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[JakeAUS]

Dave of Canada wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Well Bloody hell, they weren't going to say "women" for a male Hawke were they? In Medeival fantasy games it's always going to be a default man, because they were the bloody people who fought in the armies in those days. In Final Fantasy games, it's always going to be a women ninja Chill out ffs, it's awesome, and heres hoping that fem Hawke is really...really...REALLY HOT.

Or it could just mean the "men" in the context of humans..

On top of that, the dark ritual isn't canon.. and not everyone would have chosen to have a child with Morrigan in Origins... so yea.

New trailer and site are awesome, cheers BioWare. I did notice a few spelling errors on the site though. Like 'CREATUES' in the Gallery, for example.

Modifié par JakeAUS, 17 août 2010 - 04:37 .

[ErichHartmann]

Awesome. Now release information about a collector's edition I can pre-order!

[Beerfish]

I didn't read this whole thread but the things I like the part of the trailer that was similar to the old Planescape torment trailer, many quick flashes of things that get you thinking 'who is that' or 'what is that'?

I am assuming that the main character is a arcane warrior in that scene. I hope we haven't changed things even further to make it easy for everyone to use magic and fight and thus make the classes meaningless.

Edit:  Oh and what is the scale of this Strider?  Is it a big sucker I assume?

Modifié par Beerfish, 17 août 2010 - 04:37 .

[Blessed Silence]

Just in case the topic I made gets closed ...

"But I also want to talk about other things in the trailer.

Hawke's gauntlet for one.  This seems either like a melee/touch magic weapon or some sort of amplifier.  When he wouches the Qunari's head, the gauntlet leaves a burn mark that looks to be some shape of fire.  And when Hawke is injures, a gauntleted finger traces over the wound lines.  It could be just some fire gauntlet and cauterized the wounds.

And, did anyone notice the Qunari putting up a forcefield like bubble when Hawke attacked with fire from his staff/sword weapon?  Hm ...."

[ninja0809]

bleh...i was hoping to catch a glimpse of morrigan = =



But anyways, trailer was awesome nonetheless! love to have flemeth's voice back again, and that pirate lady hmm.....could it be isabella???

[yhibiki]

simfamSP wrote...

Well Bloody hell, they weren't going to say "women" for a male Hawke were they? In Medeival fantasy games it's always going to be a default man, because they were the bloody people who fought in the armies in those days. In Final Fantasy games, it's always going to be a women ninja Chill out ffs, it's awesome, and heres hoping that fem Hawke is really...really...REALLY HOT.

I didn't suggest they use "women." I suggested they use the gender netural "people." I would also like to point out that the world of Dragon Age is a mythical world made up by game designers. Ergo, it is not real. Ergo, its history is only that what its creators decide it is. Although in midieval Europe women were never (rarely?) on the battle front, it's been shown in DAO that it's perfectly acceptable for women to be warriors and (supposedly) there is no bias against women fighting. Thus, I don't see why Flemeth, who seems to look down on men anyway, narrates about a destiny that only a MAN can have.

I don't care what gender issues Final Fantasy has because I'm not talking about Final Fantasy, I'm talking about Dragon Age and the choices EA/Bioware made in marketing it.

[Saibh]

In Exile wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

yhibiki wrote...

There are men who struggle against destiny...
And there are men who embrace destiny...

Look, I get it. You want to show how BADASS your game is, and even a hint of a female Hawke would ruin that because we know that women can't ever be awesome. But given that it IS possible to play as a female Hawke, I find it just a TINY BIT offputting that the trailer uses language that implies Hawke must be a man's man and could never be a girl ever.

Seriously, it's not that hard to say "people" instead of "men."

I need to avoid all trailers because they are more likely to drive me away from DA2 than get me hyped up for it.

Well Bloody hell, they weren't going to say "women" for a male Hawke were they? In Medeival fantasy games it's always going to be a default man, because they were the bloody people who fought in the armies in those days. In Final Fantasy games, it's always going to be a women ninja Chill out ffs, it's awesome, and heres hoping that fem Hawke is really...really...REALLY HOT.

You could just say there are THOSE who struggle against destiny; there are THOSE who embrace destiny.

It isn't hard to be gender neutral, and honestly, you don't even need to have a female PC option to aim for that sort of inclusiveness. It's not a big deal to do it.

Yeah...pretty much. It screams "THIS IS A MAN'S GAME, WIMMINS!".

[Mox Ruuga]

Count me in among those not liking Hawke's attire.

JRPG girlyman aesthetics have no place in western dark fantasy, IMO.

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

Yeah...pretty much. It screams "THIS IS A MAN'S GAME, WIMMINS!".

NOW GET IN THE KIT-

Sorry.

[Eudaemonium]

yhibiki wrote...

There are men who struggle against destiny...
And there are men who embrace destiny...

Look, I get it. You want to show how BADASS your game is, and even a hint of a female Hawke would ruin that because we know that women can't ever be awesome. But given that it IS possible to play as a female Hawke, I find it just a TINY BIT offputting that the trailer uses language that implies Hawke must be a man's man and could never be a girl ever.

Seriously, it's not that hard to say "people" instead of "men."

I need to avoid all trailers because they are more likely to drive me away from DA2 than get me hyped up for it.

Yeah that 'default to male' is an annoying habit of, well... everything in life, not just video games. I assume they meant it in a 'universal human' sense, rather than a specifically male sense - not that it makes it any better, indeed the fact that 'men' can be used to refer to everyone is a rather sorry state of our culture, but its one for the moment we have to live with until we can get to a point to change it. They use 'men' in that sense in DAO a few times as well.

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

Amazing trailer. The ending with all the flash backs and glowing eyes raises many questions. Also, the IGN preview has some interesting details.

[Estel78]

Please send me a PM as soon as an HD download (at least 720p) will be available somewhere. 

Modifié par Estel78, 17 août 2010 - 04:40 .

[Kohaku]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Yeah...pretty much. It screams "THIS IS A MAN'S GAME, WIMMINS!".

NOW GET IN THE KIT-

Sorry.

I love you both. Can I kidnap you to my gingerbread house?

[TimelordPat]

Are we gonna be able to rip people in half in game? :0



Seriously, what was that? He open a fade portal or something?



Don't get me wrong, it was awesome. Just curious.

[DA Trap Star]

I saw a TEMPLAR Armor, and it looked bad ass

[TurtleTape]

Eudaemonium wrote...

yhibiki wrote...

There are men who struggle against destiny...
And there are men who embrace destiny...

Look, I get it. You want to show how BADASS your game is, and even a hint of a female Hawke would ruin that because we know that women can't ever be awesome. But given that it IS possible to play as a female Hawke, I find it just a TINY BIT offputting that the trailer uses language that implies Hawke must be a man's man and could never be a girl ever.

Seriously, it's not that hard to say "people" instead of "men."

I need to avoid all trailers because they are more likely to drive me away from DA2 than get me hyped up for it.

Yeah that 'default to male' is an annoying habit of, well... everything in life, not just video games. I assume they meant it in a 'universal human' sense, rather than a specifically male sense - not that it makes it any better, indeed the fact that 'men' can be used to refer to everyone is a rather sorry state of our culture, but its one for the moment we have to live with until we can get to a point to change it. They use 'men' in that sense in DAO a few times as well.

You realize that in more than a couple languages the all inclusive coed version of a word is the "masculine" version, right?  It's not that big of a deal, you don't see not-white people coming on here and complaining that they aren't showing other races for the main character.  Chill out, man and men can be neutral, all inclusive words, that's how it is.  Being politically correct has to stop at some point.

On a related note: This was great, so excited and amped up for this, the release can't come soon enough.

[Dave of Canada]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

I love you both. Can I kidnap you to my gingerbread house?

Doesn't sound like a trap. At all.

Can my friend Hawke and Horny Qunari come along?

[In Exile]

yhibiki wrote...


I didn't suggest they use "women." I suggested they use the gender netural "people." I would also like to point out that the world of Dragon Age is a mythical world made up by game designers.

I agree, but I think "those" is a better choice. People is a very awkward word. IMO at least.

Ergo, it is not real. Ergo, its history is only that what its creators decide it is. Although in midieval Europe women were never (rarely?) on the battle front, it's been shown in DAO that it's perfectly acceptable for women to be warriors and (supposedly) there is no bias against women fighting. Thus, I don't see why Flemeth, who seems to look down on men anyway, narrates about a destiny that only a MAN can have.

Well, obviously because Hawke in the trailer is a man, and so is the king. The whole scene is supposed to be evocative of cowering and fear, with the qunari executing the king, whereas you see Hawke climbing to fight th qunari.

Gender neutral language would have been a better choice, but I think you're overextending the implication.

[nhsk]

Please stop assuming that we will play a warrior/rogue/mage hybrid - It's clearly just to show off the different classes in one person, "morphing" them into the same trailer. In game we will be warrior, rogue OR mage not all in one, it's not a kinder-egg.

[Eudaemonium]

Quinnzel wrote...




Definately seems like a GoA Harvester/flesh golem.

See, this scene fuzzed-out on my computer so I didn't get a good look, but yeah - this is almost certainly a Harvester, and considering they were the creepiest enemy DAO has had to date, for me that's a good thing. Also it was really obvious from GOA's ending that we'd be seeing more of these little blighters. It was too blatant to even be called foreshadowing, more like fore-high-powered-beams-to-the-eyes.

[BallaZs]

Epic Trailer. It was just amazing.

I'm just getting more and moer excited about DA2. Unfortunately, we have to wait 7 months :'(

[Daryn Mercio]

When I saw Hawke draw his sword and the Qunari look like "Ah sh*t..." that was the most satisfying part for me. Until Hawke Ripped his arms off! AWESOME!