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[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I'm over it, if it's that great and wonderful I'm not going to complain or whine about exclusive or improved content. I'll just buy the system and the game again.

[Kaiser Shepard]

And so we have reached page 117... *epic music starts playing*

Stand firm, my brothers!

[obie191970]

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

Reading comprehension -1

[Nicklesbe]

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

That's not true at all. if you take the initial cost of a ps3 and gaming rig with just one game. and then you take an xbox and just one game and compare the cost of both side by side after 2 years the cost of xbox will double that of the ps3 and gaming rig combined. that is taking in account replacment xbox's after the first one breaks and total cost of monthly online play and inevitable forced dlc you'll have to purchase.

Modifié par Nicklesbe, 20 août 2010 - 04:41 .

[DaShadyOne]

Nicklesbe wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

That's not true at all. if you take the initial cost of a ps3 and gaming rig with just one game. and then you take an xbox and just one game and compare the cost of both side by side after 2 years the cost of xbox will double that of the ps3 and gaming rig combined. that is taking in account replacment xbox's after the first one breaks and total cost of montly online play and inevitable forced dlc you'll have to purchase.

i still have my 1st xbox i dont pay for online (i got ps3 for that) and forced dlc? i belive psn and pc also has dlc

but i guess you would be right in since not all are so lucky

Modifié par DaShadyOne, 20 août 2010 - 04:44 .

[DaShadyOne]

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

Reading comprehension -1

douchebag lvl max

[obie191970]

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

Reading comprehension -1

douchebag lvl max

Stay in school.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

I love you guys.

[Aesthioseae]

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

Reading comprehension -1

douchebag lvl max

You've reached it already? Gosh, they get younger every year.

Modifié par Aesthioseae, 20 août 2010 - 04:53 .

[Renegade Z]

Nicklesbe wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep. Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD. Its also why you pay obscenely for online play. Look at everything Microsoft has done to its users since Xbox's release, they have been betraying you since day one. You've just got batterd wife syndrome and refuse to see it because you think for some reason they hit you because they love you.

Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content.

I completely disagree with everything in this paragraph and I'm going to tell you why.

"Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep."

Excuse me, but I digress. If they "hate" us and view us as profit making sheep then why did the PS3 upon launch cost two times more than a standard 360 at it's time of launch? They've just now lowered their prices to our beginning base price to help increase sales. Please, do not say that the 360 had been out longer because the standard edition 360 at the time only costed $299.99 while the standard PS3 during it's launch period was more along the lines of $599.99. Are you sure that you're assessment about Microsort viewing it's users as cattle is correct? Despite the fact that you do not have to pay for PSN I'd hardly consider it fun for a few reasons. It's highly faulty and unreliable due to the PSN error login that took place early this year, also it has no cross-game chat so that means everyone in your party absolutely has to be playing the same game just to chat. Another thing, the pricing of the accessories are incredibly high even today. Please tell me why the PS3 wired headset is $14.99 at gamestop and the bluetooth headset is is $49.99? At least the 360 headsets come standard with the 360 console. While we may not have a bluetooth the 360 Headset Earforce XLC  is just as adequate and it costs about ten dollars less. Given the fact that it'd be necessary to replace the standard headset that you get for free with the console. I can get a Xbox 360 4GB Console for about 200 dollars now. Even less if I use my gamestop discount. I fail to see how Microsoft is bleeding so much money out of us when you're paying the dividend for your console and accessories.

"Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD."

Okay, this is merely exaggeration. Simply because while there may have been a few errors at the beginning of 360's launch period they eventually did offer free support with your RROD and any other problems that you may have had upon the perchase of your 360 despite warrenty time. I got my 360 roughly a year after it's release and I just recently got the RROD two Decembers ago and I've only had my games crash only a hand full of times. I'm able to leave my console on for days on end with it melting out or scratching my disks. So I can hardly see those minimal problems as anything of impending importance. I do not flip over HD graphics because they are
unnecessary unless you have a Plasma or a HD TV (Which I and plenty of other people do not have). So the graphics on the 360 are adequate enough for me not to complain.

"Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content."

Bioware is making the jump to the PS3 userbase because they're sales are lower than the game's actual reputation. I wouldn't exactly say that Microsoft is abusing them at all since it's a known fact that they've been supporting them since Kotor and yet Kotor didn't go to the PS2 at all despite it legendary reputation and popularity. It's all about the sales to Bioware, which makes it all about the money and they could care less about the fans being upset that the PS3 users getting bonus content that they probably won't even bother to release on the 360. They didn't say an hour or a specific amount of minutes of bonus content. Let me rehash they said HOURS, and that's plural for more than one. So I'm estimating that whatever PS3 is getting exclusive that's something the 360 users are gonna wanna have minus the ME1 flashback allowing you to make your decisions.

[Nicklesbe]

True but many games on ps3 and PC don't restrict online play by not having a certain dlc content. take halo for example you can't play most of the online options without the content. However in many ps3 and PC games purchased content doesn't keep you from playing games with people who happen to have purchased content, they just keep you from using those items/having those skins. So no real forced dlc.

[DaShadyOne]

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

Reading comprehension -1

douchebag lvl max

Stay in school.

so just because i dont wanna be all educated on a video game forum
you think im retarted?? hmmmmmm

whatever dude let me not get all worked up over it ill be the bigger man
i apologize for calling you a douche

Modifié par DaShadyOne, 20 août 2010 - 04:59 .

[Renegade Z]

Nicklesbe wrote...

True but many games on ps3 and PC don't restrict online play by not having a certain dlc content. take halo for example you can't play most of the online options without the content. However in many ps3 and PC games purchased content doesn't keep you from playing games with people who happen to have purchased content, they just keep you from using those items/having those skins. So no real forced dlc.

That's irrelevent as ME2 doesn't even have an interactive online co-op mode. So I seriously doubt the content will effect whom is able to play and whom is not. So as for talking with other people playing ME2 I'd assume it'd be possible regardless of what content they had. It hasn't been announced what the DLC are going to be for the PS3 so we can only really speculate at this point.

[Aesthioseae]

Renegade Z wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep. Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD. Its also why you pay obscenely for online play. Look at everything Microsoft has done to its users since Xbox's release, they have been betraying you since day one. You've just got batterd wife syndrome and refuse to see it because you think for some reason they hit you because they love you.

Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content.

I completely disagree with everything in this paragraph and I'm going to tell you why.

"Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep."

Excuse me, but I digress. If they "hate" us and view us as profit making sheep then why did the PS3 upon launch cost two times more than a standard 360 at it's time of launch? They've just now lowered their prices to our beginning base price to help increase sales. Please, do not say that the 360 had been out longer because the standard edition 360 at the time only costed $299.99 while the standard PS3 during it's launch period was more along the lines of $599.99. Are you sure that you're assessment about Microsort viewing it's users as cattle is correct? Despite the fact that you do not have to pay for PSN I'd hardly consider it fun for a few reasons. It's highly faulty and unreliable due to the PSN error login that took place early this year, also it has no cross-game chat so that means everyone in your party absolutely has to be playing the same game just to chat. Another thing, the pricing of the accessories are incredibly high even today. Please tell me why the PS3 wired headset is $14.99 at gamestop and the bluetooth headset is is $49.99? At least the 360 headsets come standard with the 360 console. While we may not have a bluetooth the 360 Headset Earforce XLC  is just as adequate and it costs about ten dollars less. Given the fact that it'd be necessary to replace the standard headset that you get for free with the console. I can get a Xbox 360 4GB Console for about 200 dollars now. Even less if I use my gamestop discount. I fail to see how Microsoft is bleeding so much money out of us when you're paying the dividend for your console and accessories.

"Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD."

Okay, this is merely exaggeration. Simply because while there may have been a few errors at the beginning of 360's launch period they eventually did offer free support with your RROD and any other problems that you may have had upon the perchase of your 360 despite warrenty time. I got my 360 roughly a year after it's release and I just recently got the RROD two Decembers ago and I've only had my games crash only a hand full of times. I'm able to leave my console on for days on end with it melting out or scratching my disks. So I can hardly see those minimal problems as anything of impending importance. I do not flip over HD graphics because they are
unnecessary unless you have a Plasma or a HD TV (Which I and plenty of other people do not have). So the graphics on the 360 are adequate enough for me not to complain.

"Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content."

Bioware is making the jump to the PS3 userbase because they're sales are lower than the game's actual reputation. I wouldn't exactly say that Microsoft is abusing them at all since it's a known fact that they've been supporting them since Kotor and yet Kotor didn't go to the PS2 at all despite it legendary reputation and popularity. It's all about the sales to Bioware, which makes it all about the money and they could care less about the fans being upset that the PS3 users getting bonus content that they probably won't even bother to release on the 360. They didn't say an hour or a specific amount of minutes of bonus content. Let me rehash they said HOURS, and that's plural for more than one. So I'm estimating that whatever PS3 is getting exclusive that's something the 360 users are gonna wanna have minus the ME1 flashback allowing you to make your decisions.

Let me be perfectly clear when I say that I see what you are saying, but you didn't really refute what the post you were responding to was saying.

As a lot of what he said was true. And the pricing thing for the PS3... well it cost more to make than it was worth, and that still hasn't changed.

[obie191970]

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

And what of Bioware loyal fans on the PS3 who don't own a 360 and no longer have a gaming rig?

if they could afford a gaming rig and a ps3 they can afford a xbox they just chose not to buy one thats their problem

Reading comprehension -1

douchebag lvl max

Stay in school.

so just because i dont wanna be all educated on a video game forum
you think im retarted?? hmmmmmm

whatever dude let me not get all worked up over it ill be the bigger man
i apologize for calling you a douche

No problem.  I gave you a hard time because you obviously did not read my post prior to responding to it.

[Nicklesbe]

Renegade Z wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep. Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD. Its also why you pay obscenely for online play. Look at everything Microsoft has done to its users since Xbox's release, they have been betraying you since day one. You've just got batterd wife syndrome and refuse to see it because you think for some reason they hit you because they love you.

Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content.

I completely disagree with everything in this paragraph and I'm going to tell you why.

"Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep."

Excuse me, but I digress. If they "hate" us and view us as profit making sheep then why did the PS3 upon launch cost two times more than a standard 360 at it's time of launch? They've just now lowered their prices to our beginning base price to help increase sales. Please, do not say that the 360 had been out longer because the standard edition 360 at the time only costed $299.99 while the standard PS3 during it's launch period was more along the lines of $599.99. Are you sure that you're assessment about Microsort viewing it's users as cattle is correct? Despite the fact that you do not have to pay for PSN I'd hardly consider it fun for a few reasons. It's highly faulty and unreliable due to the PSN error login that took place early this year, also it has no cross-game chat so that means everyone in your party absolutely has to be playing the same game just to chat. Another thing, the pricing of the accessories are incredibly high even today. Please tell me why the PS3 wired headset is $14.99 at gamestop and the bluetooth headset is is $49.99? At least the 360 headsets come standard with the 360 console. While we may not have a bluetooth the 360 Headset Earforce XLC  is just as adequate and it costs about ten dollars less. Given the fact that it'd be necessary to replace the standard headset that you get for free with the console. I can get a Xbox 360 4GB Console for about 200 dollars now. Even less if I use my gamestop discount. I fail to see how Microsoft is bleeding so much money out of us when you're paying the dividend for your console and accessories.

"Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD."

Okay, this is merely exaggeration. Simply because while there may have been a few errors at the beginning of 360's launch period they eventually did offer free support with your RROD and any other problems that you may have had upon the perchase of your 360 despite warrenty time. I got my 360 roughly a year after it's release and I just recently got the RROD two Decembers ago and I've only had my games crash only a hand full of times. I'm able to leave my console on for days on end with it melting out or scratching my disks. So I can hardly see those minimal problems as anything of impending importance. I do not flip over HD graphics because they are
unnecessary unless you have a Plasma or a HD TV (Which I and plenty of other people do not have). So the graphics on the 360 are adequate enough for me not to complain.

"Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content."

Bioware is making the jump to the PS3 userbase because they're sales are lower than the game's actual reputation. I wouldn't exactly say that Microsoft is abusing them at all since it's a known fact that they've been supporting them since Kotor and yet Kotor didn't go to the PS2 at all despite it legendary reputation and popularity. It's all about the sales to Bioware, which makes it all about the money and they could care less about the fans being upset that the PS3 users getting bonus content that they probably won't even bother to release on the 360. They didn't say an hour or a specific amount of minutes of bonus content. Let me rehash they said HOURS, and that's plural for more than one. So I'm estimating that whatever PS3 is getting exclusive that's something the 360 users are gonna wanna have minus the ME1 flashback allowing you to make your decisions.

You should check you facts buddy. The first released Ps3 which was an 80 gig cost 499 not 599 which was exactly the same price as xbox 360 at the time. They were the same price at release so don't try to pull that BS. They didn't raise it to 599 untill months later for the 120 gig. As for the headsets ps3 is compatable with any blue tooth headset and their are many out there that are under 15 bucks. Also what are you talking about? there was no headset standard in either xbox 360 or xbox 360 elites releases. Sure they have bundles now but guess what they also have bunbles for ps3 for relativly the same price if not cheaper than xbox 360. and you also have no idea what your talking about. There is no login error anymore and there is cross game chat. and ooh 200 bucks for a 4gb xbox do you realize for litrally the same price you could get a used 80 gb ps3? hrm 4gb vs 80 I wonder which one is better. As far as kotor goes it sucked balls onconsole and was only ever good on PC so that doesn't really count for ****. As for the 83% and 33% those are not exaggerations those are numbers given by EB games after a study they did in canada. So please check your facts buddy.

[obie191970]

Aesthioseae wrote...
And the pricing thing for the PS3... well it cost more to make than it was worth, and that still hasn't changed.

Though this isn't the place for it - That's debatable to say the least..

[NOSAR]

Aradace wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Alistair4Ever wrote...

i love mass effect. ive played 1 and 2 on pc cuz 360 is a crap console, but my pc has no graphics capability so this is my dream come true.

Right....Xbox is the crap console....Uh-huh...Ok....Let me draw your attention to the class action lawsuit currently in progress against Square/Enix and Sony due to their PS3 copies of Final Fantasy XIII actually BREAKING consoles.  Where Sony actually commented on how they know that there are certain "technical issues" with the PS3 causing this problem.  The funny part about this lawsuit though is that Sony is pointing the finger at Square and Square is pointing the finger at Sony (Deja Vu anyone ala BP? lol). 

Edit: I should also add that I own both cosoles and love my PS3 but at the same time, Sony has been wracked with "issues" of late.  And also add that my Xbox runs 10 times cooler (temp wise) than my PS3 even on scortching hot days.  So where as the PS3 MAY be better in some regards "graphically"....It's inferior in terms of it's "life span" and "Baggage" associated with the console.

haven't had any problems with mine, or with my copy of ff13

You're very lucky then lol....There are literally thousands of people with the PS3 version where this has happened.  Given, out of the millions of copies that have sold, the "statistics" are still low but high enough for there to be a class action lawsuit lol.....

PS3 HATER

[uzivatel]

Nicklesbe wrote...

Well ya didn't look hard enough lmao heres an example on page 2 http://www.xbox.com/...x360theguts.htm on xbox's own website that says the 360 produces 200+ watts, on their own home page. Keep looking tho You'll find more.

Sure, the older consoles have even 203W written on the back, but I was more asking about some actual test results since you disagree with most of those 180W tests.
Do you think Sony was sending those 200W+ units to the press on purpose as well? 

[Nicklesbe]

Also Ive had a ps3 since launch and I haven't had a single game crash on me. Sure they had some kinks in online but those are all worked out now so you can't scrutinize them for that because since launch they've actually taken steps to improve gamers online experience unlike xbox.

[DaShadyOne]

Nicklesbe wrote...

Renegade Z wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep. Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD. Its also why you pay obscenely for online play. Look at everything Microsoft has done to its users since Xbox's release, they have been betraying you since day one. You've just got batterd wife syndrome and refuse to see it because you think for some reason they hit you because they love you.

Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content.

I completely disagree with everything in this paragraph and I'm going to tell you why.

"Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep."

Excuse me, but I digress. If they "hate" us and view us as profit making sheep then why did the PS3 upon launch cost two times more than a standard 360 at it's time of launch? They've just now lowered their prices to our beginning base price to help increase sales. Please, do not say that the 360 had been out longer because the standard edition 360 at the time only costed $299.99 while the standard PS3 during it's launch period was more along the lines of $599.99. Are you sure that you're assessment about Microsort viewing it's users as cattle is correct? Despite the fact that you do not have to pay for PSN I'd hardly consider it fun for a few reasons. It's highly faulty and unreliable due to the PSN error login that took place early this year, also it has no cross-game chat so that means everyone in your party absolutely has to be playing the same game just to chat. Another thing, the pricing of the accessories are incredibly high even today. Please tell me why the PS3 wired headset is $14.99 at gamestop and the bluetooth headset is is $49.99? At least the 360 headsets come standard with the 360 console. While we may not have a bluetooth the 360 Headset Earforce XLC  is just as adequate and it costs about ten dollars less. Given the fact that it'd be necessary to replace the standard headset that you get for free with the console. I can get a Xbox 360 4GB Console for about 200 dollars now. Even less if I use my gamestop discount. I fail to see how Microsoft is bleeding so much money out of us when you're paying the dividend for your console and accessories.

"Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD."

Okay, this is merely exaggeration. Simply because while there may have been a few errors at the beginning of 360's launch period they eventually did offer free support with your RROD and any other problems that you may have had upon the perchase of your 360 despite warrenty time. I got my 360 roughly a year after it's release and I just recently got the RROD two Decembers ago and I've only had my games crash only a hand full of times. I'm able to leave my console on for days on end with it melting out or scratching my disks. So I can hardly see those minimal problems as anything of impending importance. I do not flip over HD graphics because they are
unnecessary unless you have a Plasma or a HD TV (Which I and plenty of other people do not have). So the graphics on the 360 are adequate enough for me not to complain.

"Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content."

Bioware is making the jump to the PS3 userbase because they're sales are lower than the game's actual reputation. I wouldn't exactly say that Microsoft is abusing them at all since it's a known fact that they've been supporting them since Kotor and yet Kotor didn't go to the PS2 at all despite it legendary reputation and popularity. It's all about the sales to Bioware, which makes it all about the money and they could care less about the fans being upset that the PS3 users getting bonus content that they probably won't even bother to release on the 360. They didn't say an hour or a specific amount of minutes of bonus content. Let me rehash they said HOURS, and that's plural for more than one. So I'm estimating that whatever PS3 is getting exclusive that's something the 360 users are gonna wanna have minus the ME1 flashback allowing you to make your decisions.

You should check you facts buddy. The first released Ps3 which was an 80 gig cost 499 not 599 which was exactly the same price as xbox 360 at the time. They were the same price at release so don't try to pull that BS. They didn't raise it to 599 untill months later for the 120 gig. As for the headsets ps3 is compatable with any blue tooth headset and their are many out there that are under 15 bucks. Also what are you talking about? there was no headset standard in either xbox 360 or xbox 360 elites releases. Sure they have bundles now but guess what they also have bunbles for ps3 for relativly the same price if not cheaper than xbox 360. and you also have no idea what your talking about. There is no login error anymore and there is cross game chat. and ooh 200 bucks for a 4gb xbox do you realize for litrally the same price you could get a used 80 gb ps3? hrm 4gb vs 80 I wonder which one is better. As far as kotor goes it sucked balls onconsole and was only ever good on PC so that doesn't really count for ****. As for the 83% and 33% those are not exaggerations those are numbers given by EB games after a study they did in canada. So please check your facts buddy.

i got my xbox at launch i got a headset with it?

and you can cross game chat on ps3? how im tired of writing messages to my friends playing other games.

[DaShadyOne]

damn you guys do realize we have a console war going on not on a OMG MY GAME IS BETTER WE Are 1337

but on a technical and educated lvl hahaha thats kinda funny guess we all have our ways of fighting huh

Modifié par DaShadyOne, 20 août 2010 - 05:14 .

[Nicklesbe]

DaShadyOne wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Renegade Z wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep. Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD. Its also why you pay obscenely for online play. Look at everything Microsoft has done to its users since Xbox's release, they have been betraying you since day one. You've just got batterd wife syndrome and refuse to see it because you think for some reason they hit you because they love you.

Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content.

I completely disagree with everything in this paragraph and I'm going to tell you why.

"Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep."

Excuse me, but I digress. If they "hate" us and view us as profit making sheep then why did the PS3 upon launch cost two times more than a standard 360 at it's time of launch? They've just now lowered their prices to our beginning base price to help increase sales. Please, do not say that the 360 had been out longer because the standard edition 360 at the time only costed $299.99 while the standard PS3 during it's launch period was more along the lines of $599.99. Are you sure that you're assessment about Microsort viewing it's users as cattle is correct? Despite the fact that you do not have to pay for PSN I'd hardly consider it fun for a few reasons. It's highly faulty and unreliable due to the PSN error login that took place early this year, also it has no cross-game chat so that means everyone in your party absolutely has to be playing the same game just to chat. Another thing, the pricing of the accessories are incredibly high even today. Please tell me why the PS3 wired headset is $14.99 at gamestop and the bluetooth headset is is $49.99? At least the 360 headsets come standard with the 360 console. While we may not have a bluetooth the 360 Headset Earforce XLC  is just as adequate and it costs about ten dollars less. Given the fact that it'd be necessary to replace the standard headset that you get for free with the console. I can get a Xbox 360 4GB Console for about 200 dollars now. Even less if I use my gamestop discount. I fail to see how Microsoft is bleeding so much money out of us when you're paying the dividend for your console and accessories.

"Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD."

Okay, this is merely exaggeration. Simply because while there may have been a few errors at the beginning of 360's launch period they eventually did offer free support with your RROD and any other problems that you may have had upon the perchase of your 360 despite warrenty time. I got my 360 roughly a year after it's release and I just recently got the RROD two Decembers ago and I've only had my games crash only a hand full of times. I'm able to leave my console on for days on end with it melting out or scratching my disks. So I can hardly see those minimal problems as anything of impending importance. I do not flip over HD graphics because they are
unnecessary unless you have a Plasma or a HD TV (Which I and plenty of other people do not have). So the graphics on the 360 are adequate enough for me not to complain.

"Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content."

Bioware is making the jump to the PS3 userbase because they're sales are lower than the game's actual reputation. I wouldn't exactly say that Microsoft is abusing them at all since it's a known fact that they've been supporting them since Kotor and yet Kotor didn't go to the PS2 at all despite it legendary reputation and popularity. It's all about the sales to Bioware, which makes it all about the money and they could care less about the fans being upset that the PS3 users getting bonus content that they probably won't even bother to release on the 360. They didn't say an hour or a specific amount of minutes of bonus content. Let me rehash they said HOURS, and that's plural for more than one. So I'm estimating that whatever PS3 is getting exclusive that's something the 360 users are gonna wanna have minus the ME1 flashback allowing you to make your decisions.

You should check you facts buddy. The first released Ps3 which was an 80 gig cost 499 not 599 which was exactly the same price as xbox 360 at the time. They were the same price at release so don't try to pull that BS. They didn't raise it to 599 untill months later for the 120 gig. As for the headsets ps3 is compatable with any blue tooth headset and their are many out there that are under 15 bucks. Also what are you talking about? there was no headset standard in either xbox 360 or xbox 360 elites releases. Sure they have bundles now but guess what they also have bunbles for ps3 for relativly the same price if not cheaper than xbox 360. and you also have no idea what your talking about. There is no login error anymore and there is cross game chat. and ooh 200 bucks for a 4gb xbox do you realize for litrally the same price you could get a used 80 gb ps3? hrm 4gb vs 80 I wonder which one is better. As far as kotor goes it sucked balls onconsole and was only ever good on PC so that doesn't really count for ****. As for the 83% and 33% those are not exaggerations those are numbers given by EB games after a study they did in canada. So please check your facts buddy.

i got my xbox at launch i got a headset with it?

and you can cross game chat on ps3? how im tired of writing messages to my friends playing other games.

You have to make a voice chat room and have then join it. then you can play what ever you want and still be able to talk to them.

[obie191970]

DaShadyOne wrote...
and you can cross game chat on ps3? how im tired of writing messages to my friends playing other games.

Yeah.  There is no cross game chat.  I honestly don't know how they will pull it off unless they get a third party like skype to run it for them.

[DaShadyOne]

Nicklesbe wrote...

DaShadyOne wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Renegade Z wrote...

Nicklesbe wrote...

Lorcan0c wrote...

Yes, Bioware you are very smart (Sarchasm).

Soooo, you think it's clever to reward your loyal Xbox 360 and PC audience who have paid for all the DLC and continued to play your games to this point, by giving us a middle finger and giving the PS3 users "Bonus content"?

PS3 users chose the PS3 over xbox, meaning they chose to play the games on offer for the PS3. Almost every PS3 user I have spoken to despises Mass Effect.

Honestly, all I can say is "why?" Why would you betray your loyal fans like this? We stuck by you, now the PS3 players get favouritism?

Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep. Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD. Its also why you pay obscenely for online play. Look at everything Microsoft has done to its users since Xbox's release, they have been betraying you since day one. You've just got batterd wife syndrome and refuse to see it because you think for some reason they hit you because they love you.

Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content.

I completely disagree with everything in this paragraph and I'm going to tell you why.

"Thats an easy one. Because Microsoft hates you. Seriously Microsoft has always hated its xbox users. All they see you as is profit making sheep."

Excuse me, but I digress. If they "hate" us and view us as profit making sheep then why did the PS3 upon launch cost two times more than a standard 360 at it's time of launch? They've just now lowered their prices to our beginning base price to help increase sales. Please, do not say that the 360 had been out longer because the standard edition 360 at the time only costed $299.99 while the standard PS3 during it's launch period was more along the lines of $599.99. Are you sure that you're assessment about Microsort viewing it's users as cattle is correct? Despite the fact that you do not have to pay for PSN I'd hardly consider it fun for a few reasons. It's highly faulty and unreliable due to the PSN error login that took place early this year, also it has no cross-game chat so that means everyone in your party absolutely has to be playing the same game just to chat. Another thing, the pricing of the accessories are incredibly high even today. Please tell me why the PS3 wired headset is $14.99 at gamestop and the bluetooth headset is is $49.99? At least the 360 headsets come standard with the 360 console. While we may not have a bluetooth the 360 Headset Earforce XLC  is just as adequate and it costs about ten dollars less. Given the fact that it'd be necessary to replace the standard headset that you get for free with the console. I can get a Xbox 360 4GB Console for about 200 dollars now. Even less if I use my gamestop discount. I fail to see how Microsoft is bleeding so much money out of us when you're paying the dividend for your console and accessories.

"Thats why they didn't do squat about the fact that 82% of launch xbox's didn't survive a year, and thats why they continued to not do squat about the 33% of xbox consoles after launch that don't make it past 6 months. Thats also why they don;t give a crap about the class action lawsuit they are in due to the fact that many xbox's scratch and ruin game discs. It's also why they lie to your face about having HD graphics and sound when its just SD."

Okay, this is merely exaggeration. Simply because while there may have been a few errors at the beginning of 360's launch period they eventually did offer free support with your RROD and any other problems that you may have had upon the perchase of your 360 despite warrenty time. I got my 360 roughly a year after it's release and I just recently got the RROD two Decembers ago and I've only had my games crash only a hand full of times. I'm able to leave my console on for days on end with it melting out or scratching my disks. So I can hardly see those minimal problems as anything of impending importance. I do not flip over HD graphics because they are
unnecessary unless you have a Plasma or a HD TV (Which I and plenty of other people do not have). So the graphics on the 360 are adequate enough for me not to complain.

"Bioware is finally making the move because simply put they are tierd of the abuse by microsfot. they are tierd of the unfair charges and the rediculous contracts they force game designers to design content with no hope of ever seeing any profit for themselves from that content."

Bioware is making the jump to the PS3 userbase because they're sales are lower than the game's actual reputation. I wouldn't exactly say that Microsoft is abusing them at all since it's a known fact that they've been supporting them since Kotor and yet Kotor didn't go to the PS2 at all despite it legendary reputation and popularity. It's all about the sales to Bioware, which makes it all about the money and they could care less about the fans being upset that the PS3 users getting bonus content that they probably won't even bother to release on the 360. They didn't say an hour or a specific amount of minutes of bonus content. Let me rehash they said HOURS, and that's plural for more than one. So I'm estimating that whatever PS3 is getting exclusive that's something the 360 users are gonna wanna have minus the ME1 flashback allowing you to make your decisions.

You should check you facts buddy. The first released Ps3 which was an 80 gig cost 499 not 599 which was exactly the same price as xbox 360 at the time. They were the same price at release so don't try to pull that BS. They didn't raise it to 599 untill months later for the 120 gig. As for the headsets ps3 is compatable with any blue tooth headset and their are many out there that are under 15 bucks. Also what are you talking about? there was no headset standard in either xbox 360 or xbox 360 elites releases. Sure they have bundles now but guess what they also have bunbles for ps3 for relativly the same price if not cheaper than xbox 360. and you also have no idea what your talking about. There is no login error anymore and there is cross game chat. and ooh 200 bucks for a 4gb xbox do you realize for litrally the same price you could get a used 80 gb ps3? hrm 4gb vs 80 I wonder which one is better. As far as kotor goes it sucked balls onconsole and was only ever good on PC so that doesn't really count for ****. As for the 83% and 33% those are not exaggerations those are numbers given by EB games after a study they did in canada. So please check your facts buddy.

i got my xbox at launch i got a headset with it?

and you can cross game chat on ps3? how im tired of writing messages to my friends playing other games.

You have to make a voice chat room and have then join it. then you can play what ever you want and still be able to talk to them.

oh alright cool thank you