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[Epantiras]

javierabegazo wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Kate Mulgrew being back=totally awesome.
No more fond of the new art direction here than I was in the stills. I can ignore that the Qunari are unrecognizable as the same race, but that armor on Hawke is really hideous.

I have to agree. It sort of stinks of Cloud from FFVII

[SoR82]

Cancelled Ive got God of War thanks

[Dave of Canada]

Gartar wrote...

For those of you who have played Nox, is it just me or does the weapon look like a exact copy of the halberd of horrendous?

I miss that game.

[Saibh]

SoR82 wrote...

Cancelled Ive got God of War thanks

You, uh, never saw the Sacred Ashes trailer, did you?

[Apollo Starflare]

Not going to read the entire thread to see who else picked up on this but here are some observations I made in the varric thread:

-Confirmation there will be only 2 narrators from Mike. Unless
there is a secret narrator they are avoiding mentioning. Most likely
they mean Varric and Cass? Or Varric and someone else?

-Default
Hawke is apparently some sort of arcane warrior/bloodmage. They
obviously realised that that particular build was godly in Origins...
Apostate Hawke to be the default story then?

-Hawke
battles a Qunari warrior at Kirkwall. All while Flemmeth is discussing
destiny and whatnot. Seeing as it was not a special hornless Qunari, if
this fight has any bearing on the story (and in I think it might, given
the montage as well) then we could see a Qunari invasion of the Free
Marches. Very interesting Sten-potential right there. I don't care if he
died in your game.

-Hawke's 'mageyness'. It's
debatable that this is some new warrior stuff, a weapon that shoots fire
and whatnot. However that doesn't explain the fire he shoved in the
Qunari's face, nor his use of blood and the glowy red eyes. It reeked of
blood mage warrior to me, but it could be something Flemmeth related,
seeing as they are bigging up her 'dragon' form then we all know
Dragon's can grant strange powers (reaver spec).

-If Hawke is a blood mage, then it makes his
smearing of blood on his face a bit more notable than just him wanting
to be Adam Ant.

-New sword styles evident. Qunari seems to be dual wielding with a particularly large double headed axe as well.

-The design on the King/Prince's cloak looks Dwarven to me. Not sure what that might imply, if anything.

-I
must admit I love Hawke's cocky almost jaunty pose and stroll up the
steps. He isn't very militaristic/stupidly buff which I approve of. But
then he does seem to be a mage.

-Incidentally if he -is- a
mage then that would explain his default weapon. It will be a special
Arcane Warrior weapon (Not saying it will be restricted to AW if that
spec is even in the game, but it will be designed for combat mages).
That doesn't mean we won't see polearms used by other classes though,
I'm just speculating.

-Hawke's sword staff (I think it's the end
of it) has a strange amber gem set into the pommel, with root like
things around it, very Morrigan-ish.

-Big round red circle on Qunari's axe, symbol of the Qun? Or something else? I can't remember if we've seen it before.

-He also has a white symbol on his shoulder pad.

-Incidentally default Hawke's shoulder pad/gauntlet combo looks kinda silly but I'll let it pass.

-Yeah his sword staff definitely has that orb on the pommel, probably magical.

-Mountains in the distance.

-The orb seems to glow while Hawke uses his weapon.

-More
Dwarven-y symbols on the pillars. Or are they Tevinter in origin? Just
remembered Tevinter uses similar designs on the runes.

-Hawke burns the Qunari using his gauntlet hand. Is it magic or some sort of corruption on that arm?

-I
swear the Qunari uses a magical attack to stop Hawke's flame attack. It
happens to fast to be sure though. Seems unlikely as the Qunari don't
like mages and keep them chained up, but still.

-Nope whatever
power Hawke has isn't confined to his gauntlet arm. After being wounded
you can see him cut his other arm (the cuts on which are already glowing
red with power). His cut starts smoking and then you get the montage of
memories as he closes his eyes.

-Hawke making out with the gypsy
woman/pirate lady. Guessing she comes from Antiva or Rivain judging by
appearance? Maybe the Qunari will play a big role in this. Big pirates
of the Caribbean vibe with her, she has golden earrings with a skull on
them and a headscarf/bandana. Maybe she is played by Penelope Cruz
(what? I can dream right?)

-Ah she is definitely a pirate lady, there is a boat in the background.

-Looks
like she betrays Hawke, or similar. She tries to leave, he grabs her,
she points a sword at him. Maybe he is really clingy? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

-Flaming buildings. Could be Lothering?

-Really interesting
shot of Hawke gazing down upon a canyon strewn with statues and ancient
looking buildings. In the distance is a hill/mountain with a fortress
on the top. Actually this could just be Kirkwall, unless that fight
takes place elsewhere. The architechture is similar.

-Really disturbing
image of some weird dragonmonsterthing after that. It's all emmaciated
and thing, but with the same overal shape as a dragon (wing like
[protrusions and whatnot) glowing red and screaming.

-It then
seems to fly off. Further confirming dragon-ness. The area it is in he
cracked and dead looking with red light coming from underground. Could
this be related to the Dragons that were killed in the Free Marches?

-Hawke's
hands closing a set of big heavy metal doors that lead out into a
cavern. Looks deep road-ish to me, and you can see ruined architecture
in the background. Doesn't seem very deep though, looks like light
spilling down from above.

-VERY annoyingly the next few moments
are really bad quality for some reason, all block and you can't make
anything out. Surely not intentional? You can make out Hawke looking
down at something in a cave though. Wait scrap that he is now looking up
at some giant thing.

-Flemmeth in Dragon form. Unclear whether this was what Hawke was looking at a moment before.

-Flemmy in human form beconing to something.

-Hawke
fighting some giant metal dude with two huge swords in an old building.
I can't make screengrabs right now but this guy looks odd, completely
metal it seems and huge. It has a human looking face though, and is
dressed as if in armor. Some new form of golem? It has like the spikiest
shoulder pads of all time.

-Hawke fighting some other monstrous
thing with a blue core that looks like it's made of rock. Really hard to
make out though and goes by faster than the Flash. It's underground
though, so maybe the same thing I mentioned before Flemmeth.

-Ah
clearer shot of it. It has a head and massively oversized arms. Looks
golem-like to me but much much bigger and OTT. Kinda like you might
imagine a really badass Shale before she got chiseled down. It's blue
core reminds me of something but I can't think what.

-Very Lord of the Rings style shot of a bunch of warriors lining up with shields and spears (think
the start of Fellowship and the battle with Sauron). They are Templar's
judging by the symbol on their shields (the sword with waves coming off
it).

-They are fighting a large group of black clad dudes in a barron area with old pillars dotted about.

-A shot I missed of Flemmeth standing on a cliff overlooking something we can't see (Hawke fighting the rock dude?)

-Finally
got the shot of the black robe guys. I'm calling it now, they are
maleficarum of some sort, they all seem to have staves and robes. They
are a mixture of male and female from what I can see.

-I have a feeling I can see a dragons wings in the background of their 'group shot' Flemmeth?

-Another
shot of the two armies lining up. This looks like it could be to do
with the civil war as we already know the Templar's/Chantry is heavily
involved. Mages unleashed? Would certainly explain why they have made
Hawke a mage (seemingly).

-Back to the fight and Hawke has glowy red eyes now. Could be blood mageyness could be something else.

-Regardless
he shoots some sort of crazy fireball out of his arm that sets fire to
the Qunari. Interestingly the fireball almost seems to have dragon wings
for a brief moment.

- It isn't a normal fireball at all in fact,
it grabs the Qunari's arms and holds him in place. Very blood magic to
me, but can't shake the feeling Dragon's are involved.

-Implied dismemberment of Qunari by Hawke.

-"These are the ones that change the world forever." - Yay for Kate Mulgrew.

-Flemmeth dialogue stuff:
"There
are men that struggle against destiny, only to have it swallow them
whole." - Talking about Hawke I reckon. Probably in relation to him
getting swallowed whole by Varric's chest hair in act 2.

"And
there are men who embrace destiny and do not show their fear" - scrap
that both of these talk about Hawke I think. It's probably to do with
player choice, embrace your destiny or struggle with it. As Varric fans
we will all be in the first camp, we know you can't struggle against
that chest hair.

-Cosmetic note: Garrett  Hawke really does remind me of Morrigan.
I saw someone speculate that Bethany might be taken as Flemmeth's new
'daughter' - but what if it doesn't have to be a daughter? Flemmeth
might be planning on using Hawke for some similar reason. Maybe she is
like a lot of us here and wants to try playing as the opposite gender? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

One definite fact I got out of this trailer was: Regardless of the rest the music in DA2 is going to be freaking fantastic.

[jonluke93]

Well we did see a new companion in that pirate girl, so that's something.

[Brockololly]

I just really don't understand the purpose behind having the first footage of your game be a CGI trailer that leads to false expectations for good or bad. At least with Origins we saw gameplay before the Blur trailers hit- but now you'll have people disappointed that the game isn't more like the Blur trailer or people disappointed the Blur trailer isn't more like the game...



These trailers are really only good to catch the attention of those who have no clue what DA is and to get their foot in the door...

[Das Ego]

So where is my warden in the Trailer?

Sorry, couldnt resist.


So the new love interest looks like some kind of a "gypsy/pirate". And what is wrong with his blood? It looks like fire...

[javierabegazo]

Epantiras wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Kate Mulgrew being back=totally awesome.
No more fond of the new art direction here than I was in the stills. I can ignore that the Qunari are unrecognizable as the same race, but that armor on Hawke is really hideous.

I have to agree. It sort of stinks of Cloud from FFVII

I feel like throwing up...  >.> 

[Cyberfrog81]

Sure, it is a cool trailer. But I'm not any more sold today than I was yesterday.



That whole EA conference too was pretty much: Cooler, faster, better, more, "friggin' awesome", speed speed speed, wheeeeeeee. Some food for mind and soul wouldn't have hurt, you know?

[nuclearpengu1nn]

i seem to hear everyone mention LI can anyone tell me who this LI is?

[brawks]

I think you guys are putting way to much effort into trying to figure out what type of weapon he's weilding Its a sword attached to a staff! Imagine flemeths staff (if she had one) put together with maric's blade (just an example).

[SoR82]

Saibh wrote...

SoR82 wrote...

Cancelled Ive got God of War thanks

You, uh, never saw the Sacred Ashes trailer, did you?

I did and I didnt like that either

[Kohaku]

javierabegazo wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

Kate Mulgrew being back=totally awesome.
No more fond of the new art direction here than I was in the stills. I can ignore that the Qunari are unrecognizable as the same race, but that armor on Hawke is really hideous.

I have to agree. It sort of stinks of Cloud from FFVII

~Snip~

I feel like throwing up...  >.> 

My distain for Final Fantasy 7 still stands.

Modifié par Kerridan Kaiba, 17 août 2010 - 04:02 .

[WorstNameEver]

looks like templars

[Artemis_Entrari]

Just clicked on the link to the new site ...



I don't know why, but I laughed my ass off at that background picture of Hawke. He looks ... odd, for some reason. His head looks a bit too big for his body.



Anyway, off to watch the trailer now ...

[Anarya]

javierabegazo wrote...

I feel like throwing up...  >.> 

Am I the only one who LOVES Hawke's default armor? Maybe it's because I'm Asian or maybe it's because I enjoy Final Fantasy games but I actually like the influences of East Asian armor and weaponry. *shrug*

[jazzy B 3]

Oblivious wrote...

Baiolit wrote...

Trailer was awesome, lots teasing, good narrating, cool fighting.
Btw what was Hawke's weapon, a sword? A spear? A sweard...

It's called a Polearm to answer the general question. If you want the specific name (like there are longswords and greatswords) then it's a Halberd. A sword strapped to a spear. And let the HalBEARD jokes commence!

Halberds have poles arround 2 meters long, they are designed for fighting from a distance and against horse-riding enemies.  The sword had a "hilt" less than a metre long and so offers no real advantage to range or precision and instead gets in the way.  Also halberds tend to have a distinct cutting edge similar to an axe with a spike often used for sweeping or dismounting to ballance the blade.  This was closer to a naginata (which we have definitely seen examples of in concept art), but again the pole is too short and naginata have a distinct curve and single cutting edge.  

The Glaive is an example of a pole-arm with a double edged blade, but the blade was far too short and ended with a crossbar.  It's intention was to impail at a distance.  Again it was also mounted on a pole between one and a half and two meters in length.

The sword shown in the trailer is not a real weapon in any way shape or form.

[Merced256]

Saibh wrote...

SoR82 wrote...

Cancelled Ive got God of War thanks

You, uh, never saw the Sacred Ashes trailer, did you?

*slurp

[The Console Version is good]

I was really hoping to hear Hawke talk but he seems like the quiet type maybe he is a chanter.

[Sotaklas]

cool cgi i love the spell at the end i assume it ripped him in 2 ? lol can't wait

[Saibh]

SoR82 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

SoR82 wrote...

Cancelled Ive got God of War thanks

You, uh, never saw the Sacred Ashes trailer, did you?

I did and I didnt like that either

So, you didn't like DAO , then, either, because SA accurately reflected what the game was like?

[Herr Uhl]

 Anyone have an idea who these ladies could be?

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

So, you didn't like DAO , then, either, because SA accurately reflected what the game was like?

Don't try to argue logic.