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[Gibb_Garrus]

its pretty much guaranteed the ps 3 users will get exclusive content. Many people who have both a 360 and a ps3 will not buy the ps3 version, why would they, but if there is ps3 had exclusive content they definately would. its all about the money people

Modifié par Gibb_Garrus, 18 août 2010 - 08:52 .

[DaShadyOne]

legend of kane wrote...

 I was pissed yesterday when i heard the news i admit it, it was because BW lied and
you can find multiple interviews in which they deny ME 2 was being ported to the PS 3. I hate liars.
And i don't trust them.

However, my best friend owns a PS 3, i own a 360, neither of us can AFFORD to buy the other
console. He has had to listen to me talk about ME 1 and 2 for years now. I know he'd like the game,
we like the same stuff usually, thats why were friends..He never gets what i'm talking about.
Last night i was talking to him and realized he had no clue about the announcement, so i told him,dude
got so excited, the very first thing he said was.."now we can talk about this game and i'll finally
know what the hell your talking about".  That put a smile on my face.

When it comes down to it, we are all gamers, we love the games we play. We hail them when they
are great and rip them to shreds when they fail. This whole console thing is ruining true gaming,
we are NOT just 360 players or PS 3 players, we are gamers dam it, one community. Its companies
like Sony and Microsoft that divide us up like cattle and pit us against eachother, and its gotten
old and tired.

Let me ask everyone a hypothetical question..

If a new company came along, and introduced a new multi console that let you play the combined
libraries of the PS 3 and Xbox 360, and lets say gave us access to Xbox live and the PSN..
How many of us would dump the PS 3 and 360 in favor of this new console? I would, my buddy
said he would, i bet most would.

So it really is easy to see its the console makers that divide us, not the games
or their developers.

We gamers need to team up with developers, and make it clear to these companies,
we won't be a part of their "console war" anymore..were done. Its getting to expensive
for most of us, and it has gotten out of hand. Times need to change to keep up with an
ailing world economy.

The days of people buying 2 different consoles for 2 different games that aren't available on the
opposite console are numbered. Every day that passes more and more people are finding
themselves without an income..days of luxury are coming to an end for a lot of people and
this includes double consoles. Its now a giant waste of money most can no longer afford.

the console war is bad when i see gamers fighting over consoles i think its stupid and ridiculous

but when companies and devs do it. it just motivates them and pushes them to be better than their competitors

i have always wanted sony and microsoft to team up and make a fantastic console but when you think about it
if that happens they would never have to drop the price and a union like that would definatly be expensive. Developers wouldnt have to compete with each other yeah they might have minor competitions between games like COD and BFC2 etc. but do you think sony and microsoft will pay extra funds to support those devs into making something amazing for their united console? no.... cuz either way they would still have us by the balls

[obie191970]

GSpotFrenzy wrote...

Maybe it's good business now but it'll eventually bite you in the butt. If it's free for PS3 owners then it sends a message to those who paid that Bioware doesn't care about them.

It's no different than a cel phone company or cable company offering promotional rates to attract new customers that existing customers can't get.

Seriously?  How is any different from the GoTY edition that is certainly going to be released for the 360 and PC?  Why should those people get it for free?  You guys have got to be kidding me.

[Nyaa001]

Operative84 wrote...

Nyaa001 wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

Th3 Trench wrote...

guys The dlc will be sold separately and not included in the game (more cash)

u can't possibly think they are gonna put in there for free

Cerberus network anyone . so no ps3 user shouldn't get special treatment

They already confirmed that the game would include all the current DLC, which is fine because they are probably going to charge full price for a game that is $30 on other platforms.

It's not fine for entitled people, which is evident in the majority of the posts here.
Even if all the current DLC were made free that still wouldn't be enough for the entitled people who paid for it.

Sure, they got to enjoy the full game plus DLC content for a whole year before the PS3 crowd will, but it's still not fair for some reason. But whatever, it's probably not fair to them that PS3 owners get to enjoy the game at all.

How fair is it that PS3 only owners had to wait a year longer to play it? 

blame the director that said it would be only on PC and 360 those who paid for the DLC shouldnt have to suffer for PS3 to get it free thats all im saying if they are gonna make it free bioware EA whatever should do somthing to make it up to those that bought it if they make it free for PS3 understand??

What is there that needs to be made up for? For making a decision to bring THEIR PROPERTY to another platform???? You are and end user, you have no real rights to your copy of ME2 or any of the DLC, say you decide to get rid of your 360 and decide to play just on PC, guess what you cant keep the DLC. You bought it at the time when it was sold for a price that you decided to pay, nobody made you buy it, you choose to buy it, but you are an end user, you have no real rights to it, again Bioware and EA OWN THE RIGHTS TO THEIR PROPERTY therefore anything they do with it is their right. There is nothing that needs to be made up for, they dont owe you anything.

so your saying that they cant be fair to the customer the one that helps provide them money is that what your saying ???

[Valakas]

Operative84 wrote...

But porting the game and whatever content they should choose to include isnt a error or mistake, that's a business decision they are making as a company, I'm not exactly seeing a connection of how their decision to do business is something that "harms" you out of a mistake.

You have your right to the way you feel about everything but I just dont see the connection, I mean XBL made a mistake and listed DLC that was "intended" for those who paid for the Collectors Edition of ME2, but XBL never made amends for that mistake, yet somehow Bioware making a business decision is terrible?

In addition to that, would everyone HONESTLY that are freaking out about all this which let's be honest there is not a lot of hard factual information on anyways, be ok and cool about Bioware providing new ME2 buyers for 360 and PC the majority of DLC out there via the Cerb Net, for free? If you're ok with that then why not for the PS3?

Lying it's a mistake. Or not precisely a mistake, but something they should apologize for.

Why not simply telling us "we are going to freaking port ME 2 to the PS3 with all the free DLC included on the disc on January 2011 and exclusive content. You have the choice to buy the game now, or get the complete version later".

That would have been honest, companys like Square enix announce their ports BEFORE the game it's released (FF XIII; for example, this company is HONEST), not several months later once they have milked money from their fans.

The people on Bioware are liars, and i hate liars.

http://kotaku.com/54...bioware-says-no

Modifié par Valakas, 18 août 2010 - 08:55 .

[Cra5y Pineapple]

These "Hours of Exclusive Content" better be DLC. I'm not going to buy a PS3.

[Starscream723]

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

Wow 80+ pages in 24hrs.

You should've seen the Epic Bioware Community Event topic ... It got like 10,000 posts in 16 hours.

Yeah, but that thread was an Epic Community Event in itself. Plus it was funny, and people got creative. *points at youtube link in sig*

I've yet to see one amusing photoshop image as a way of expressing disatisfaction with this announcement; It's all just been boring old-fashioned complaining. I don't care about this announcement, but if you do then come on folks, step it up.

[Valakas]

Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

These "Hours of Exclusive Content" better be DLC. I'm not going to buy a PS3.

I hear you man.

I have a PS3 and i'm not buying the same game twice, no matter what kind of extra content it is.

[heretica]

Just leaving a link...

www.vg247.com/2010/08/18/gamescom-interview-ray-bioware-confirms-intro-content-for-me2-ps3-included-dlc-more/

[711]

i thought mass effect was too be a xbox 360 exclusive, then they announce it for PC, but now PS3... i just lost all the respect i had for Bioware.. if they make mass effect 3 for ps3 with exclusive stuff, i won't even buy mass effect 3 for xbox

[711]

You stapped us in the back Bioware!!

[xODD7BALLx]

Nyaa001 wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

Nyaa001 wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

Th3 Trench wrote...

guys The dlc will be sold separately and not included in the game (more cash)

u can't possibly think they are gonna put in there for free

Cerberus network anyone . so no ps3 user shouldn't get special treatment

They already confirmed that the game would include all the current DLC, which is fine because they are probably going to charge full price for a game that is $30 on other platforms.

It's not fine for entitled people, which is evident in the majority of the posts here.
Even if all the current DLC were made free that still wouldn't be enough for the entitled people who paid for it.

Sure, they got to enjoy the full game plus DLC content for a whole year before the PS3 crowd will, but it's still not fair for some reason. But whatever, it's probably not fair to them that PS3 owners get to enjoy the game at all.

How fair is it that PS3 only owners had to wait a year longer to play it? 

blame the director that said it would be only on PC and 360 those who paid for the DLC shouldnt have to suffer for PS3 to get it free thats all im saying if they are gonna make it free bioware EA whatever should do somthing to make it up to those that bought it if they make it free for PS3 understand??

What is there that needs to be made up for? For making a decision to bring THEIR PROPERTY to another platform???? You are and end user, you have no real rights to your copy of ME2 or any of the DLC, say you decide to get rid of your 360 and decide to play just on PC, guess what you cant keep the DLC. You bought it at the time when it was sold for a price that you decided to pay, nobody made you buy it, you choose to buy it, but you are an end user, you have no real rights to it, again Bioware and EA OWN THE RIGHTS TO THEIR PROPERTY therefore anything they do with it is their right. There is nothing that needs to be made up for, they dont owe you anything.

so your saying that they cant be fair to the customer the one that helps provide them money is that what your saying ???

your interpretation of FAIR, which I dont know what world you're living in but the world most of us are in tune with is not a very fair world, but your interpretation of fairness is that Bioware and EA give you MORE free stuff(how much has Cerberus Network provided free? which they could have charged you for) for a BUSINESS DECISION they made with THEIR OWN PROPERTY. Years from now when ME2 is 19.99 are you going to flip out on the retailer for selling it for 19.99 when you paid 59.99-79.99???

You interpret fairness as someone providing you with a means to be a freeloader just because you dont agree with a choice they have the legal and creative rights to make, and that's fine everyone goes about their days differently, but just because you see fair as one thing doesnt mean Bioware and EA see it that way too.

[obie191970]

Valakas wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

But porting the game and whatever content they should choose to include isnt a error or mistake, that's a business decision they are making as a company, I'm not exactly seeing a connection of how their decision to do business is something that "harms" you out of a mistake.

You have your right to the way you feel about everything but I just dont see the connection, I mean XBL made a mistake and listed DLC that was "intended" for those who paid for the Collectors Edition of ME2, but XBL never made amends for that mistake, yet somehow Bioware making a business decision is terrible?

In addition to that, would everyone HONESTLY that are freaking out about all this which let's be honest there is not a lot of hard factual information on anyways, be ok and cool about Bioware providing new ME2 buyers for 360 and PC the majority of DLC out there via the Cerb Net, for free? If you're ok with that then why not for the PS3?

Lying it's a mistake. Or not precisely a mistake, but something they should apologize for.

Why not simply telling us "we are going to freaking port ME 2 to the PS3 with all the free DLC included on the disc on January 2011 and exclusive content. You have the choice to buy the game now, or get the complete version later".

That would have been honest, companys like Square enix announce their ports BEFORE the game it's released (FF XIII; for example, this company is HONEST), not several months later once they have milked money from their fans.

The people on Bioware are liars, and i hate liars.

http://kotaku.com/54...bioware-says-no

As I mentioned elsewhere - I obviously don't know the facts, but it is fairly obvious that Microsoft paid Bioware/EA to have ME2 as an exclusive for 1 year with a no reveal policy of at least 6 months.  The timing of everything just fits too perfectly for it to be coincidence.  It's the same thing Microsoft did with GTA IV?  Remember that "no DLC was coming to the PS3" as Microsoft yelled out at every opportunity?

[Kroesis-]

Thread: TL:DR



Xbox and PC owners have ME1, PS3 owners get an hour or two (probably less) of 'Introductory' gameplay. Perhaps allowing them to make some choices that affect ME2.. maybe. I don't see much of a problem on my side. I could live without it.

I don't see existing DLC coming with the PS3 version for free, but if it is so, I still don't care, I paid for it and played it months before PS3 owners could. Overall, until further info is released (if it hasn't already (TL:DR remember?) 360 and PC owners, I believe, are still getting the better deal.

[Spectre 117]

Why is this news suppose to be exciting for the me community who already bought the f***ing game???The least they could have done was to announce a f***ing release date for the shadow broker dlc.ME2 is not like any other shooter in which you can pickup the story at any given entry,to fully appreciate the greatness of it you need to play the first one,what bioware and ea are trying is a shallow attempt to grab some more cash in me2 (which is what they are suppose to do) but they might as well fail since most ps3 owners might not get it for the sole purpose of not having played the first one.

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

How much you wanna bet that these "hours of exclusive content" end up in Mass Effect 2 GOTY Edition for PC & Xbox 360 like a month after the PS3 Release?

[Andrewken2ky]

Operative84 wrote...

Nyaa001 wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

Nyaa001 wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

Th3 Trench wrote...

guys The dlc will be sold separately and not included in the game (more cash)

u can't possibly think they are gonna put in there for free

Cerberus network anyone . so no ps3 user shouldn't get special treatment

They already confirmed that the game would include all the current DLC, which is fine because they are probably going to charge full price for a game that is $30 on other platforms.

It's not fine for entitled people, which is evident in the majority of the posts here.
Even if all the current DLC were made free that still wouldn't be enough for the entitled people who paid for it.

Sure, they got to enjoy the full game plus DLC content for a whole year before the PS3 crowd will, but it's still not fair for some reason. But whatever, it's probably not fair to them that PS3 owners get to enjoy the game at all.

How fair is it that PS3 only owners had to wait a year longer to play it? 

blame the director that said it would be only on PC and 360 those who paid for the DLC shouldnt have to suffer for PS3 to get it free thats all im saying if they are gonna make it free bioware EA whatever should do somthing to make it up to those that bought it if they make it free for PS3 understand??

What is there that needs to be made up for? For making a decision to bring THEIR PROPERTY to another platform???? You are and end user, you have no real rights to your copy of ME2 or any of the DLC, say you decide to get rid of your 360 and decide to play just on PC, guess what you cant keep the DLC. You bought it at the time when it was sold for a price that you decided to pay, nobody made you buy it, you choose to buy it, but you are an end user, you have no real rights to it, again Bioware and EA OWN THE RIGHTS TO THEIR PROPERTY therefore anything they do with it is their right. There is nothing that needs to be made up for, they dont owe you anything.

so your saying that they cant be fair to the customer the one that helps provide them money is that what your saying ???

your interpretation of FAIR, which I dont know what world you're living in but the world most of us are in tune with is not a very fair world, but your interpretation of fairness is that Bioware and EA give you MORE free stuff(how much has Cerberus Network provided free? which they could have charged you for) for a BUSINESS DECISION they made with THEIR OWN PROPERTY. Years from now when ME2 is 19.99 are you going to flip out on the retailer for selling it for 19.99 when you paid 59.99-79.99???

You interpret fairness as someone providing you with a means to be a freeloader just because you dont agree with a choice they have the legal and creative rights to make, and that's fine everyone goes about their days differently, but just because you see fair as one thing doesnt mean Bioware and EA see it that way too.

Not years 6 months, it's selling very cheap nowadays. I got it for £15 ($20) about 15 days ago and got 2 Ceberub network codes with it.

[Valakas]

obie191970 wrote...



As I mentioned elsewhere - I obviously don't know the facts, but it is fairly obvious that Microsoft paid Bioware/EA to have ME2 as an exclusive for 1 year with a no reveal policy of at least 6 months.  The timing of everything just fits too perfectly for it to be coincidence.  It's the same thing Microsoft did with GTA IV?  Remember that "no DLC was coming to the PS3" as Microsoft yelled out at every opportunity?

So on top of being liars, they also got money out of it? That's even more repulsive.

If they really took a bribe from Microsoft, i hope they use part of that money to make up with us.

[xODD7BALLx]

Valakas wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

But porting the game and whatever content they should choose to include isnt a error or mistake, that's a business decision they are making as a company, I'm not exactly seeing a connection of how their decision to do business is something that "harms" you out of a mistake.

You have your right to the way you feel about everything but I just dont see the connection, I mean XBL made a mistake and listed DLC that was "intended" for those who paid for the Collectors Edition of ME2, but XBL never made amends for that mistake, yet somehow Bioware making a business decision is terrible?

In addition to that, would everyone HONESTLY that are freaking out about all this which let's be honest there is not a lot of hard factual information on anyways, be ok and cool about Bioware providing new ME2 buyers for 360 and PC the majority of DLC out there via the Cerb Net, for free? If you're ok with that then why not for the PS3?

Lying it's a mistake. Or not precisely a mistake, but something they should apologize for.

Why not simply telling us "we are going to freaking port ME 2 to the PS3 with all the free DLC included on the disc on January 2011 and exclusive content. You have the choice to buy the game now, or get the complete version later".

That would have been honest, companys like Square enix announce their ports BEFORE the game it's released (FF XIII; for example, this company is HONEST), not several months later once they have milked money from their fans.

The people on Bioware are liars, and i hate liars.

http://kotaku.com/54...bioware-says-no

if they had would you have waited a year, hell no you wouldnt have. Unless you work in Bioware's offices then you dont know when they precisely made the decision to start porting it. SO whatever was said in December and January, Spring etc prior to when they exactly started porting doesnt make a difference, we have politicians that lie, but as soon as they are replaced by a worse politician everyone and their sister says that other guy was really honest, I dont like the new guy. It's the same situation here, you dont like their decision so you're mad, you feel they "lied" directly to you with the intent of ruining your life and you're lashing out, if they announced tomorrow the PS3 port is cancelled you'd be all fine and dandy about them again.

If you feel so strongly about how they "milked you" for your money by FORCING you to buy DLC, and feel that now that they are liars in your eyes, and we know how you hate liars then sell your Bioware stuff and move on to something that doesnt cause you such personal pain and misery.

[Nyaa001]

Operative84 wrote...

Nyaa001 wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

Nyaa001 wrote...

Blk_Mage_Ctype wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

Th3 Trench wrote...

guys The dlc will be sold separately and not included in the game (more cash)

u can't possibly think they are gonna put in there for free

Cerberus network anyone . so no ps3 user shouldn't get special treatment

They already confirmed that the game would include all the current DLC, which is fine because they are probably going to charge full price for a game that is $30 on other platforms.

It's not fine for entitled people, which is evident in the majority of the posts here.
Even if all the current DLC were made free that still wouldn't be enough for the entitled people who paid for it.

Sure, they got to enjoy the full game plus DLC content for a whole year before the PS3 crowd will, but it's still not fair for some reason. But whatever, it's probably not fair to them that PS3 owners get to enjoy the game at all.

How fair is it that PS3 only owners had to wait a year longer to play it? 

blame the director that said it would be only on PC and 360 those who paid for the DLC shouldnt have to suffer for PS3 to get it free thats all im saying if they are gonna make it free bioware EA whatever should do somthing to make it up to those that bought it if they make it free for PS3 understand??

What is there that needs to be made up for? For making a decision to bring THEIR PROPERTY to another platform???? You are and end user, you have no real rights to your copy of ME2 or any of the DLC, say you decide to get rid of your 360 and decide to play just on PC, guess what you cant keep the DLC. You bought it at the time when it was sold for a price that you decided to pay, nobody made you buy it, you choose to buy it, but you are an end user, you have no real rights to it, again Bioware and EA OWN THE RIGHTS TO THEIR PROPERTY therefore anything they do with it is their right. There is nothing that needs to be made up for, they dont owe you anything.

so your saying that they cant be fair to the customer the one that helps provide them money is that what your saying ???

your interpretation of FAIR, which I dont know what world you're living in but the world most of us are in tune with is not a very fair world, but your interpretation of fairness is that Bioware and EA give you MORE free stuff(how much has Cerberus Network provided free? which they could have charged you for) for a BUSINESS DECISION they made with THEIR OWN PROPERTY. Years from now when ME2 is 19.99 are you going to flip out on the retailer for selling it for 19.99 when you paid 59.99-79.99???

You interpret fairness as someone providing you with a means to be a freeloader just because you dont agree with a choice they have the legal and creative rights to make, and that's fine everyone goes about their days differently, but just because you see fair as one thing doesnt mean Bioware and EA see it that way too.

no i dont care about how much the game costs that was to be expected what im talking about is the DLC why should PS3 get it free is what i saying i got the collectors ED. the price on mass effect 2 dropped i dont care about that that pair i know is my fault im saying PS3 owners should pay for DLC too why should it be thrown into their laps the director said in the interview check the game informer about what systems get ME2 why lie and then go " by the way 360 and PC fans PS3 GETS ALL THE DLC FOR FREE " all im asking is if bioware listens to us for advice on a good game and all that then make ps3 pay for the DLC the game itself is already a lower price.

[Ousideas]

I'm far too lazy to sift through 89 pages to see what everyone's said so far about the announcement. I pretty much have the general gist of the various opinions. So I'll just give my two cents on the whole matter:



The announcement to port ME2 to PS3 surprised me because I just thought it was a baseless rumour. It didn't make any sense to me to port the sequel of a trilogy to a console without including the first game.



I've read some valid concerns about the fact that if PS3 never gets ME (and thus never gets the chance to import their game in ME2) then it's likely ME3 will downplay or even ignore decisions made in the first game. This is my main concern since I love the ability to import saves and feel like my choices matter. That was one reason I'm so excited for ME3: to see choices made in the first game affect the last game.



That said, everything is kind of speculation at this point. There's no telling what ME3 will or will not include so I really can't get worked up over it just yet.



I own both the 360 and the PS3 so I don't have any bizarro console war bias. Though, I really do not plan on buying ME2 for PS3. As far the exclusive content goes, I'd be ticked off if PS3 got exclusives or anything amazingly new and cool that I couldn't get for the Xbox (or PC users couldn't get/have to pay for) simply because I don't want to shell out cash for a game I already have to get content that's only included on another console.



But again, that's pure speculation so I'm not really bothered by it.



I liked the idea of the ME trilogy remaining exclusive to Xbox/PC. Exclusivity doesn't bother me since I'm fortunate enough to have multiple consoles and usually get to play all those exclusive games. It's nice to cultivate a more tight-knit group of fans. But on the other hand, if more people get to enjoy a game I love so dearly, then that's a good thing.



If ME2 was ever ported to, idk the Wii, then I'd be crying foul. Haha.

[Spectre 117]

Microsoft is honestly the most stupid company to have ever entered the video games market,i mean if they keep this up we might just see halo and gears on wii.How can you buy the rights to the first game and see it was succesful and not buy the rights for the other two???

[nightcobra]

Spectre 117 wrote...

Why is this news suppose to be exciting for the me community who already bought the f***ing game???The least they could have done was to announce a f***ing release date for the shadow broker dlc.ME2 is not like any other shooter in which you can pickup the story at any given entry,to fully appreciate the greatness of it you need to play the first one,what bioware and ea are trying is a shallow attempt to grab some more cash in me2 (which is what they are suppose to do) but they might as well fail since most ps3 owners might not get it for the sole purpose of not having played the first one.

i am a ps3 owner and  i've played ME1 through a friend, another friend i have came to know the story through let's plays on youtube, so no it's not guaranteed to fail on ps3, us who are interested have already researched the story of the first so we can be prepared for ME2 though ME1 for ps3 would also be a welcome addition.

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Kroesis- wrote...

Thread: TL:DR

Xbox and PC owners have ME1, PS3 owners get an hour or two (probably less) of 'Introductory' gameplay. Perhaps allowing them to make some choices that affect ME2.. maybe. I don't see much of a problem on my side. I could live without it.
I don't see existing DLC coming with the PS3 version for free, but if it is so, I still don't care, I paid for it and played it months before PS3 owners could. Overall, until further info is released (if it hasn't already (TL:DR remember?) 360 and PC owners, I believe, are still getting the better deal.

That's how I feel about it.

Sadly, there are alot of entitlement freaks here.
I'm surprised that they don't want to be reimbursed for the $20 price drop as well.

[Nyaa001]

Operative84 wrote...

Valakas wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

But porting the game and whatever content they should choose to include isnt a error or mistake, that's a business decision they are making as a company, I'm not exactly seeing a connection of how their decision to do business is something that "harms" you out of a mistake.

You have your right to the way you feel about everything but I just dont see the connection, I mean XBL made a mistake and listed DLC that was "intended" for those who paid for the Collectors Edition of ME2, but XBL never made amends for that mistake, yet somehow Bioware making a business decision is terrible?

In addition to that, would everyone HONESTLY that are freaking out about all this which let's be honest there is not a lot of hard factual information on anyways, be ok and cool about Bioware providing new ME2 buyers for 360 and PC the majority of DLC out there via the Cerb Net, for free? If you're ok with that then why not for the PS3?

Lying it's a mistake. Or not precisely a mistake, but something they should apologize for.

Why not simply telling us "we are going to freaking port ME 2 to the PS3 with all the free DLC included on the disc on January 2011 and exclusive content. You have the choice to buy the game now, or get the complete version later".

That would have been honest, companys like Square enix announce their ports BEFORE the game it's released (FF XIII; for example, this company is HONEST), not several months later once they have milked money from their fans.

The people on Bioware are liars, and i hate liars.

http://kotaku.com/54...bioware-says-no

if they had would you have waited a year, hell no you wouldnt have. Unless you work in Bioware's offices then you dont know when they precisely made the decision to start porting it. SO whatever was said in December and January, Spring etc prior to when they exactly started porting doesnt make a difference, we have politicians that lie, but as soon as they are replaced by a worse politician everyone and their sister says that other guy was really honest, I dont like the new guy. It's the same situation here, you dont like their decision so you're mad, you feel they "lied" directly to you with the intent of ruining your life and you're lashing out, if they announced tomorrow the PS3 port is cancelled you'd be all fine and dandy about them again.

If you feel so strongly about how they "milked you" for your money by FORCING you to buy DLC, and feel that now that they are liars in your eyes, and we know how you hate liars then sell your Bioware stuff and move on to something that doesnt cause you such personal pain and misery.

so your saying now that we should just give up and let it happen to others??