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[Rusted Cage]

Psychogamer 94 wrote...

terrordactyl1 wrote...

Missing ME1 won't stop my buying this on PS3. I loved DA and most of the dlc so I will get this on PS3 day one.

5 minutes on wikipedia will fill me in on the story from ME1. Xbox players are fooling themselves if they think PS3 owners will ignore this game just because they haven't played the first.

As for save game continuity, it didn't worry me with DAO either. Some of the dlc in DAO broke the story continuity from my warden's save game choices....it's not a game breaker for me. The characters and gameplay made the game for me.

If you play and finish ME1 you will see how wonderfully it connects your choices to the baseline story.  For those who have not played ME1, then I would agree with you; jump on over to the ps3 version.  For those who have beaten both - and are looking for a new experience the ps3 version - will most likely disagree with you.  If I were you, I wouldn't catch up on the story through wikipedia; their information is not always reliable and often doesn't go into enough detail.  Seeing how this game is very driven by the player's choices, there is no definitive story they can give you.

Agreed, the experience of ME2 without the save file is poorer. But this isn't Biowares fault (not implying anything against Psycho, despite the qoute) as I'm sure they'd love to bring ME to the PS3 if they could. That's why those of us who prefer/would like (etc) to play ME2 on the PS3 are pinning our hopes on a decent introduction experience in whatever form it takes.
I for one beleive that Bioware won't let me down on this aspect. I want my ME2 game on the PS3 to react to me as if I have just completed ME with my PS3 character.

The difference between a default character and an imported character cannot be distinguished just by reading the wiki or watching the videos. It is the feeling you get when you've just had a gruelling battle with an asari matriarch and watched her die an emotional death as she bids farewell to her daughter.
Just when you think you can breathe again, the rachni queen  - a species who you've been told over and over nearly destroyed  the council races - begs you to release her. You have only two choices, free her and risk unleashing terror on the galaxy again, or kill the last survivng member of the species for no other reason than fear.

You make your choice and it carries over into ME2 and probably  ME3. When I got to that part in my first ME2 playthrouh, it brought that whole experience back to me.

I'm not elite-ist, but I would reccomend that anyone who hasn't played ME should do so before playing ME2 just to get the emotional impact of the series. I'm sure that there is a list of "must see" things in ME that can be ticked off if anyone wanted to keep the experience fairly short.

[Negative_Stolen]

terrordactyl1 wrote...

But ME1 isn't available to us, so there's no point getting upset over it.

You are entitled to not be upset about that personally, however, there is much ground to be upset over being denied the full ME2 experience (based on the apparent lack of availability of ME1). Do not mistake the difference. Just because someone says you can't have it, or won't get it, does not ever mean you should not feel slighted for it.

It's like giving someone an identity, but withholding their past (which would further define & enrich said identity).

Not castigating you, just pointing out the central flaw in your logic.

Modifié par Negative_Stolen, 29 août 2010 - 05:50 .

[MMORWhat]

Way to go, Bioware!  You had me at KOTOR for the first XBox.  I got Dragon Age, Awakening, Mass Effect and ME2 for 360 and I have to say that since I also own a PS3, I'll be getting Mass Effect 2 for that even though I already beat it.  That was a clever move on your part, adding the promise of bonus content instead of just a straight port.

There's so few games nowadays that contain the intelligence and thought that the Mass Effect franchise does.  I hope for a continually bright future for Bioware, the last company that puts brains and writing ahead of mindless multiplayer. 

The last remaining method of sending a company notice of its performance is with money, and come January 2011, you got my vote, for the 6th time now.

[Code_R]

QuadraQ wrote...

I have a PS3 and I'm happy that ME2 is coming to it, but without ME1 it's basically a slap in the face to PS3 owners. (In general EA - I don't think it's Bioware - seems to want to forget about ME1 which is baffling.)

A total slap to the face. Microsoft own ME1 still, they're the ones who have denied it to Sony. The fact Bioware let half the plot be ported over just for the $$$s says alot for their integrity.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

The fact that bioware doesn't make any of their games or dlc free for their loyal fans says a lot for their integrity also.

[Morty Smith]

Damn you BW, how many times must I buy your awesome game before you let my nerd-spirit rest in dark-space until your next cycle of genuiside?

[shumworld]

cool. though i if you can manipulate certain key events in the ps3 version. like who lives or die from me1 as well as who did you romance from me1.

[masseffectfan00]

Code_R wrote...

QuadraQ wrote...

I have a PS3 and I'm happy that ME2 is coming to it, but without ME1 it's basically a slap in the face to PS3 owners. (In general EA - I don't think it's Bioware - seems to want to forget about ME1 which is baffling.)

A total slap to the face. Microsoft own ME1 still, they're the ones who have denied it to Sony. The fact Bioware let half the plot be ported over just for the $$$s says alot for their integrity.

If youre a business owner and a similar shop was across the street from you, you'd want to set their business on fire so you'd get more money from sales.  Trust me, Bioware and any other developer's goal is to make money.  They could care less about your feelings.  A bunch of Playstation exclusives came to xbox/360 so I dont know why people are crying about this

[Reptilian Rob]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We are very proud to announce today that Mass Effect 2 will be coming to the Playstation 3 in January 2011. The PS3 edition will include the full Mass Effect 2 game and hours of bonus content.

You can see the new Mass Effect 2 PS3 announcement trailer here: http://masseffect.bioware.com/

Stay tuned for more upcoming details on teh PS3 edition of Mass Effect 2.

[Gibb_Garrus]

Alex475 wrote...

Gibb_Garrus wrote...

terrordactyl1 wrote...

Missing ME1 won't stop my buying this on PS3. I loved DA and most of the dlc so I will get this on PS3 day one.

5 minutes on wikipedia will fill me in on the story from ME1. Xbox players are fooling themselves if they think PS3 owners will ignore this game just because they haven't played the first.

As for save game continuity, it didn't worry me with DAO either. Some of the dlc in DAO broke the story continuity from my warden's save game choices....it's not a game breaker for me. The characters and gameplay made the game for me.

I know you PS3 players will still buy it, that's the entire reason EA brought it over to PS3. But you really don't know what your missing out on by not importing an ME1 save, there is SO much more content if you import your save. If you go straight to ME2, you really don't know whats going on, and trust me a wikipedia read will not replace the experience of me1. I couldn't imagine playing ME2 without an ME1 save.

I played both ME and ME2 and it's not that big of a deal to use the save file from ME. It's a great game no doubt about it, actually I think I even liked it better than ME2 but for those who will only get the second, the game save file thing is almost like a gimmick in my opinion, with a few comments about the preview ME but nothing huge. From what I see in some posts, it seems folks didn't get through the fact ME2 is coming to PS3 anyway, so they're trying to sabotage the game for the other system with this whole: "ME2 will not be good for the PS3 if you don't have the save file from the first game". Like I said, I played the crap out of both games and they're great games but the way BioWare did the second, you don't really need the save file and folks here are trying to make too big of a deal out of it. I would still recomend the PS3 community to play ME maybe on PC if they can just because the game is really great, but the second on your system will be just as fun.

In your opinion, IMO there is a massive difference.They give you a shepard that has been pre determined, already has a personality given to you by default (Going by the default choices in ME2), and really there is just no backstory to your shepard. ME2 will still be a great game for the PS3 players, but they'll never get into what the whole Mass Effect experience has to offer.

[jojoshjo]

So...... When is the 360 going to get some of those PS3 exclusives? Maybe Kingdom Hearts would be nice.

[xODD7BALLx]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

The fact that bioware doesn't make any of their games or dlc free for their loyal fans says a lot for their integrity also.

Cerberus Network doesnt give "loyal" fans free stuff, like weapons, armor, and dlc???

So if they sent everyone MORE free stuff that would somehow translate into them retaining or gaining "integrity"?

[xODD7BALLx]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

SpectreM4 wrote...

I'm hoping there isn't PS3 exclusive content.... because I'm sad enough to ACTUALLY go out and buy ME2 again :/

Do you realize that that is why PS3 is getting exclusive content? Because only in this case you will buy ME2 again.

Funny, I havent seen any BioWare or EA personnel say a single thing about "exclusive content". Not at Gamescom, not in any interviews, not anywhere on the Mass Effect site, not on BioWare's site, not on EA's site, and not even on these forums.
So yeah all this exclusive talk that everyone here keeps bringing up as though it were a fact, in which case it's not, is getting kind of sad really.
There are plenty of resources to soak up regarding anything that has been established or talked about from BioWare and or EA personnel yet people STILL seem to find some out of thin air approach to jump to conclusions on here.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/4492055/1#4492055

here's an easy place to get some info without undertaking any backbreaking work of typing the words "Mass Effect 2 PS3" into the search engine of your choice, lol.

[KingRanger]

Alex475 wrote...

Gibb_Garrus wrote...

terrordactyl1 wrote...

Missing ME1 won't stop my buying this on PS3. I loved DA and most of the dlc so I will get this on PS3 day one.

5 minutes on wikipedia will fill me in on the story from ME1. Xbox players are fooling themselves if they think PS3 owners will ignore this game just because they haven't played the first.

As for save game continuity, it didn't worry me with DAO either. Some of the dlc in DAO broke the story continuity from my warden's save game choices....it's not a game breaker for me. The characters and gameplay made the game for me.

I know you PS3 players will still buy it, that's the entire reason EA brought it over to PS3. But you really don't know what your missing out on by not importing an ME1 save, there is SO much more content if you import your save. If you go straight to ME2, you really don't know whats going on, and trust me a wikipedia read will not replace the experience of me1. I couldn't imagine playing ME2 without an ME1 save.

I played both ME and ME2 and it's not that big of a deal to use the save file from ME. It's a great game no doubt about it, actually I think I even liked it better than ME2 but for those who will only get the second, the game save file thing is almost like a gimmick in my opinion, with a few comments about the preview ME but nothing huge. From what I see in some posts, it seems folks didn't get through the fact ME2 is coming to PS3 anyway, so they're trying to sabotage the game for the other system with this whole: "ME2 will not be good for the PS3 if you don't have the save file from the first game". Like I said, I played the crap out of both games and they're great games but the way BioWare did the second, you don't really need the save file and folks here are trying to make too big of a deal out of it. I would still recomend the PS3 community to play ME maybe on PC if they can just because the game is really great, but the second on your system will be just as fun.

You're either a liar, and have never played ME1 or ME2... Or you're just an idiot. For you to say the things you have here, it has to be liar or idiot.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I've got 8 playthroughs of ME2 completed on PC, 2 of them had ME imports that I had played, 3 had ME imports I'd picked up from the masseffect saves website and the remaining 3 were all ME2 default Sheps.



Jack (my Avatar) falls into the latter and truth be told after reviewing some of the potential choices that showed any clear input in ME2, I doubt I would've done things that much differently.



I'll definitly consider renting the PS3 copy if only just to see what it is like even if there isn't anything extra to help 'bring the PS3 player' into the ME world. Course it won't bother me because I've already experienced ME so I already know the story and already had 3 ME2 default Sheps played through, so at least one more ain't going to hurt.



Anyone coming into this topic and spouting the same 'childish' remarks that Microsoft made upon hearing the news about the ME2 going to the PS3 clearly needs to grow up. Am really curious as to why this news upsets you? How does ME2 coming to PS3 affect you? Oh wait... it doesn't.

[Ferocious7]

For everyone hating on Bioware, it's EA who owns Bioware not the other way around. PS3 owners missing out on the full ME1 experience have EA to blame, no one else. Bioware having to waste their time "porting" only part of the story instead of working on new brilliant titles is greedy EA's fault.

Now EA has done a lot for the gaming industry, however they are not the most promising publishers. Microsoft & Sony are in my opinion, the best publishers overall because they seem to go all out for exclusives (for the most part) and aren't in the business of holding back the talent of a great developer like Bioware just to make some easy money while providing only part of the experience to owners of only one platform. This is one of the reasons I own all platforms (including gaming computers), however I will not buy it for the PS3 when it is released being it is not the full experience. If anything I'd get the PC versions just for the mods although I do not like using a keyboard/mouse with long games & third party controller software usually sucks for RPG's.

And I saw a comment that touched down on Bioware making DLC free for everyone. They made some DLC free, which is more than reasonable. They have every right to charge for their DLC that they spend additional time working on. No one forces you to buy DLC.


Mass Effect 2 IS better than nothing for PS3 owners who don't play ME1 anywhere else, however it is NOT nearly as good as having the complete experience on one platform of choice.  No big deal, more and more people are becoming multi-platform owners so if they really want it (minus the porting of their ME1 save unless they make it portable from the ME1 for PC version with a USB flashdrive or something along those lines) they will go out of their way and get Mass Effect for the 360 and/or PC.

Modifié par Ferocious7, 30 août 2010 - 05:06 .

[xODD7BALLx]

Ferocious7 wrote...

For everyone hating on Bioware, it's EA who owns Bioware not the other way around. PS3 owners missing out on the full ME1 experience have EA to blame, no one else. Bioware having to waste their time "porting" only part of the story instead of working on new brilliant titles is greedy EA's fault.

They hired staff to work on the port, and the port alone. ME3's schedule has not and will not be affected by the port.

[hellzenvy]

I Have Mass Effect 1 for the 360 and have beaten it once. I was going to get Mass Effect 2 and probably a new 360 since i just got my 2nd red ring and the console is no longer covered. Now im going to wait though for the ps3 version. I have already bought The Ce of Dragon Age and also Awakening expansion for the ps3 so i was wondering will my Blood Dragon Armour DLC code work for the upcoming release for The Ps3?

[KingRanger]

hellzenvy wrote...

I Have Mass Effect 1 for the 360 and have beaten it once. I was going to get Mass Effect 2 and probably a new 360 since i just got my 2nd red ring and the console is no longer covered. Now im going to wait though for the ps3 version. I have already bought The Ce of Dragon Age and also Awakening expansion for the ps3 so i was wondering will my Blood Dragon Armour DLC code work for the upcoming release for The Ps3?

The only way it's not covered is if you bought it prior to 2007

[NightmarezAbound]

jojoshjo wrote...

So...... When is the 360 going to get some of those PS3 exclusives? Maybe Kingdom Hearts would be nice.

hmm MGS coming to the 360, Final Fantasy XIII was originally PS3 Ex went to 360. 

Besides Kingdom Hearts would go to the Wii.

[Topographer]

More money for Bioware means better game for me. Good deal.

[heretica]

Topographer wrote...

More money for Bioware means better game for me. Good deal.

how so?

[Oblivious]

Are the fanboys still crying over this? I thought their average life-span was 2 weeks...

[nightcobra]

Catt128 wrote...

Topographer wrote...

More money for Bioware means better game for me. Good deal.

how so?

i think he meant that with this, bioware gets more funding for their next game.

[Mubar]

Catt128 wrote...

Topographer wrote...

More money for Bioware means better game for me. Good deal.

how so?

PS3 isn't hacked witch means if oyu dont buy you dont play.What do you think MGS 4 woulf look like on the 360 Kojima even complayned that there isnt enough space on the BR disk for the game so he had to cut stuff out