I am a fanboy. I'm a fanboy of the best and most preferable consoles and platforms. So you do have me on that account. Given that, who really isn't? If you were not an PS3/PC fanboy you wouldn't be fighting so hard to dispute everyone left and right who speaks out of tongue about the PS3. As if opinions are illegal. Back by "fact" or not I hardly see any actual fact just a bunch of critically-acclaimed opinions. Lol
Here's a better example: someone says "WELL IN MY OPINION GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE 6000 YEARS AGO AND EVOLUTION IS FAKE." Obviously, millions of people still believe this.
Who is to say that god is not an enigma and actually did create life six thousands years ago prior to what we may believe? Whom is to say it was not all laid out for us to find and believe it's real? Whom is to say our memories dating back to when the first humans are real? Whom is to say that the first humans were even real?
I do not believe any of this but my point is unless you were there, can prove it without a shred of reasonable doubt than it's speculation. There are many ways to think outside of the box on many accounts gaming being one of those accounts. Especially considering it thrive on the majority and fanbase. There will always be many opinions about one situation and unless they can be proven wrong without a doubt they aren't any better than any other reasonably doubtful opinion. That means that just because you've done the statistical work and gathered that those games are "Critically-acclaimed" doesn't mean that they are critically-acclaimed by the majority fanbase that I'd previously mentioned.
I know. That's why I used the qualifier "likely." Likely != every.
It's not even likely. You talk about speaking from a consumer's point of view but which consumer party are you actually talking about? I'm actually on the streets with various people some of which whom own consoles of their own from 360, to PS3, to the Wii they don't "likely" trust what a critic says and half of them don't even pay attention to the critic's opinions in gaming magazines. They generally read the actual facts about the game I.E. from catalog of the site on which they sale them or the box themselves. They get trailers, screen shots, ect. I know which way the hardworking people tend to do things. We want to see facts, not go based on someone elses highly qualified opinion.
Then I guess marketing/advertising is completely pointless then.
Of course after you've accumulated the efficient total from the sales over a set period of time. Just because people by a game doesn't automatically mean they like it until they've played it. Lots of people, including me, have bought games, played them, disliked them, and returned them (if not traded them in).
I think you don't know how to post a good counter-debate and that "over-priced blu-ray player" is an incredbily stupid simplification.
You saying it was an "incredibly stupid" simplification was incredibly stupid as it was meant to be stupid. It's over-priced, fact. For what? Graphics, and a bluray feature that'll have little effect on anything other than a Plasma screen HDTV?
No, SD is adequate and completely satisfactory to me. It's unnecessary to come out of pocket with an overly intellectual insult. It makes me seem as if I'm trying too hard. Like you're doing now. The entire point was not to insult the PS3 it was to call it what it is. A bluray player capable of playing video games. Simple and Clean.
I disagree. My counter-debates are apt with common sense you claim to have.
By your own logic, you're officially a fanboy by trying so hard to make me look wrong and going "WELL DEM PS3S ARE GEWD BUT I LIKE MAH 360S BETTER SO THERE." Herp, derp, herp.
See, this is where you start to **** up. I never said that the PS3s were good. I just said that I don't think they're better than the 360. In my opinion they're horrible. I'd rather play my PSP than the PS3. If I did get a PS3 I'd find it an epic waste of time seeing as how it's merely and updated, bigger, and more popular version of the PSP. Same features, better graphics, gameplay (no change), no chargeable battery. I can only play my PSP for an hour, hour and a half tops. I can play my 360 for hours on end (no more than three). When I play my friend's PS3 it's much the same. We don't even bother with it 85% of the time unless he has something extremely kickass.
No, opinions are flawed when they're not logically backed up.
Your opinions aren't even back by valid logic. It's more like the opinions of critics. Which are flawed based on them being disputable.
If you mean can I prove that every gamer on the planet likes those games, then no, I cannot, because every gamer probably isn't going to like them.
But even though they don't like them doesn't change the fact that they are quality titles, i.e. their design principles are well-implemented, the games are well-tested and thus relatively bug free, the camera isn't wonky/uncontrollable, the programming is organized and logical, the art demonstrates skill and technique, etc. It would be retarded to argue that those elements are all "subjective."
Yet, who is to say that they are well-implemented? The fans, you, or the critics? Yes, well-tested means little when bugs can be corrected through patches on XBL, I'd never consider my camera "wonky/unconrollable" for any of my titles for the 360. It's never once crossed my mind. You sound like you are nit-picking once again at the little things that tend to be very irrelevent. All programming is logical in one way or another, that's just an idiotic statement. Do you know how to code a game? Unless you know how to do that you cannot speak on how "technical" the programming is. They are subjective for the simple fact is that I've heard people say that despite the dated engine used in Mass Effect 2 the graphics are significantly beautiful in their own way. Once again you are breaching the gap between fact and opinion.
Modifié par Renegade Z, 21 août 2010 - 03:31 .
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