others had to check it out. The majority of people that will pick up ME2, I'm assuming, will be unfamiliar with the franchise and it's amazing story, setting and characters. A problem could come if Bioware has a bunch of copies of this game produced and the sales just don't match expectations. Then there could be budget cuts on ME3 that some more than others will notice.



There was some talk about a multiplayer system being in the works, and while some might not find this addition to be in the ME trilogy's best interest, I for one would love the chance to test my skills against my friends or kill Geth and stop the Reapers with a buddy in co-op. If this feature gets cut due to lackluster sales of a PS3 port I'm gonna be p*ssed.



Please make this port worth Biowares time and dime PS3 owners!!!!!

[Godlywith2blades]

Thats the problem Rogershoe, Its mostly about the profit. True theres nothing wrong in getting profit off of something that you worked hard for, but only if it was for everyone to enjoy the game not for just simple greed. EA has always been known for that.

Modifié par Godlywith2blades, 20 août 2010 - 05:03 .

[KingRanger]

Comrade Bork wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Solaris Paradox wrote...
a console that melts its own entrails

BTW.
My 360 is three years old and has never "melted its own entrails".

I'm in the same boat, and apparently we're lucky.

It's not luck. Yeah there are RROD issues that's true, but some people that **** and moan about "my 77th 360 I went through" blah blah .. Usually are idiots that play their consoles on the floor or just don't take care of their ****.

[Lord_Valandil]

KingRanger wrote...

Comrade Bork wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Solaris Paradox wrote...
a console that melts its own entrails

BTW.
My 360 is three years old and has never "melted its own entrails".

I'm in the same boat, and apparently we're lucky.

It's not luck. Yeah there are RROD issues that's true, but some people that **** and moan about "my 77th 360 I went through" blah blah .. Usually are idiots that play their consoles on the floor or just don't take care of their ****.

Yeah, I agree.
When I see people moaning about "Aww no, my 100th 360 has just died on me, what a **** console, my PS3 is better", I just roll my eyes. Certainly, there are RROD problems, but most of the people (not all people) who complain are either idiots or trolls.

[Solaris Paradox]

EDIT: The Red Ring of Death itself is an annoyance. The real kicker is that Microsoft got away with it. They rushed out their console to beat Sony out the gate, and as a result their console came out faulty and they've spent years trying to clean the urine off the walls. But they still got away with it. Their bid to get a lead on game production paid off and between that and Sony's price issues, they pulled ahead and stayed ahead for the longest time.

Hardware-wise, I definitely prefer the PS3. As for the 360, I go where the games are. But between Windows Vista being a pain in my arse and my 360 konking out on me last week, my feelings toward Microsoft aren't exactly warm and fuzzy, and even before my own console died, I've viewed Microsoft's willingness to allow a defective console to hit retail shelves for the sake of profit with a mix of cynical congratulations and bitterness ever since I learned about it. The Red Ring of Death is the stuff mass recalls are made of, for pity's sake. If you're going to criticize EA for doing things for the sake of profit, do NOT pretend the Red Ring of Death is not a problem worthy of ridicule.

EDIT 2: Also, it's only happened to me once.

Godlywith2blades wrote...

Thats the problem Rogershoe, Its mostly about the profit. True theres nothing wrong in getting profit off of something that you worked hard for, but only if it was for everyone to enjoy the game not for just simple greed. EA has always been known for that.

...One reason they're not in my goodbooks, actually. But Mass Effect 2 is already whole and fine, so the worst the PS3 version can accomplish is to be a bad port and/or handle the relationship to Mass Effect 1/3 poorly. The conspiracy theories about how going multiconsole will effect Mass Effect 3 are really over-the-top. Hell, there isn't even anything about the PS3 as a system that would cause any kind of downgrade--again, the worst that could happen is a bad port. I mean, think about it. At least when the FF fanboys started whining about FF13 going multiplat, they had that disc format complaint to fall back on. (And some sign that it actually did effect the game when the final product came out, although that's hardly the main reason the game has problems.) The PS3's the upgrade in the disc format department, though. In terms of space concerns, the game appearing on that console raises no questions as to any backlash that might be felt across other platforms.

The only definite question is whether the multiconsole porting job will be done correctly without compromising the development cycle. It may not. Actually, my prediction is that a few subplots and sidequests get cut from the retail release and return in DLC form.

And yes, going multiplat means more time has to go into optimizing for two platforms, but at the same time, it means more money comes back to the company, so they can put that extra push in to make it work. Mass Effect 3 is already a surefire sell; they won't cut corners on the budget.

On the subject of the EA-BioWare mindset relationship... why am I getting "Wade and Herren" flashbacks from Dragon Age?

Modifié par Solaris Paradox, 20 août 2010 - 05:34 .

[RedHawk89]

PS3 owners are in for a real treat with ME2, but it's a shame that they won't be able to control the events that had occured in ME1. Maybe Bioware will add this video to the PS3 version before the game starts?

Either way, it's a shame. But if I remember correctly, ME1 was before EA was involved, and it was microsoft who published it. Thus, I doubt they'd give it to Sony's console. Bummer. :/

[emtron]

I,m just amazed that gamers don,t realize that making games is a job and also a business. And guess what children business's like to make money the term sellout is ridiculous its simple expand your market and user base exclusivity is quickly becoming a thing of the past If people stop buying games based on console allegiance I say great weed out the morons.

[emtron]

Solaris Paradox wrote...

I mean as publisher, they shoulkd have bought them though, I dont like what EA is doing.

Frankly, neither EA nor Microsoft are anywhere near my goodbooks.

EA being the lesser of two evils I take EA over Activision any day.

[Lord_Valandil]

I have to agree with the point that Microsoft released a flawed console.
It had a problem, they knew it, and still, in the urge to release it before Sony, sold it to the public, instead of taking some time to solve the RROD issue.
I also don't like to pay for Xbox Live Gold. And, most of all, I really hate when people try to downgrade your "stars" in the gamertag just because you won against them on a game.
I know that Microsoft is full of greedy fat fish, not angels and saints, but still, I prefer them to Sony.
Why?
It's not a big deal, it depends on the point of view of each person. I don't like Sony's arrogant and childish attitude, and their sickening habit of saying each freaking week, "Hey MS, my games have better score at Metacritic, hey MS my exclusives got 10 at IGN, hey MS, my d**k is bigger than yours". They also loved to criticize the Wii, so, Sony, what's up with Move? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, it has been in development for years and years.
And I could list many other things...but I don't want to start a witchhunt and this, certainly, is not the place.
I'm not against PS3, nor its consumers. In fact, if I were one of them, I would be pretty embarrassed at Sony's attitude.
Hardware wise, the PS3 is a great machine, and again (yes, again), I'm glad that ME2 is going to be enjoyed by many other gamers who couldn't play it before.
I have nothing against you, PS3 owner, and nothing against your system or games, only against Sony and its arrogant crap. So don't start to call me fanboy, Xbox zombie and things...

[Solaris Paradox]

Sony's "attitude" is the same as Pepsi's attitude in regards to Coca-Cola. When you're the competition rather than the reigning champion, it's standard marketing to compare yourself in a favorable light to said champion at every opportunity. It's not pompous, egotistical, or even unexpected. That's the way it usually goes: the competitor takes every opportunity to say "We're better than they are," while the "champion" goes out of their way to avoid directly comparing themselves to the competition so as not to draw attention to them. That's why Coke pops up in Pepsi commercials but you don't usually see Pepsi in a Coke commercial. It's not embarrassing or worth criticizing, it's just business being business.

[uzivatel]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

SEGA sucks.
Look what they've done with the Aliens vs. Predator game. It's matchmaking system is broken and they don't give a f*** about their costumers. They only released patches for the PC and gave the finger to the consoles.
So yeah, I'd rather have EA or Microsoft than SEGA.

What they did with the Aliens RPG is even worse.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

I wonder...if the ps3 is going to get a "prologue" segment for new games...this is what I'm thinking they're doing anyways...if they add a prologue onto the start of the game if the 360 and pc versions will get that stuff patched in.



beyond that I wonder if lair of the shadowbroker is the end of the "current" style of dlc. (excluding the 3 missing helmets and missing terminus gear, and any other equipment and squad costumes we get) That the ps3 version will include all currently existing dlc content....(counting lair of the shadow broker)....I wonder if Lair will be the end of the currently existing style of DLC, and that from here on in we'll be getting a "mass effect 2.5" style bridging arc for our dlc moving forward.





I'm really betting it will be a prologue addon with recreations of the pivotal moments of ME1 but done in a much more direct fashion, maybe missing certain dialogue options, "city" areas, "vehicle segments", like just Eden Prime, The Wards, Therum, Virmire, and Illos. (Even then therum could probably just be a cutscene) ME1 remake would be TEH ****IN SHEET though :E

[Solaris Paradox]

Most likely a cheesy flashback scene with points at which you select one option or another. Probably a point at which you decide whether you're a Paragon, Renegade, or something in-between, which determines some of the smaller choices. I'm having trouble figuring a way that every little thing can be accounted for, but they'll probably at least let the player choose whether the Council was saved, Ashley or Kaiden died, and Wrex survived. Whatever they do, it has to be unobtrusive enough that players aren't kept from Mass Effect 2. I very much doubt anything as intrusive as an actual playable segment will be inserted.

EDIT: A simpler possibility is that character creation will have some kind of "psyche test" element included where you answer a set of questions amounting to "In this situation, what would you do?" and the answers determine how ME1's events transpired.

Modifié par Solaris Paradox, 20 août 2010 - 08:32 .