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Aveline Female Warrior: the Appreciation Thread!


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In the shadows he waited, silent and unseen his sunken eyes watching every swing of the blade and his keen ears listening for every grunt of exertion, it was his task to watch and wait but of late something other than faultless service had driven him to watch her, something he feared had no place in the Qun.

Twice he had considered asking to be relieved of this onerous duty and twice his courage had failed, what excuse could he give to the Arishok that would not be lie or lechery revealed. No the Qun had placed a temptation in his path and he must prove himself the equal of it or lose himself to the way of the tal'vashoth forever.

"Anaan esaam Qun", he murmured hands twisting into huge fists and his young horned brow furrowing in concentration. He would not damn himself to that, not now, not ever.

A nearby sound whispered from the darkness and a raider more cunning than his brethren emerged from the shadows to level a crossbow at the captain of the guards undefended back and hiss, "With compliments from Castillon Aveline".

"Aveline". The name rumbled forth from the darkness and the raider found himself looking up into burning violet eyes that studied him for a brief moment before returning to the red haired rose who was captain of the kirks guard. "No such a woman will not die by a thiefs hand".

The raider felt the brief urge to argue this point with the qunari but suddenly realised that his body had not turned in tandem with his head and that the click he had heard scant moments before was not in fact the crossbow but his spine, his last words as the qunari dropped his limp bodies would have shrivelled the ears of a fishwife but he was in no position to breathe let alone speak.

Later a distraught Aveline would kneel by the thugs side and study the huge bruises that marked his broken neck and the loaded crossbow that lay nearby her brow furrowed in irritation, had Hawke hired some thug to watch her back while on patrol or was this some vigilante stalking low town. By the Maker she would know the answer and punish the varlet whether he had saved her life or not, the law in the kirk was hers to uphold and no one else's.

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Another amazing short story. Plase, do keep them coming :)

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Cheers Otaku, inspired by that vid you posted the other day.

@Kyle, feel free.

Modifié par blothulfur, 03 mars 2011 - 11:51 .


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Yea I figured as much. But I gotta say that was a fantastic job, deff wasn't expecting someone to take that particular approach to an Aveline story. I wish I could make such progress on my fan-fiction, sadly however I cannot.

Actually...with your permission Bloth...I think I can use that idea to further my story.

Modifié par kylecouch, 03 mars 2011 - 12:29 .


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blothulfur wrote...

Cheers Otaku, inspired by that vid you posted the other day.

Yay! :wizard:

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I'd rather be hurt, disappointed and let down by what surprised me in a story, than simply always getting what I wanted so never having any "guessing" or hope or "wanting" as it was put...

It is also one reason I am avoiding, as much as possible, the threads on here right now. I simply do not want to know.

And, on the bright side, I am getting a lot of reading done. I have many hopes for this game, but much fewer expectations. I think that bodes well for the entertainment factor. *fingers crossed*

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First off, awesome story blothulfur.

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

Aveline's fans have nothing to apologize for.


I agree. And like Bender says, we’re all jerks. Probably me especially. In my defense, it’s my job to approach the player as a character, and good stories aren’t about giving characters what they appear to want, good stories emerge when you hurt good characters in interesting ways. It certainly wasn’t my intent to insult anyone, especially not for wanting to connect emotionally with a character. Of course I want people to have an emotional reaction, what writer wouldn’t?

My frustration is with labels and expectations generated by the process, because I think that changes the experience more than anything I do or don’t write. Did you guys know there were romances in BG1? People were absolutely certain of this. There weren’t, not a “romance” character in the lot, not with the PC and not between NPCs. It was downright primitive, but because there also weren’t any “non-romance” labels, people made connections anyway, because nothing said it wasn’t possible, and nobody assumed that the interaction would be less deep because of it. They “wanted” and the game was better for it, even if there was no “having.”

There’re a lot of posts on the forum right now arguing about labels and what players were expecting. Romance, Sequel, Hours of play, RPG. If a player comes at any aspect of the game thinking “it can’t be good because it’s not X,” well, we might change their mind, but it’s hardly a level playing field. And I'm not suggesting that this is necessarily intentional, it's a natural reaction. I'm arguing the ideal, not the reality. That’s just what I believe dwelling on a label does, so I try to ignore them and encourage others to do so as well.

YMMV


We can argue ideals all day long but we would only be going in circles.  The reality, like you said, is different.  Labels and expectations are not inherently bad or good.  We all have our own expectations for this game; if we did not.  We would not be here having this discussion.  My expectations for Bioware games are simple; good gameplay, great characters with great arcs, and great plot.  This is based on the experiences I had  with the previous games.  Where that bar is though is different for everyone.  Does that make my expectations for Aveline unrealistic, yes and no.  Yes, because all I had to go on was her basic concept and my own mind seeing that as an awesome character.  No, because (in my experience) Bioware has yet to make a truly two-dimensional and uninteresting character.

Labels are viewed similarly.  Labels are generally used asa quick reference to help describe something.  How a label is presented is more important, in my opinion.  Call a person a thief and I will ask how is that person a thief.  Label a character in a video game a romance option and I will ask how is it presented.  Morrigan and Jack are two of my favorite characters and yes I did know both were romancable and their concepts, but I did not know how they would be presented.  This is entirely my point of view though. 

I will say I was a bit surprised by my own reactions.  Those were unrealistic.

I will readily admit to being a jerk.  That goes without saying.

EDIT:  I take way too long to compose posts sometimes.  B)

Modifié par Shiro_the_Gambler, 03 mars 2011 - 01:57 .


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It would have been fun to see how a romance with Aveline would play out but it doesn't in any way make me see the game differently. I'm still as hyped for it now as I was last fall. DA:O had Alistair, Zevran and Leliana that I loved to romance, most often it was Alistair =) ME has Kaidan and Liara so I'm completely sure that DA2 will have a new romance that I will love. Just don't know who yet. And yes, you are probably right that the game is different when you don't use labels and know too much in advance.

My husband bought DA:O and I knew nothing of it in advance. Didn't even know that Alistair was a possible romance because I didn't know that there was such a thing in the game. My only other bioware game prior to this is Baldurs Gate years ago. I guess that's one of the reasons why I really lived into the game, I didn't compare them to other persons in different bioware games because I didn't know any. I simply enjoyed talking to them for who they where. Personally I like talking about the games I love on the forum because I have so few friends in RL that are hooked on bioware ( I'm working on it ) but I know that it might make it feel different when playing it. In ME I didn't know about Virmire prior to playing it, had picked up that it was a special place but not why. It was awful to leave Ashly that first time. So jupp, I do see that not knowing to much changes the experience.

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blothulfur wrote...

In the shadows he waited, silent and unseen his sunken eyes watching every swing of the blade and his keen ears listening for every grunt of exertion, it was his task to watch and wait but of late something other than faultless service had driven him to watch her, something he feared had no place in the Qun.

Twice he had considered asking to be relieved of this onerous duty and twice his courage had failed, what excuse could he give to the Arishok that would not be lie or lechery revealed. No the Qun had placed a temptation in his path and he must prove himself the equal of it or lose himself to the way of the tal'vashoth forever.

"Anaan esaam Qun", he murmured hands twisting into huge fists and his young horned brow furrowing in concentration. He would not damn himself to that, not now, not ever.

A nearby sound whispered from the darkness and a raider more cunning than his brethren emerged from the shadows to level a crossbow at the captain of the guards undefended back and hiss, "With compliments from Castillon Aveline".

"Aveline". The name rumbled forth from the darkness and the raider found himself looking up into burning violet eyes that studied him for a brief moment before returning to the red haired rose who was captain of the kirks guard. "No such a woman will not die by a thiefs hand".

The raider felt the brief urge to argue this point with the qunari but suddenly realised that his body had not turned in tandem with his head and that the click he had heard scant moments before was not in fact the crossbow but his spine, his last words as the qunari dropped his limp bodies would have shrivelled the ears of a fishwife but he was in no position to breathe let alone speak.

Later a distraught Aveline would kneel by the thugs side and study the huge bruises that marked his broken neck and the loaded crossbow that lay nearby her brow furrowed in irritation, had Hawke hired some thug to watch her back while on patrol or was this some vigilante stalking low town. By the Maker she would know the answer and punish the varlet whether he had saved her life or not, the law in the kirk was hers to uphold and no one else's.


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I am just amazed and left speechless at how awesome that short story was.

#3934
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This is gold! I see we need a fanfiction section...

I think I should apologize for belittling Isabela as a character and a romance option in my enthusiastic support of Aveline. I didn't think people would take offense at it!
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Even so, I don't think Aveline is any more overhyped than other characters. That is what you should expect from an Appreciation Thread, and I don't see any Aveline fans going to other Fanthreads to insult others...

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Absolutly love Aveline. I think having a female tank is good for Dragon Age 2. Hope we have her until the end.

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Kritanakom wrote...

This is gold! I see we need a fanfiction section...

I think I should apologize for belittling Isabela as a character and a romance option in my enthusiastic support of Aveline. I didn't think people would take offense at it!
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Even so, I don't think Aveline is any more overhyped than other characters. That is what you should expect from an Appreciation Thread, and I don't see any Aveline fans going to other Fanthreads to insult others...


Indeed...we do need a fan-fiction section on the main page. I also noticed not all the artwork is on the page as a friendly observation lol.

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Ah, need this thread right now. So tired of the haters that are dismissing her as a character because she's not 100% estrogen with cleavage (that was not a slight against Isabela, because I like her too).

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Riona45 wrote...

For what it's worth, I'm optimistic about all of them, going by not only what we saw in the demo but also the short stories that were posted (I don't know much about Merrill, but she seems cute).


I agree. I think all of the characters we've seen so far have been interesting and I've enjoyed the ones we've seen so far in the demo. I'm very curious to find out more about the characters we haven't seen yet.

Since this is the Aveline thread, does anyone think a friendship with Aveline would be better for an apostate Hawke than a rivalry? I've read that the rivalry relationship can change a character's perspective, and I'd imagine being an apostate or going up against the Chantry might cause problems down the line since she was married to a templar.

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Matt 2108 wrote...

Ah, need this thread right now. So tired of the haters that are dismissing her as a character because she's not 100% estrogen with cleavage (that was not a slight against Isabela, because I like her too).


Yea it's kinda depressing...it all boils down to that TVtrope "No man wants an Amazon"....which is total BS but thats the majority mindset of the world it seems.

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Matt 2108 wrote...

Ah, need this thread right now. So tired of the haters that are dismissing her as a character because she's not 100% estrogen with cleavage (that was not a slight against Isabela, because I like her too).


I agree with you. I have never had a problem with her looks or any of the cast for that matter.

In fact, I fell in love with Aveline the moment she sat on a freaking darkspawn...and punched it to death. How BADASS is THAT!? Siiiiigh...love at first blight! :wub:

She will be my best friend/right-hand woman/battle partner for pretty much all play-throughs.

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undead_panda88 wrote...

In fact, I fell in love with Aveline the moment she sat on a freaking darkspawn...and punched it to death. How BADASS is THAT!? Siiiiigh...love at first blight! :wub:


Thats where I got my girl crush on her! My Lady Hawke will admire her. <3

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If loving that part is wrong...screw being right.

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kylecouch wrote...

If loving that part is wrong...screw being right.


Good sir...I heartily agree!

Time for me to play the demo for the umpteenth time and marvel at Aveline's strength and awesomeness! ;)

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Wow...after playing the demo and knowing all this cool stuff about DA2...I got back on Origins to try and finish these import files before Tuesday...and to my surprise, I find it hard to play this anymore...I have to force myself through this game when I didnt have to not two weeks ago.

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If what I heard is true, then I now understand Lukas' words. And I hate him for not giving me what I wanted but love him for this super plot twist (sometimes I think I must be a masochist).
Btw... I used the console to lvl up Aveline and almost filled up her skill tree... 'twas nothing but amazing :D

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"If what you heard is true"? what does that means? O_o

Modifié par kylecouch, 05 mars 2011 - 02:28 .


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Updated the main page a bit... I'm considering moving the "history of this thread" section to the bottom so that people can better enjoy the new fanart and screenshots!

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kylecouch wrote...

"If what you heard is true"? what does that means? O_o

PM'd you. We were told not to spoil other threads so can't say it in here.

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otaku4ever wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

"If what you heard is true"? what does that means? O_o

PM'd you. We were told not to spoil other threads so can't say it in here.


Finally an opportunity for WILD MASS GUESSING!!!

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I think you still missed a few pics Krit lol.