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[android654]

Ladydub wrote...

This sucks that the main tanking character in the game is an overgrown ugly woman. Battling with a shield against many opponents, taking a lot of hits and holding the line no matter what is man's job. Would like to see a dwarf or qunari tank much more! Aveline as a strongest and most resilient party member just doesnt sit right in my head...

That is amazing!!!!

Who knew you could hold a controller without opposeable thumbs? Not to mention running power through your cave for your system. Kudos to you sir.

Modifié par android654, 28 février 2011 - 02:45 .

[TheRevanchist]

See he's one of those guys who love to play big strong manly men and brag about their big strong manly character who rip hurlocks in half by the millions. Who finds the prospect of a woman actually able to kick ass a massive blow to his ego and ego of his big strong manly man who rips hurlocks in half by the millions.

[android654]

kylecouch wrote...

See he's one of those guys who love to play big strong manly men and brag about their big strong manly character who rip hurlocks in half by the millions. Who finds the prospect of a woman actually able to kick ass a massive blow to his ego and ego of his big strong manly man who rips hurlocks in half by the millions.

Your probably right, not to mention its a little soon to compare Aveline to Ogrhen or Sten, but it looks like they'd be on equal standing. I always have multiple characters for rpgs (ME1 &2, DA: O&A, Fable 2 &3) to experience different characters overcome th obstacles. Both of my femsheps could destroy just about any male sheppard I could concieve.

Also, living your masogyinstic fantasies through a game is a little troubling.

[TheRevanchist]

android654 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

See he's one of those guys who love to play big strong manly men and brag about their big strong manly character who rip hurlocks in half by the millions. Who finds the prospect of a woman actually able to kick ass a massive blow to his ego and ego of his big strong manly man who rips hurlocks in half by the millions.

Your probably right, not to mention its a little soon to compare Aveline to Ogrhen or Sten, but it looks like they'd be on equal standing. I always have multiple characters for rpgs (ME1 &2, DA: O&A, Fable 2 &3) to experience different characters overcome th obstacles. Both of my femsheps could destroy just about any male sheppard I could concieve.

Also, living your masogyinstic fantasies through a game is a little troubling.

 
As godly as my canon paragon Male Shepard is...I feel he wouldn't stand a chance in hell agaisnt my blood thirsty, amorus, racist, down right renegade to the bone female shepard who shaves her head because she feels hair is a hinderence to the mission. Although to be frank shes a very easy s*** so she would probably drool all over paragon shepard first.

[LadyBri]

android654 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

See he's one of those guys who love to play big strong manly men and brag about their big strong manly character who rip hurlocks in half by the millions. Who finds the prospect of a woman actually able to kick ass a massive blow to his ego and ego of his big strong manly man who rips hurlocks in half by the millions.

Your probably right, not to mention its a little soon to compare Aveline to Ogrhen or Sten, but it looks like they'd be on equal standing. I always have multiple characters for rpgs (ME1 &2, DA: O&A, Fable 2 &3) to experience different characters overcome th obstacles. Both of my femsheps could destroy just about any male sheppard I could concieve.

Also, living your masogyinstic fantasies through a game is a little troubling.

Agreed - I would also like to add that in DA:O, Alistair was always my tank of choice because as he gets stronger he becomes awesome.  However, the reason I am so impressed with Aveline is that she starts off being awesome...she totally rocked all my ogre fights, holding hate for everything and barely getting to 50% health where at that level Alistair would have been toast.  So yay for super strong and awesome female tanks - and a redhead to boot!

[Ladydub]

Haha I didn't mean to be rude, but a tank in my mind is the strongest and toughest, able to sustain amounts of damage, endure terrible pain and wounds while still standing! I dont think a female is suitable for that... better a thick headed dwarf or athletic qunary, thats what I meant. I'm not saying that a female cant be a warrior, just not that type of warrior.

And yes, we had to take all strongest men from our tribe to collectively work to connect my dark cave to a power source which appears to be a wheel with running hamsters.

[Ladydub]

kylecouch wrote...

See he's one of those guys who love to play big strong manly men and brag about their big strong manly character who rip hurlocks in half by the millions. Who finds the prospect of a woman actually able to kick ass a massive blow to his ego and ego of his big strong manly man who rips hurlocks in half by the millions.

As a matter of fact I used only female characters while playing 3 DA:O walkthroughs. Melee rogue, archer and a mage. So you missed here

[TheRevanchist]

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

[Ladydub]

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

[Berkilak]

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Spartan women trained and were bred for war just as men were to defend the homeland. Viking marauders feared attacking Celtic settlements due to the warrior-women there. 

Also, the concept of trying to argue for a "tank" in a real life setting is flawed - one hit, you're dead.

[falconlord5]

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Queen Boudicca of the Iceni, Joan of Arc, the 600 women who served in the American Civil War disguised as men, and my personal favourite, the women's army of the Fon of Dahomey.

Need I go on?

[Ladydub]

Berkilak wrote...

Spartan women trained and were bred for war just as men were to defend the homeland. Viking marauders feared attacking Celtic settlements due to the warrior-women there. 

Also, the concept of trying to argue for a "tank" in a real life setting is flawed - one hit, you're dead.

Spartan women were bred to be mothers. Also singing, dancing and arts. They used to train running, but they were NOT trained combat, only spartan men were tought to fight. Get ur facts straight. There were celtic women warriors but I doubt vikings feared attacking them. Actually if a village men were absent, marauders would use that to their advantage, because war wasnt a women's craft.

U're right about real life tho.

[Ladydub]

falconlord5 wrote...

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Queen Boudicca of the Iceni, Joan of Arc, the 600 women who served in the American Civil War disguised as men, and my personal favourite, the women's army of the Fon of Dahomey.

Need I go on?

No you have no need to quote wiki further, I knew that long before. Joan of Arc being the most famous I agree, but she was a priestess, maybe lead some battles, but she was hardly a resilient warrior. And all her feats were obviously and exaggeration since she is a saint.

[falconlord5]

Ladydub wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...



Queen Boudicca of the Iceni, Joan of Arc, the 600 women who served in the American Civil War disguised as men, and my personal favourite, the women's army of the Fon of Dahomey.

Need I go on?

No you have no need to quote wiki further, I knew that long before. Joan of Arc being the most famous I agree, but she was a priestess, maybe lead some battles, but she was hardly a resilient warrior. And all her feats were obviously and exaggeration since she is a saint.

You think I was quoting Wikipedia? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA! Oh, you amuse me.

Also, check your facts. Joan was a frontline commander, in the days when your ability to command was directly tied to ability to butcher others on the battlefield.

And you ignore Boudicca, who personally slaughtered Roman legionnairres, the women who served in the American Civil War, and the full, serving army of women of the Fon of Dahomey.

Bottom line: Women are more than capable of serving as warriors. Anyone who thinks differently, is in for a very rude surprise.

Modifié par falconlord5, 28 février 2011 - 04:14 .

[Ladydub]

Boudicca led and uprising, she inspired people, and that she slaughtered legionnaries is a legend and movie fiction. And Joan of Arc is an exaggeration, I'll remind you. Maybe you will write about Xena or smth?

But I didnt know about this army of women of the Fon of dahomey... Seems like there have been an army of women after all...thats really interesting.

And I never said that women cant be warriors. I wont repeat myself, u can read one of my posts above, where I explain my point of view about a woman being the strongest and toughest.

Modifié par Ladydub, 28 février 2011 - 04:28 .

[madsabroo]

Ladydub wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Queen Boudicca of the Iceni, Joan of Arc, the 600 women who served in the American Civil War disguised as men, and my personal favourite, the women's army of the Fon of Dahomey.

Need I go on?

No you have no need to quote wiki further, I knew that long before. Joan of Arc being the most famous I agree, but she was a priestess, maybe lead some battles, but she was hardly a resilient warrior. And all her feats were obviously and exaggeration since she is a saint.

Let me introduce you to this place... It's called Israel.

Libya's leader has an elite bodyguard squad comprised of only women.  I dare you to look at a picture of them and not wet your pants in fear.

[John Epler]

Sexism is not something we tolerate in these forums. At all.

[TheRevanchist]

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Can't the video but the lady fron Conan the Barbarian. Theres pleanty of woman who kick serious ass.

[android654]

Berkilak wrote...

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Spartan women trained and were bred for war just as men were to defend the homeland. Viking marauders feared attacking Celtic settlements due to the warrior-women there. 

Also, the concept of trying to argue for a "tank" in a real life setting is flawed - one hit, you're dead.

Wives of Samurai were also trained in the same capacity. In the event their husbands failed, they were obliged to serve the shogun until their son(s) were of age to take thier father's place.

[android654]

madsabroo wrote...

Ladydub wrote...

falconlord5 wrote...

Ladydub wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

For I know your making that statistic up to prove me wrong. Again the "It's a mans job" thing is what is rude...clearly the woman has the ability and physical traits needed to be that type of warrior.

Oh really? And have you seen a lot of female warriors? If you started talking about ability and physical traits, then can you tell me if there was an army consisted of women somewhere in history? Any famous woman-warrior with formiddable costitution and strength? Oh there is a legend about Amazons, and even those primarily used bows or spears. Woman just can't be as tough or strong as a seasoned male warrior, it's just against the nature. I'm sorry if you get beaten a lot by girls, but that seems the case haha.

Queen Boudicca of the Iceni, Joan of Arc, the 600 women who served in the American Civil War disguised as men, and my personal favourite, the women's army of the Fon of Dahomey.

Need I go on?

No you have no need to quote wiki further, I knew that long before. Joan of Arc being the most famous I agree, but she was a priestess, maybe lead some battles, but she was hardly a resilient warrior. And all her feats were obviously and exaggeration since she is a saint.

Let me introduce you to this place... It's called Israel.

Libya's leader has an elite bodyguard squad comprised of only women.  I dare you to look at a picture of them and not wet your pants in fear.

Israeli soldiers are from another planet. kind of like Spetsnaz, but Spetsnaz is defintely tougher.

And how could I nforget Red Sonja or Nariko as tanks. Nariko is essentially Kratos with hair.

[Inzhuna]

I hope John's post means that he banned the guy. Seriously, my fellow Aveline fans, don't respond to the troll. Let's learn from Varric's thread, they learnt to handle the trolls realy well. Ignoring is the best tactic in this situation.

[Kritanakom]

Either way lets drop the topic or at least stop quoting him. I'd rather this thread not get locked! <

[falconlord5]

Ladydub wrote...

Boudicca led and uprising, she inspired people, and that she slaughtered legionnaries is a legend and movie fiction. And Joan of Arc is an exaggeration, I'll remind you. Maybe you will write about Xena or smth?

But I didnt know about this army of women of the Fon of dahomey... Seems like there have been an army of women after all...thats really interesting.

And I never said that women cant be warriors. I wont repeat myself, u can read one of my posts above, where I explain my point of view about a woman being the strongest and toughest.

Nope. Boudicca was a warrior queen in a society where you'd lose your position as a noble if you couldn't kill. And, no, Joan isn't an exageration. Maybe that movie with Milla Jovovich, but I never saw that one.

I'm talking about two women, who lead very, very violent men on very violent crusades. Both in times when political generals had a habit of 'disappearing' once their men found out that they couldn't lead worth ****.

I'll also leave you with an Irish law from 627, banning women from being soldiers. That rather implies that before than, there were women soldiers, doesn't it? After all, why create a law that addresses nothing?

[JediHealerCosmin]

Kritanakom wrote...

Either way lets drop the topic or at least stop quoting him. I'd rather this thread not get locked! <

Agreed, so let's please stay on topic people. Mr. Epler is more than patient with us so let's not disappoint him.

Now, in the good spirit of keeping things normal, I'm sure most of you are aware with the recent spoilers going around the forums. Yes... I have no willpower whatsoever so I looked. Sue me  
There wasn't really anything regarding Aveline herself other than a very small thing:






***Minor Spoiler***




There is a quest entitled "Champions and Captains" where you are asked to "Catch up with Aveline at the Barracks" <3

[Kritanakom]

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

***Minor Spoiler***









There is a quest entitled "Champions and Captains" where you are asked to "Catch up with Aveline at the Barracks" <3

And since Hawke is the Champion, this implies that Aveline becomes Captain! But of what? The Kirkwal Guard? The Blackstone Irregulars? Isabella's ship?!!

The possibilities are endless, though my Kirkwall would certainly feel safer knowing Aveline is leading the Guards...