Shiro_the_Gambler wrote...
Still having trouble coming to terms with this. I guess it just another reason to have low expectations even if it is Bioware. Aveline is going to be a Sten clone with a dash of Samara thrown in. Fenris is Morrigan with some Sten flavoring. Merrill is Alistair crossed with Leilana. Anders is probably going to be Wynne with a splash of Leilana. Varric, no doubt, is going to be a rehash of Bodahn with Zevran. Isabella is kind of tough, oh wait, no she isn't; easily Zevran with a dash of Morrigan.
Aveline isn't as wise or as old as Samara, nor does she have a different cultural background. Fenris is NOT Morrigan ffs, he is "stoic", as his writer has said, and has been compared to Valen a bit. He has a dry, deadpan sense of humor that some people mistake for seriousness. Merrill is a freaking blood mage--she's not going to be
all cutesiness regardless of her looks. Anders--WYNNE? WTF? No! Not in the least! Just because he's a spirit healer? Ridiculous nonsense. Wynne never had a spirit of vengeance, and Anders is as goofy as Alistair, albeit in a different way; there's a comparison I could understand.
Maybe it's good to lower your expectations after a blow like this, but that's going pretty far.
kylecouch wrote...
I find myself with not much else to say
on this thread anymore...I'm still excited to see Aveline of course but
now I'm too paranoid about wondering if she'll hook up with someone
else to think about the good things I look forward to. I seriously feel
like my GF just dumped me...I am honest to god in love with this
pixelated woman....and that seriously bothers me.
*hugs* Hey, there... it's okay. Believe it or not, there are real women who are pretty similar to Aveline--cops, detectives, soldiers, even SPCA workers... real-life guardians, tougher than the average girl and with a deep soul. I admire Aveline precisely because she reminds me of qualities I've seen in the real world. If I ever have a little girl, I've already basically decided to call her Aveline because that's the kind of female character I view as a good role model, from what I've seen so far. (Plus, it's a beautiful name in general.)
It may be that Aveline shares a lot of qualities with your ideal woman. Nothing wrong with that. As connected as you are to what you know of the character, you will be deeply drawn into the story. If you try to view the ache as a roleplaying tool, as a connection to your character, then that pain won't be quite as strong as it was before.
There's something beautiful about unrequited love despite how sad it is, and in the end it can lead to happiness one way or another. If you want to see Aveline happy, and you play the game with that in mind, then it can be really enriching.
I remember when Alistair dumped me and started up a relationship with alcoholism. I could've reloaded and tried for a different ending. But as much as it seared my heart, it made me feel like my little Brosca heroine was all the more badass for pushing aside her own pain to do what she knew was right. As much as it sucks to see your beloved walk away from you, even in a game, it can also be a very involving experience. How bittersweet to stab that archdemon with Loghain at my side--my love had become my foe, and my foe had become my man-at-arms. *suddenly feels like a dork* Anyway, it felt really cool despite how depressing it was in ways. It was a memorable playthrough.
Maelora wrote...
Sorry, but no. There will be a non-party-member same-gender LI. Kelly Chambers v2 if you like.
No Paramour achievement, not even a kiss.
But Bioware can tell us honestly that there's s/s in the game. You wait and see.
That "Sorry, but no" of yours is shaped like a boomerang. Why? Because as many people have yet to get through their heads, the DA team=/=the ME team. The ME series
never had a real lesbian or gay romance; they
always skirted the issue by choosing an alien in the first place, while the DA series never did. Half the romance options in DAO were available to homosexuals--not so with ME1.
GayGamer.net has written evidence of this. Mike Laidlaw said, verbatim,
"Not every follower is interested romantically in Hawke, though there are options for players of all genders and orientations." That's highly inclusive terminology--Mike is the very person who would be the most careful about his wordings as he is in front of the camera all the time, and he knows people will remember what he says.
And as David Gaider said about people who might be offended by S/S romances and don't want them included,
"So long as romances of any kind are optional and need to be actively pursued by the player in order to be experienced, they simply don't have a leg to stand on. Advocating that nobody should be able to have content you don't intend to personally use is largely pointless--outside of a vague notion that such efforts should go towards other things, instead. Personally, it's not a lot of effort to include them. The resources we can devote to a minority of players isn't great, but I imagine to those players it's quite worth it... and I would hope that some folks could be sensitive enough to be happy for those players, at the very least out of the selfish notion that they may one day end up in the minority of some content issue and receive the same consideration if nothing else."Have you
heard the ME team give such detailed and open responses? Realize that this may be Bioware, but it's another team with another philosophy. There will be similarities, there will be comparisons, but not everything is the same because these are two different groups of people and two different game series.
It does no harm to lower your expectations--but don't talk like you know these people. You don't, or you wouldn't think they'd retcon Isabela to be straight (or did you forget that DA, unlike ME, specifically chose a known bisexual character to star in their second game?) rather than just put forth the small amount of effort it takes to add a few gender checks and record a few extra lines.
But you're right, this thread is about Aveline. That settled, back to her and how awesome a character she is.
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And can anyone on this forum honestly say that they expected Mordin to sing??
